[Wikidata-l] OWL based ontologies as basis for Wikidata item interactions and property proposal

2015-04-03 Thread Sebastian Burgstaller
Hello all, Wikidata consists of millions of single data items, which is great. In order to facilitate modeling the interactions between the single items, we hereby suggest using OWL based ontologies ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Ontology_Language). We think that using ontologies brings

Re: [Wikidata-l] OWL based ontologies as basis for Wikidata item interactions and property proposal

2015-04-03 Thread Jane Darnell
Interesting approach, and one I would support. I have been against forcing Wikidata into any other jacket than one of its own knitting, but this approach makes OWL look like any other external database that may or may not come with properties worth integrating into Wikidata's jacket On Fri, Apr

Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data

2015-04-03 Thread Emw
Yes. I could see a simple Statements vs. External identifiers distinction being useful that's also reflected in the data model so it's easier to treat these property groups in a distinct manner. I support grouping statements about external identifiers together and distinguishing them from

Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data

2015-04-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you look at Wikidata itself, it is very much a jungle of unsorted data. This has been recognised and a different layout of the information is in the planning. I am glad with your complaint because it shows that we are maturing.. We have so much of a mess that it is largely

Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data

2015-04-03 Thread Thad Guidry
Re-reading... Erik, I think you mean that the display itself for instance on this page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42 would be more useful if all Identifiers were pushed down to the bottom half or different section, for instance, and keeping descriptor properties on the upper half ? (instead

Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data

2015-04-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Thad Guidry thadgui...@gmail.com wrote: I think you mean that the display itself for instance on this page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42 would be more useful if all Identifiers were pushed down to the bottom half or different section, for instance, and

Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data

2015-04-03 Thread Thad Guidry
Why do you have to get lost in them ? Most already have the phrase ID or Identifier in their naming convention. So perhaps a better approach would be to standardize the naming convention used for External Identifiers and make it a best practice and golden rule during property creation and