Re: [Wikidata-l] discussion on English Wikipedia about getting rid of citation templates...

2014-03-17 Thread Sven Manguard
and the development team. Much like every Wikipedia article exists because someone decided that the subject matter was important enough to warrant them writing article on it, every feature (and piece of information) on Wikidata is there because someone decided that it was important enough to add. Sven

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #94

2014-01-25 Thread Sven Manguard
Why? I don't see a benefit to that. Sven On Jan 25, 2014 10:38 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Lydia, These updates are a lot like a blog. Can it be a real blog? WordPress should be fairly easy to set up :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי

Re: [Wikidata-l] New stuff! (ordering, ranks and a table of content)

2013-12-11 Thread Sven Manguard
I proposed an up arrow, a square diamond, and a down arrow, all from the same Unicode set, in a mockup I sent to Lydia. I still think that those are a better idea, and not just because it was my idea. Sven On Dec 11, 2013 10:49 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11

Re: [Wikidata-l] Embedding voice samples in Wikidata

2013-11-15 Thread Sven Manguard
in the previous email, as they appear to be unfounded. Apologies again, Sven On Nov 15, 2013 5:17 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 15 November 2013 07:54, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com wrote: This is certainly an interesting idea, but I'm not sure it has a place

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-08 Thread Sven Manguard
of any other solution. Sven On Nov 8, 2013 12:49 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the problem isn't that you can only have one link from a wikisource work from a wikidata item. We have separate wikidata items for each edition of a work (because these have different

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposed change to the inclusion synthax

2013-10-20 Thread Sven Manguard
or annual GDP or population, well those change often. Part of the utility of Wikidata is that on smaller projects once you set everything up you don't need a continuous stream of edits. Sven On Oct 20, 2013 3:06 PM, Vito vituzzu.w...@gmail.com wrote: Il 20/10/2013 20:30, David Cuenca ha scritto

Re: [Wikidata-l] Countries ranked

2013-10-04 Thread Sven Manguard
in seeing the top 10 once we've imported all the coords we can. Sven On Oct 4, 2013 5:30 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote: As many folks enjoy country rankings, I have generated a list of countries (Property:P17) ranked by number of coordinates (P625) in Wikidata. Note this data is from

[Wikidata-l] Oversight nomination

2013-09-19 Thread Sven Manguard
This is a notice to inform the community that I have nominated myself for Oversight on Wikidata. The request can be found at [1]. Yours, Sven Manguard [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Oversight#Sven_Manguard_2

Re: [Wikidata-l] Oversight nomination

2013-09-16 Thread Sven Manguard
;p is a winking smiley face. I don't think anyone thought he was being serious. S On Sep 16, 2013 10:00 AM, Leon Liesener leon.liese...@wikipedia.de wrote: No, that's just the compliance of the global Oversight policy ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oversight_policy#Access — The candidates

Re: [Wikidata-l] Automatic summaries?

2013-09-07 Thread Sven Manguard
This has the potential to work, but we need to be careful that the descriptions don't only partially represent their subjects. This is especially difficult with humans, as they are often known for several things, and occasionally (but in a statistically significant number, I would think), known

Re: [Wikidata-l] Automatic summaries?

2013-09-07 Thread Sven Manguard
:44 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: All valid points, Sven. I would just like to say that * this is not intended as a replacement or auto-fill for descriptions; it is to be shown if the manual description is blank (at least, that was my angle) * unusual items, like your

Re: [Wikidata-l] Oversight nomination

2013-09-01 Thread Sven Manguard
Are there any publicly available statistics about the number of Oversight requests [successful and not] tjat jave happened on Wikidata thus far? S On Sep 1, 2013 11:53 PM, Adrian Raddatz ajradd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just a heads-up that I've nominated myself for oversight rights at

Re: [Wikidata-l] Weekly Summary #70

2013-08-09 Thread Sven Manguard
It would appear that there is more negative feedback than positive on the logo change... On Aug 9, 2013 10:18 AM, adam.shorl...@wikimedia.de adam.shorl...@wikimedia.de wrote: Wikimania Continues! (I hope you like our current Hong Kong logo!) Make sure you come and say hi to use if you are

Re: [Wikidata-l] A solution with finality is needed for P107 - maintype (GND)

2013-07-01 Thread Sven Manguard
call it a “concept”.) Going much further than this you’ll run into Borges encyclopedia style risks, but aren’t the categories named in GND upwards of 80% of the topics? Can you run a report on this? *From:* Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:19 PM

[Wikidata-l] A solution with finality is needed for P107 - main type (GND)

2013-06-30 Thread Sven Manguard
. Yours, Sven ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikidata-tech] WikiVOYAGE deployment plan

2013-06-28 Thread Sven Manguard
Admittedly I have been crazy busy with things unrelated to Wikimedia projects, so I haven't followed this discussion, but I'd like to ask for a clarification on Wikivoyage interwiki links. If they're going to be on the same item page as the Wikipedia interwiki links, is there going to be a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Rate of new changes in WikiData

2013-06-23 Thread Sven Manguard
There are two answers that question; are you looking for the edit rate for edits done manually only, or are you looking for the edit rate for both edits done manually and edits done by scripts and automated programs? S On Jun 23, 2013 9:48 PM, Hady elsahar hadyelsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Sven Manguard
Did you mean to say We do *not* need another Wikidata? Otherwise I am confused by your comment. On Jun 21, 2013 12:08 PM, Jan Dudík jan.du...@gmail.com wrote: Ww do need another wikidata, only separate namespace for items (words) and some separate properties JAnD 2013/6/21 Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikidata-l] Geoccordinates are live

2013-06-12 Thread Sven Manguard
, over an arcminute away. Therefore I think that we should coordinates for locations in Germany from dewiki, locations in Spain from eswiki, locations in the Netherlands from nlwiki, etc. Sven On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/6/12 Kolossos tim.al

Re: [Wikidata-l] data inclusion by lables is now available on Wikipedias and time datatype is getting closer

2013-05-22 Thread Sven
It might be a good idea to develop a bot that automatically converts {{#Property:Continent}} to {{#Property:P30}} and such. Best of both worlds: no need to memorize the numbers, no need to compromise stability. Sven On May 22, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de

Re: [Wikidata-l] Page history and properties

2013-04-03 Thread Sven
Once we get qualifiers (and can specify time periods using them) then we will have all past values included, with qualifiers. So Obama, but also Eisenhower, Lincoln, Taft, etc. Any word on when we get qualifiers, anyone? On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: A good

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata introductory talk - London, April 26

2013-03-27 Thread Sven
Seconded. Sven On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:27 PM, omshivaprak...@gmail.com omshivaprak...@gmail.com wrote: yes, a recording of this session would be good :) On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: I haven't been making a practice of recording workshops

Re: [Wikidata-l] P:238, 239, 240

2013-03-07 Thread Sven
No, airports and airlines use completely different ID systems. The confusion is that the code issuing body is the same for both. Sven On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Jérémie Roquet arkano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2013/3/7 Sven svenmangu...@gmail.com: I just created three properties but my

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata discussion on Hacker News

2013-03-05 Thread Sven
The comment up top by jpatokal is one of the best explanations of what Wikidata aims to accomplish that I've ever seen. I'd love to have a copy on-wiki to show people. I've copied it below. Sven begin quote First of all, having worked with wikis for about ten years, finally seeing this live

Re: [Wikidata-l] gene templates - wikidata, when?

2013-03-01 Thread Sven Manguard
the infrastructure on aren't officially locked in yet. Sven On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/1 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com There will soon be a mechanism where Wikipedia can display data from Wikidata directly, as it currently does

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: WMF Grant proposal: SOLRSearch

2013-02-12 Thread Sven
Can we please enact a no spam rule for this mailing list? On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:28 PM, jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: Hi, I have applied for an WMF grant entitled SOLRSearch described as: The SOLRSearch extension provides an opportunity to convert all Mediawiki installations into

[Wikidata-l] Complaint about the partial Phase II deployment

2013-02-08 Thread Sven Manguard
is good, but it's not what people were expecting and it's not particularly valuable on its own. I look forward to any response that the Wikidata staff or the community might have to this. Sven ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Disruption expected.

2013-01-20 Thread Sven Manguard
, especially on civil issues (which includes privacy issues, copyright, and most legal actions). Thank you again, Sven On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Guillaume Paumier guillom@gmail.comwrote: [Apologies for cross-posting; this concerns all Wikimedia projects] Posted today on the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-20 Thread Sven Manguard
of an article, tomorrow. Please don't sell out Wikidata's future utility for today's convenience. Sven [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Style_and_New_Style_dates On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: First off: our target use case

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Sven Manguard
units. Sven [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_units_of_measurement ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Sven Manguard
will be no different in that regard. Sven On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Martynas Jusevičius marty...@graphity.org wrote: Denny, you're sidestepping the main issue here -- every sensible architecture should build on as much previous standards as possible, and build own custom solution only if a *very

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Sven Manguard
later and build tools that allow there to be a bridge between whatever we create and whatever exists already. Sven On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a long thread. I was just about to chime in to agree with Sven's point about units when he

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Manguard
Thanks for this Denny. Time: Historians **need** to be able to have date ranges of some sort. They also need to express confidence in non-numerical terms. Take for example, the invention of gunpowder in China. Not only do several major historians have different ranges entirely (which would, of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Manguard
invented? Non-range answer: June 1988 Range answer: sometime between May 1988 and October 1989 Does that work? Sven M On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Thank you for your comments, Friedrich. It would be possible and very flexible

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Manguard
modules. If you could code, you could build them and offer them up for integration. All that being said, there are already websites that map out astronomical features in a geolocation-like way. It's worthwhile to consider supporting that type of geolocation data on Wikidata. Sven On Tue, Dec 18, 2012

Re: [Wikidata-l] Database rights

2012-12-12 Thread Sven
The WMF has lawyers. Why not ask Geoff for an official statement? Sven On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Harry Burt jarry1...@gmail.com wrote: (sorry, don't have the proper subject line to hand) Are proper lawyers being consulted about this (database rights)? The quantity of unofficial

Re: [Wikidata-l] Suggestions

2012-12-10 Thread Sven
I assume we're still talking abiut things to link into a Wikidata entry? I could see a place for official social media accounts, and even for the related Wikia site, but definitely not for fan sites. On Dec 10, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Nicholas Humfrey nicholas.humf...@bbc.co.uk wrote: On

Re: [Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage

2012-12-05 Thread Sven Manguard
of epic proportions. On a more positive note, it would also give me time to make sure that all of the project's help pages are cleaned up and that we have a nice centralized location that lists said pages where we can point the new people to. Thanks for the idea, Sven On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 PM

[Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Manguard
. :D Sven ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Manguard
I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we already knew that we *could*, the issue is whether or not we *should*. Sven On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata license (was Introduction and some questions on Wikidata)

2012-11-15 Thread Sven
Automatically copying over infoboxes is something I don't advise. Unlike current infoboxes, which are rarely sourced, every point of data on Wikidata should be DIRECTLY and INDIVIDUALLY sourced. We can use the same source 37 times, but each bit of information that would ordinarily have a field

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata license (was Introduction and some questions on Wikidata)

2012-11-15 Thread Sven Manguard
The argument above is about automatically copying over content from other projects. My point is that the license isn't the problem with it, but that there is a problem with it. Sven On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Gregor Hagedorn g.m.haged...@gmail.comwrote: On 15 November 2012 23:35, Sven

[Wikidata-l] Script that makes Wikidata so much easier

2012-10-31 Thread Sven Manguard
Hey there. Most of you will hopefully have already seen this, but there's a script out that makes importing interwiki so much easier. See http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#SlurpInterwiki_scriptfor details. Hope everyone is settling in as well as I am. Sven