Re: [Wikidata-l] discussion on English Wikipedia about getting rid of citation templates...

2014-03-17 Thread Sven Manguard
Obviously I cannot speak for the development team, but my observation has been that the development schedule for Wikidata is rather malleable. I can't be sure because I don't remember having ever seen a formal order of development/deployment priorities, but I believe that things have been bumped

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #94

2014-01-25 Thread Sven Manguard
Why? I don't see a benefit to that. Sven On Jan 25, 2014 10:38 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Lydia, These updates are a lot like a blog. Can it be a real blog? WordPress should be fairly easy to set up :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי

Re: [Wikidata-l] New stuff! (ordering, ranks and a table of content)

2013-12-11 Thread Sven Manguard
I proposed an up arrow, a square diamond, and a down arrow, all from the same Unicode set, in a mockup I sent to Lydia. I still think that those are a better idea, and not just because it was my idea. Sven On Dec 11, 2013 10:49 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Embedding voice samples in Wikidata

2013-11-15 Thread Sven Manguard
in the previous email, as they appear to be unfounded. Apologies again, Sven On Nov 15, 2013 5:17 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 15 November 2013 07:54, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com wrote: This is certainly an interesting idea, but I'm not sure it has a place

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-08 Thread Sven Manguard
You bring up a good point. Is there anyway to have the interwiki links that show up on the sidebar point to a page with a different q# ID then the should? If we can do that we can have every version of a given book all point to a disambiguation page that lists all of the versions. I can't think of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposed change to the inclusion synthax

2013-10-20 Thread Sven Manguard
Excuse me in advance, as this isn't an area I am well versed in, but: {{#property:P36}} doesn't have to change if the value changes, but an edit would have to be made to modify {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} if the value changed. Now capitals don't change, but if we have a value for Alexa rank

Re: [Wikidata-l] Countries ranked

2013-10-04 Thread Sven Manguard
This is cool, but do we have any statistics on the number of pages have coordinate locations versus the number of pages that should have coordinated locations? This statistic is more a reflection of where the bots have been running and where they haven't been run yet. I'd be very interested in

[Wikidata-l] Oversight nomination

2013-09-19 Thread Sven Manguard
This is a notice to inform the community that I have nominated myself for Oversight on Wikidata. The request can be found at [1]. Yours, Sven Manguard [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Oversight#Sven_Manguard_2

Re: [Wikidata-l] Oversight nomination

2013-09-16 Thread Sven Manguard
;p is a winking smiley face. I don't think anyone thought he was being serious. S On Sep 16, 2013 10:00 AM, Leon Liesener leon.liese...@wikipedia.de wrote: No, that's just the compliance of the global Oversight policy ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oversight_policy#Access — The candidates

Re: [Wikidata-l] Automatic summaries?

2013-09-07 Thread Sven Manguard
This has the potential to work, but we need to be careful that the descriptions don't only partially represent their subjects. This is especially difficult with humans, as they are often known for several things, and occasionally (but in a statistically significant number, I would think), known

Re: [Wikidata-l] Automatic summaries?

2013-09-07 Thread Sven Manguard
of Wikidata and the properties it offers The last one reminds me: is there a reason for notability property? In your example item, the Ft. Hood shootings could be added that way, and then also show up in the description (notable for Ft. Hood shooting). On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Sven

Re: [Wikidata-l] Oversight nomination

2013-09-01 Thread Sven Manguard
Are there any publicly available statistics about the number of Oversight requests [successful and not] tjat jave happened on Wikidata thus far? S On Sep 1, 2013 11:53 PM, Adrian Raddatz ajradd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just a heads-up that I've nominated myself for oversight rights at

Re: [Wikidata-l] Weekly Summary #70

2013-08-09 Thread Sven Manguard
It would appear that there is more negative feedback than positive on the logo change... On Aug 9, 2013 10:18 AM, adam.shorl...@wikimedia.de adam.shorl...@wikimedia.de wrote: Wikimania Continues! (I hope you like our current Hong Kong logo!) Make sure you come and say hi to use if you are

Re: [Wikidata-l] A solution with finality is needed for P107 - maintype (GND)

2013-07-01 Thread Sven Manguard
call it a “concept”.) Going much further than this you’ll run into Borges encyclopedia style risks, but aren’t the categories named in GND upwards of 80% of the topics? Can you run a report on this? *From:* Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:19 PM

[Wikidata-l] A solution with finality is needed for P107 - main type (GND)

2013-06-30 Thread Sven Manguard
I have just closed a second deletion discussion for Property:P107 - main type (GND). As with the first discussion, it is clear that there is a broad sense that main type (GND) is not an ideal solution, however as it stands now, a large enough portion of the community does not want to get rid of

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikidata-tech] WikiVOYAGE deployment plan

2013-06-28 Thread Sven Manguard
Admittedly I have been crazy busy with things unrelated to Wikimedia projects, so I haven't followed this discussion, but I'd like to ask for a clarification on Wikivoyage interwiki links. If they're going to be on the same item page as the Wikipedia interwiki links, is there going to be a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Rate of new changes in WikiData

2013-06-23 Thread Sven Manguard
There are two answers that question; are you looking for the edit rate for edits done manually only, or are you looking for the edit rate for both edits done manually and edits done by scripts and automated programs? S On Jun 23, 2013 9:48 PM, Hady elsahar hadyelsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Sven Manguard
Did you mean to say We do *not* need another Wikidata? Otherwise I am confused by your comment. On Jun 21, 2013 12:08 PM, Jan Dudík jan.du...@gmail.com wrote: Ww do need another wikidata, only separate namespace for items (words) and some separate properties JAnD 2013/6/21 Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikidata-l] Geoccordinates are live

2013-06-12 Thread Sven Manguard
I've been doing some manual importing, and have found that in the vast majority of cases, when different languages' Wikipedias have different coordinates for a location, the coordinates that are most accurate are the ones in the language that is spoken where the location is. For example, some of

Re: [Wikidata-l] gene templates - wikidata, when?

2013-03-01 Thread Sven Manguard
Sorry to be the contrarian, but I'm not sure we should be talking about pulling data from Wikidata into Wikipedia until the devs announce that they are close to deploying it. It makes no sense to build an infrastructure now if the assumptions about functionality and API that you're basing the

[Wikidata-l] Complaint about the partial Phase II deployment

2013-02-08 Thread Sven Manguard
Hello there. I have been an active and vocal supporter of Wikidata since almost the day it went live, and after giving Phase II a legitimate chance, I have to say that in my opinion the decision to deploy Phase II with only a small number of the expected features has been a massive mistake. Yes, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Disruption expected.

2013-01-20 Thread Sven Manguard
Thank you for this. I realize the absurdity of replying to all of these lists, but I feel that my question is important enough to warrant it. For most of the history of Wikipedia and the other projects, we have been bound by United States and Florida state laws, because of the location of the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-20 Thread Sven Manguard
I really, really hope that this isn't the mindset of the development team as a whole. If so, my confidence in the viability of Wikidata would take a major hit. Yes, collecting the information that goes into infoboxes is going to be important, and yes, centralizing that information so that it can

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Sven Manguard
I don't think we can sensibly support historical units with unknown conversions, because they cannot be compared directly to SI units. So, they couldn't be used to answer queries, can't be converted for display, etc - they arn't units in any sense the software can understand. This is a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Sven Manguard
My philosophy is this: We should do whatever works best for Wikidata and Wikidata's needs. If people want to reuse our content, and the choices we've made make existing tools unworkable, they can build new tools themselves. We should not be clinging to what's been done already if it gets in the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-19 Thread Sven Manguard
://pleiades.stoa.org/vocabularies You're not going to get it right the first time, so I would just start with a small core that you're reasonably confident in and iterate from there. Tom On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.comwrote: My philosophy is this: We should do

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Manguard
Thanks for this Denny. Time: Historians **need** to be able to have date ranges of some sort. They also need to express confidence in non-numerical terms. Take for example, the invention of gunpowder in China. Not only do several major historians have different ranges entirely (which would, of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Manguard
How about this: - Values default to a non-range value - You can click a checkbox that says range to turn the input into a range value instead - An entry can only be represented by either a non-range or a range number, not both This relieves our issue with query answering: Query: When was XXX

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data values

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Manguard
The great thing about MediaWiki is that we don't have to anticipate new features, we can build them in later when we discover that they're possible and that they're wanted. In fact, there's no requirement that the Wikidata developers are even the ones that do develop said hypothetical future

Re: [Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage

2012-12-05 Thread Sven Manguard
Assuming that the most recent rough timeline I've got is still accurate, Wikidata will have deployed Phase II of its features by, at the latest, early January. I'd prefer that we wait at least a week or two after that for the project to re-stabilize before we make the big announcement, as I do not

[Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Manguard
Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To those of you that are not American, happy Why can't I reach any of the the Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!. So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he mentioned that he

Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Manguard
I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we already knew that we *could*, the issue is whether or not we *should*. Sven On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata license (was Introduction and some questions on Wikidata)

2012-11-15 Thread Sven Manguard
The argument above is about automatically copying over content from other projects. My point is that the license isn't the problem with it, but that there is a problem with it. Sven On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Gregor Hagedorn g.m.haged...@gmail.comwrote: On 15 November 2012 23:35, Sven

[Wikidata-l] Script that makes Wikidata so much easier

2012-10-31 Thread Sven Manguard
Hey there. Most of you will hopefully have already seen this, but there's a script out that makes importing interwiki so much easier. See http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#SlurpInterwiki_scriptfor details. Hope everyone is settling in as well as I am. Sven