Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
Well, you would run into many of the same decisions we already face about how much to limit automated uploads of data if you wanted to turn it into a live programming platform. You can certainly already use DBpedia and Wikidata to get datasets for many cool demonstrations of functional programmi

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Could you also offer the same service for other wikipedias? Would be really useful. Thanks for the service. - Svavar Kjarrval On 08/07/13 23:05, swuensch wrote: > My bot started his task. All items with pages to disambiguation pages > and pages to none disambiguation pages will get reported to:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread David Cuenca
Wikidata seems like a good platform for functional computing, it "just" needs Lisp-like lists (which would be an expansion of queries/tree-searches) and processing capabilities. What you say it is also true, it would be ahead of the times, because high-level computing languages never expanded as mu

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread swuensch
My bot started his task. All items with pages to disambiguation pages and pages to none disambiguation pages will get reported to: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sk!dbot/disambiguation_page_conflict The nl community did a good job there are currently none (my bot scanned allready all articles

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
All positive change is gradual. In the meantime, for those of us with ample free time for coding, it'd be nice to have a place to check in code and unit tests that are organized roughly in the same way as Wikipedia. Maybe such a project already exists and I just haven't found it yet. > Date: M

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Yes, that is one of the reasons functional languages are getting popular: https://www.fpcomplete.com/blog/2012/04/the-downfall-of-imperative-programming With PHP and JavaScript being the most widespread (and still misused) languages we will not get there soon, however. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:57

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoiconicity From: hale.michael...@live.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:57:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode In the functional programming language family (thin

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
In the functional programming language family (think Lisp) there is no fundamental distinction between code and data. > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:47:46 +0300 > From: marty...@graphity.org > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikida

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Here's my approach to software code problems: we need less of it, not more. We need to remove domain logic from source code and move it into data, which can be managed and on which UI can be built. In that way we can build generic scalable software agents. That is the way to Semantic Web. Martynas

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
Just a quick add-on to Jane and Paul about the scope of data in Wikidata. I think it is inevitable that Wikidata will start holding excess data that isn't being used in Wikipedia. Take the climate boxes that are on many city pages that show the average high and low per month for the last 5 years

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
There are lots of code snippets scattered around the internet, but most of them can't be wired together in a simple flowchart manner. If you look at object libraries that are designed specifically for that purpose, like Modelica, you can do all sorts of neat engineering tasks like simulate the t

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Paul A. Houle
Here is my 2 cents. I have paid my dues writing CRUD apps for business. They all want the same thing, something that keeps track of entities and controls how the organization interacts with those entities. In one year, for instance, I worked on systems for an academic department and a lo

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-08 Thread Jane Darnell
I am all for a "dictionary of code snippets", but as with all dictionaries, you need a way to group them, either by alphabetical order or "birth date". It sounds like you have an idea how to group those code samples, so why don't you share it? I would love to build my own "pipeline" from a series o

Re: [Wikidata-l] Modeling identifier definitions

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Hale
Are you wanting to add a string property in Wikidata to store MathML equations and formulas?http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal As I side note, when I look here I get a bunch of script errors starting halfway down the page.http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_pro

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread Romaine Wiki
All disambiguation pages of the Dutch Wikipedia are in this category: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Doorverwijspagina Let me know when you have created such list. Romaine --- On Mon, 7/8/13, swuensch wrote: From: swuensch Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & requ

[Wikidata-l] Modeling identifier definitions

2013-07-08 Thread Moritz Schubotz
Hi, I have one question concerning wikidata: at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation#Time-dependent_equation we have the statement Ψ is the wave function I have developed a system that discovers the relation between Ψ and the page wave function Is there a way to model that in w

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Denny Vrandečić, 08/07/2013 13:16: I just wanted to say thank you! That's truly amazing work. As far as I can tell, more than 200 Million lines of wikitext have so far been removed from the Wikipedias. That's 200 Million lines that do not have to maintained anymore. (I have not run the actual a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I just wanted to say thank you! That's truly amazing work. As far as I can tell, more than 200 Million lines of wikitext have so far been removed from the Wikipedias. That's 200 Million lines that do not have to maintained anymore. (I have not run the actual analysis yet, I have been waiting for

[Wikidata-l] Deadline Extension - July 18th - Workshop on "NLP & DBpedia" at ISWC 2013

2013-07-08 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
We have received quite a few requests for an extended deadline. We understand that working with large amount of data such as DBpedia is difficult and time consuming. The deadline will therefore be extended until Thursday, July 18th, 23:59 Hawaii time. However, we would like to appeal to all auth

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread addshorewiki
For the bot removing interwiki links that are redirects etc my new code should be ready by this weekend (I hope) and this should give the lists I have a big clear out! :) Addshore On 8 Jul 2013 04:32, "Romaine Wiki" wrote: > Today we reached at nl-wiki the situation that + 64% of the > interwiki

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update nl-wiki & request for bot

2013-07-08 Thread swuensch
Hey my Bot lists disambiguation conflicts under https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sk!dbot/disambiguation_page_conflict This list is little bit old but I can start the task again and update it. I also could start from nl wiki to make sure that with on every disambiguation conflict page there is a n