Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-discussion] [Dbpedia-developers] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-11 Thread Tom Morris
Sebastian, Thanks very much for the explanation. It was a single missing word, "ontology," which led me astray. If the opening sentence had said "based on the DBpedia ontology," I probably would have figured it out. Your amplification of the underlying motivation helps me better understand what

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-11 Thread Tom Morris
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Joe Filceolaire wrote: > I suspect these are not wikidata aliases. They are probably labels in > other languages. > > While wikidata doesn't have a multilingual datatype it does allow you to > add labels (and aliases) in any language and these labels, if they are

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-11 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 But then just what is the current scope of the project? I, too, think that the scope of Wikidata is at least provide support for things that could be on Wikipedia. Perhaps the current scope of Wikidata then should not be "every demo tape ever produce

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-11 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:52 PM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < pfpschnei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I can understand that these large groups might have a "Not right now" > status, but that seems to be different from "never". What am I > misunderstanding? > > I'd say it's "never within the current scope

Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata

2015-03-11 Thread Sjoerd de Bruin
I'm ready for it! All existing humans on nlwiki have a gender now, so it's easy to review this batch. Bring it on. > Op 11 mrt. 2015, om 22:14 heeft Maarten Dammers het > volgende geschreven: > > Hi Amir, > > Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 9-3-2015 om 22:40: >> Result for English Wikipedia (6366 a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata

2015-03-11 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Amir, Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 9-3-2015 om 22:40: Result for English Wikipedia (6366 articles classified as human) Sounds like fun! Can you run it on the Dutch Wikipedia too? On https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclai

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-11 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm a bit confused as to why some of entries are in the "never" list. For example, there are published lists of musical artists (roughly defined as people (or groups?) who have made a commercial recording). This would seem to make then notable under

Re: [Wikidata-l] Empty references

2015-03-11 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Last week a change to ignore empty references in lists of references was made: https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/399 This means that no new empty references can be added, and that existing ones will no longer be visible in most places. The one exception I can think of are dumps,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-11 Thread James Heald
It's certainly an idea to keep track of what's in Wikidata, and what types of categories and infoboxes have or have not had information transferred. There are some queries to give top-level round numbers for the UK and Ireland at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_UK_and_Ire

Re: [Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-11 Thread Magnus Manske
I can offer https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/ This (or a future successor) could serve as the "list keeper" for, say, list of lighthouses, or graded buildings in the UK. One thing that IMHO would be required for this to work would be a (semi-)automatic sync of the "list keeper" with authorit

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-developers] [Dbpedia-discussion] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Houle
I think it is a very good idea to express facts in a "standard" vocabulary, so I am excited to see Wikidata available with DBpedia vocabulary -- this is a quick answer for people who like DBpedia to get better data. There is the minus that there will always been some loss in conversion between vo

Re: [Wikidata-l] Empty references

2015-03-11 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > The interesting question for me: How did they get in in the first > place? And how do we prevent that? Both edits are fairly recent and > from two different editors. This looks fishy to me. Ticket for investigating this is now at https://p

[Wikidata-l] Classes of things in Wikidata (Was: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses)

2015-03-11 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Andrew, This is a great idea! It would help data consumers to know what to expect and community members to know what to put in (or where help with imports would be appreciated). Moreover, the discussion about this list would be a great way to structure our work in general (have documented

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-11 Thread Joe Filceolaire
I suspect these are not wikidata aliases. They are probably labels in other languages. While wikidata doesn't have a multilingual datatype it does allow you to add labels (and aliases) in any language and these labels, if they are correct, are the appropriate thing to use to localise osm place nam

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Finn Årup Nielsen
On 03/11/2015 12:58 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 11.03.2015 um 12:39 schrieb Jo Walsh: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata#Importing_data *Copying data to Wikidata from OSM* (or even from other Wikimedia projects) *is not allowed* because Wikidata uses the public-domain style Creative Co

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Markus Bärlocher
Thanks Daniel for this clear statement: Facts ("this is a lighthouse") are not copyrightable. The data about lighthouses was imported from NOAA LoL, which is PD itself :-) Best regards, Markus ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 11.03.2015 um 12:39 schrieb Jo Walsh: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata#Importing_data > *Copying data to Wikidata from OSM* (or even from other Wikimedia projects) > *is > not allowed* because Wikidata uses the public-domain style Creative Commons > CC0 > license which does not co

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Jo Walsh
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata#Importing_data *Copying data to Wikidata from OSM* (or even from other Wikimedia projects) *is not allowed* because Wikidata uses the public-domain style Creative Commons CC0 license which does not contain any attribution or share-alike provisions. Conver

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread James Heald
Note that OSM is likely to be unusable for copyright reasons -- J. On 11/03/2015 11:20, Magnus Manske wrote: Started scraping Wikipedia lists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lighthouses_and_lightvessels Got to Canada: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12UaLKolLl5hbOFP9vztShQsiKkr

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Magnus Manske
Started scraping Wikipedia lists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lighthouses_and_lightvessels Got to Canada: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12UaLKolLl5hbOFP9vztShQsiKkr5AZo_TbNr-NV9W-U/edit?usp=sharing Continue this (someone help!), or start anew from another source? On Wed, Mar 1

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Markus Bärlocher
Sorry the tags was wrong... Right is: _in OpenSeaMap_ you can find 40'000 Lights by a query on: seamark:type=light_float seamark:type=light_vessel seamark:type=light_minor seamark:type=light_major seamark:type=light _in WP for Spain_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Liste_von_Leuchttürmen_in_Spa

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Markus Bärlocher
Hi, _in OpenSeaMap_ you can find 40'000 Lights by a query on: seamark:type=light_float seamark:type=light_vessel seamark:type=minor_light seamark:type=major_light seamark:type=light _in WP for Spain_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Liste_von_Leuchttürmen_in_Spanien _in WD for world_ 2135 lights

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Jo
Openstreetmap has many lighthouses on the Spanish Coast: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/87R You can change the bbox and investigate the other coast lines easily with that query. Jo 2015-03-11 10:37 GMT+01:00 Magnus Manske : > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM Markus Krötzsch < > mar...@semantic-

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > No, you are right: this is of course an issue in the completeness of our > data. If you zoom in to Europe, you can see that some countries have > costs full of lighthouses, while others seem to lack them al

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 11.03.2015 05:40, Tom Morris wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Markus Krötzsch mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>> wrote: For example, you can see that Portugal has a lot of lighthouses while Spain has almost none -- maybe we need to look at our data there ;-) Perhaps

[Wikidata-l] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-11 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
Dear all, TL;DR; We are working on an *experimental* Wikidata RDF export based on DBpedia and would like some feedback on our future directions. Disclaimer: this work is not related or affiliated with the official Wikidata RDF dumps. Our current approach is to use Wikidata like all other Wikiped

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-developers] [Dbpedia-discussion] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-11 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear Tom, let me try to answer this question in a more general way. In the future, we honestly consider to map all data on the web to the DBpedia ontology (extending it where it makes sense). We hope that this will enable you to query many data sets on the Web using the same queries. As a