Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So how do I indicate that up to a particular date Jakarta was called Batavia ? Muhammed Ali was called Cassius Clay ? There is no discussion about it. All there is an (potentially perceived) inability to use appropriate labels at will. Labels are not simple. Thanks, Gerard On 6 March

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When data is to be shown in the context of history, the appropriate label is to be shown, is to be found. It is as complex as what we do with statements. The point is very much that when you state that when labels are not intended to convey complex information, the intention is debatable. It

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
If you want to model everything precisely, you'll never get done. If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. -- William Blake Am 06.03.2014 17:21, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, When data is to be shown in the context of history, the

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Thomas Douillard
It's OK if we have a way to represent the information in another way. Reasonator plays kind of fine with this, it's enough to make him aware of the official name to treat it differently. The name to display is a contextful information, and anyway it needs special ways to treat the information and

[Wikidata-l] Wikibase for a private wiki

2014-03-06 Thread Luca Martinelli
Hi there, I'm setting up a private wiki and I'd like to add Wikibase. Does it work with Mediawiki 1.22? And where can I download the whole package? Since I know this is not the place for such a private discussion, if you want to advice me, please answer me in private, so that we don't disturb the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikibase for a private wiki

2014-03-06 Thread Bene*
Hi there, I'm setting up a private wiki and I'd like to add Wikibase. Does it work with Mediawiki 1.22? And where can I download the whole package? Since I know this is not the place for such a private discussion, if you want to advice me, please answer me in private, so that we don't

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Thomas Douillard
Hi Lydia, in languages such as OWL, a class of item can be defined by a predicate on the properties and values of the item. Will we be able to link a class Qitem to a Wikidata complex query in the corresponding namespace ? For example if we define a class Douglas Adams Novels whose instances are

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lydia, in languages such as OWL, a class of item can be defined by a predicate on the properties and values of the item. Will we be able to link a class Qitem to a Wikidata complex query in the corresponding

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread David Cuenca
I'm not saying that the results yielded by Category:Books by Jean-Paul Sartre or Category:Books by J.R.R. Tolkien are or should be the same as the result yielded by a corresponding Wikidata query, but the concepts they represent, they are the same. Ditto for lists. (As a further clarification, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What the RFC is about is actually quite simple. It states that the content of most of the lists and categories can be expressed as queries. So when an item is an instance of Wikimedia list article or Wikimedia category page it can be complemented by an is a list of property. For examples, [1]