[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-18 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Nellie, I support your call for centralised discussions on the brain storming page. I'll scan through the contributions on the WE list so far and copy the main points over. Let's do our best to encourage community discussion and development on this node. Cheers Wayne On Wed, 2009-02-18 at

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-18 Thread NELLIE DEUTSCH
Wayne, While I am all over the place and find the process of having discussions on skype, social networks, via emails, google groups, and f2f beneficial to my learning, I would like to encourage everyone to add their input to The brain storming page on Wikieducator.com

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Nellie, Good questions! The target population are all educators who are interested in working towards a sustainable OER ecosystem in achieving the vision of free educational resources in support of all national curricula -- a bold but meaningful task. With the evolution of WikiEducator, over

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread NELLIE DEUTSCH
Wayne, I have followed the discussions and suggestions on http://wikieducator.com/Main_Page and I am not clear on the target population. Who are we targeting? Another question I think we may need to consider is why we are having this discussion on google groups and not on WE? Thank you. Warm wishes

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 20:44 -0400, Stephen Downes wrote: > Get a .com domain and use it for fund-raising and sustainability > information. Redirect all .com 404s to the corresponding URL on > the .org site. Hi Stephen, Appreciate the advice --- fortunately we already own the .com domain. Good s

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Stephen Downes
Get a .com domain and use it for fund-raising and sustainability information. Redirect all .com 404s to the corresponding URL on the .org site. -- Stephen Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > Hi Valerie -- > > I understand your concerns, particularly with new comers stumbling > across the wikieducator.co

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 13:29 +1300, Jim Tittsler wrote: > Yes, I'm used to a .com domain being something different than the .org > domain. > > The site is configured to have a noticeably different "look" to reduce > any possible confusion. I think we should temporarily add a big banner on the la

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 13:20, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > For example, Moodle has http://moodle.org/ and http://moodle.com/ and > > Mozilla run http://www.mozilla.org/ and http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ for > their business side of things. Yes, I'm used to a .com domain being something differ

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Valerie -- I understand your concerns, particularly with new comers stumbling across the wikieducator.com domain. That said, its not unusual for open source projects to have a commercial domain. For example, Moodle has http://moodle.org/ and http://moodle.com/ and Mozilla run http://www.m

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread valerie
If I had inadvertently stumbled on wikieducator.com, I wouldn't be back. That's a big mixed message - there is a commercial entity lurking in the background, so this probably isn't the totally open organization that it is trying to promote. A "real" not-for-profit would have just done the automat

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:30 -0800, valerie wrote: > Consider acquiring and redirecting all .xxx that you can get your > hands on - the great domain name land grab. WikiEducator is a very > valuable domain and it should be protected at all costs. It should be > used for only for this one purpose in

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-17 Thread valerie
IMHO wikieducator.com should redirect to wikieducator.org forever. Consider acquiring and redirecting all .xxx that you can get your hands on - the great domain name land grab. WikiEducator is a very valuable domain and it should be protected at all costs. It should be used for only for this one

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Declan
I agree with Randy on this; if one has spent any time on WE it is immediately clear that the .com site is distinctly different. A bold disclaimer and a cross link to the .org site embedded in the fabric of the .com site would serve to redirect the uninitiated. When I say embedded, I mean in the

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Randy Fisher
Hi All, I respecftully disagree - my understanding that on WikiEducator.org, there will never be any advertising Isnt' this the thin edge of the wedge doing some of the bending? Why can't we just have a disclaimer on the DOT COM website, about it being the "commercial, or business" arm of WE?

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Peter
and have wikieducator.com automatically redirect to http://www.directory.wikieducator.org Good suggestion Steve P On Feb 16, 3:09 pm, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:48 -0800, Steve Foerster wrote: > > I'm mindful that we need to find ways for WE to support itself > > finan

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:48 -0800, Steve Foerster wrote: > I'm mindful that we need to find ways for WE to support itself > financially, and as such I'm all for having a directory of third > parties who help others use OERs, including those at WE. But is there > a lot of advantage to it being at

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Steve Foerster
People often make mistakes when typing in web addresses, and the most common is probably to forget that there are other top level domains than .com. For example, there's at least one article I've written out there where the publisher erroneously linked my WE affiliation to http://wikieducator.com

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Declan
Hi Wayne and Randy, I appreciate the thought and planning going into this exploration. Ultimately we all need to make a living and if there is some payback for for WE then so much the better. I don't see an immediate way to jump in, but I hope others do! Cheers, Declan --~--~-~--~~-

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-16 Thread Randy Fisher
Hi All, I appreciate the exploratory nature of these discussions, and the freedom to consider a variety of options in going forward, sideways, and no matter which way ~ moving! Regarding a commission going back to WikiEducator to support infrastructure, I would gladly give 5% or more to the cause

[WikiEducator] Re: Wikieducator.com?

2009-02-15 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Declan, WikiEducator.org is a free content initiative and will always remain free as in "freedom of speech" --- our project is rooted and informed by the essential freedoms (See: http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/What_is_free_content/Freedom_as_concept ) WikiEducator.org will