Re: [WikiEN-l] Roth is an elderly man googling

2012-09-10 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Charles Matthews wrote: You might be justified in saying this if he was really told he wasn't credible. If he was told that he wasn't a reliable source in WP's terms, that is a different kettle of fish. How's he supposed to know the difference? Besides, once he is verified

Re: [WikiEN-l] Roth is an elderly man googling

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Matthews
On 10 September 2012 17:04, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Charles Matthews wrote: You might be justified in saying this if he was really told he wasn't credible. If he was told that he wasn't a reliable source in WP's terms, that is a different kettle of fish.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Roth is an elderly man googling

2012-09-10 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Charles Matthews wrote: Besides, once he is verified to be himself, he is a reliable source. The issue was that he was a primary source and the secondary sources had preference. The issue appears to be something different. Roth's biographer wanted the existing secondary

Re: [WikiEN-l] Only on WP is the victim a bully

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Matthews
On 10 September 2012 17:26, Matthew Jacobs sxeptoman...@gmail.com wrote: Only on WP. This kind of crap is why I've essentially given up on the site. The man wants an article on HIS OWN WORK to be accurate, and was frustrated by the apparently quite unhelpful people he met there. That's just

Re: [WikiEN-l] Only on WP is the victim a bully

2012-09-10 Thread Marc Riddell
on 9/10/12 12:26 PM, Matthew Jacobs at sxeptoman...@gmail.com wrote: skip I'm really, really sick of administrators acting like complete jerks, and not only failing to get admonished in any significant way for it, but people making up excuses for their dickish behavior, and then attacking the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
I can't imagine a site more accessible and better organized than Wikipedia for someone seeking porn. They're quite correct. Bob On 9/10/2012 1:51 PM, Steve Summit wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/10/wikipedia-slow-to-filter-graphic-imagery-from-site/ Wikipedia has turned down a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine a site more accessible and better organized than Wikipedia for someone seeking porn. They're quite correct. Bob Really? Wikipedia is the best porn site you can imagine? Welcome to the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say best. Having never browsed around specifically for porn, and Wikipedia having been the only site that's put porn in my face without my asking for it, on top of the fact Wikipedia has an excellent categorization system and is allowed even in the workplace and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Risker
In reality, many businesses and individuals have filtering in place to prevent access to pages that include certain keywords. I've sometimes been stymied when following a legitimate link when I'm on a computer that has some form of net nanny software. As it turns out, it seems that software

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say best. Having never browsed around specifically for porn, and Wikipedia having been the only site that's put porn in my face without my asking for it, on top of the fact

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Coombe
It's telling that Fox News are using the Simple English Wikipedia. Also someone should let them know you only need to type in one of the search boxes to do a search, not both. NetSpark's technology was used in 2010 with Israeli technology company Cellcom to filter the mobile web, creating a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Sep 10, 2012 9:20 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: In reality, many businesses and individuals have filtering in place to prevent access to pages that include certain keywords. I've sometimes been stymied when following a legitimate link when I'm on a computer that has some form of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Fred Bauder
Wikipedia Co-Founder Larry Sanger has launched a campaign against the online encyclopedia for content filters to be put in place. Part of being a reference work. There are aspects of reality that are offensive or disturbing. I think we've made considerable progress on this matter in terms of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread Fred Bauder
On Sep 10, 2012 9:20 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: In reality, many businesses and individuals have filtering in place to prevent access to pages that include certain keywords. I've sometimes been stymied when following a legitimate link when I'm on a computer that has some form

[WikiEN-l] Privilege

2012-09-10 Thread Fred Bauder
The exercise of privilege is not usually called bullying, nor, when its prerogatives are denied are its holders called victims. Wikipedia does accord privilege to authority but only published authority. Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fox News says we have a rampant porn problem

2012-09-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
There are several issues here. One is that we are an open source site, “The idea we discussed was that NetSpark would either donate or heavily discount the cost of the filter for Wikipedia. Surely Sanger knows us well enough to know not to suggest that we ditch open source and work with a software