Carcharoth wrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Soxred93 wrote:
I feel inadequate. 32. :'(
Well, I have less than 1% of the total. But apparently more than 0.5%
That would be around 20,000 redirects! boggle
2009/12/6 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
When the (insufficiently anonymized) AOL search data was released
I took the top query terms where there were no wikipedia articles
and went about making redirects:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gmaxwell/seo
I'd like to think it helped...
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Most of the typos for MySpace.com and google.com had been created
and deleted by db-R3 (typo unlikely to happen in real life). I
recreated them with an edit summary pointing to that page, as evidence
that people's typing
Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Most of the typos for MySpace.com and google.com had been created
and deleted by db-R3 (typo unlikely to happen in real life). I
recreated them with an edit summary pointing to that page, as
2009/12/7 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
There is an argument that MediaWiki should really just have a very good
natural language search engine that can guess what users are looking for,
despite any typos.
There's an even better argument that a hand-built search engine built by
thousands
2009/12/7 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
And there is a further argument that [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy
deletion#Redirects]] should reflect this by stronger wording. As in if
any doubt, don't nominate or delete, since the resource implications of
retaining a redirect
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:30 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm working on the theory that volunteers will work hard at whatever
they damn well feel like. This is one way to get n00bs in, and
doesn't preclude other approaches.
Here's another: when someone searches for an article
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say norwegian
antarctic expedition)
Incidentally, I find the following collection of facts rather curious in
their ensemble:
1) Norwegian Antarctic Expedition was one of the most requested redlinks,
with 25 or so hits
2) There is a
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say norwegian
antarctic expedition)
Incidentally, I find the following collection of facts rather curious in
their ensemble:
1) Norwegian Antarctic Expedition
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com
wrote:
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say
norwegian
antarctic expedition)
Incidentally, I find the following
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Carcharoth
carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com
wrote:
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say
Steve Bennett wrote:
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say norwegian
antarctic expedition) that doesn't exist, let's encourage them to add it -
we have successfully located someone interested in a topic that we don't
have an article about. This is a good start.
The
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Given the huge preponderance of readers over editors, the last point
really should be first (visit help desks). Then I would go to drafting:
If you are able to draft an article on this topic, you can
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote:
I personally think we are at the stage where we should be spending time
improving what we have, rather than creating more work. We aren't low on
articles.
--Majorly
I find this view strange, and if it is a common
Steve Bennett wrote:
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say norwegian
antarctic expedition) that doesn't exist, let's encourage them to add it -
we have successfully located someone interested in a topic that we don't
have an article about. This is a good start.
2009/12/6 Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name:
It's happened to me a few times, that I've created a new article
where I thought there was a gap, then later found there to be one
already under a slightly different name.
That'ds why quite a lot of my editing is actually creating redirects!
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/6 Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name:
It's happened to me a few times, that I've created a new article
where I thought there was a gap, then later found there to be one
already under a slightly different name.
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
I've wanted to find out how many redirects I've created, but the
normal tools seem to ignore redirects. Anyone know how to list the
redirects you've created?
Carcharoth
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM, altally altal...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
I've wanted to find out how many redirects I've created, but the
normal tools seem to ignore redirects. Anyone know how to list the
redirects
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM, altally altal...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Carcharoth
carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
I've wanted to find out how many redirects I've created, but the
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
Thanks! I thought 807 was quite a lot, but then I saw David has
created 1224... :-)
I daren't ask how many redirects we have in total, though I am sure
that is somewhere as well.
Aww, just shy of 600 here.
Steve
I feel inadequate. 32. :'(
-X!
On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Carcharoth
carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
Thanks! I thought 807 was quite a lot, but then I saw David has
created 1224... :-)
I daren't ask how many redirects we have in
Soxred93 wrote:
I feel inadequate. 32. :'(
Well, I have less than 1% of the total. But apparently more than 0.5%
Charles
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On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
For example, imagine a well-meaning newbie who sees that our article
Logic starts with Logic is the study of reasoning. This newbie
might change that to Logic is the art and science of correct
deduction, which is
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Soxred93 wrote:
I feel inadequate. 32. :'(
Well, I have less than 1% of the total. But apparently more than 0.5%
That would be around 20,000 redirects! boggle
What percentage of your (very high) overall
I usually suggest to new-comers that they first spend some time
improving and updating articles in their field of interest to get
familiar with both editing mechanics and wikipedia culture. After
that, they are ready to write new articles. the two are compatible;
some users will always be
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:39 PM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
I usually suggest to new-comers that they first spend some time
improving and updating articles in their field of interest to get
It depends what you mean by newcomer. I think it's easy to make the
mistake of assuming a
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
While I fully agree with your nowhere near finished position, the
argument
you presented here is especially weak.
All that shows is that the geodata coverage is not especially uniform.
Yeah, that map has been popping
I'd like to work out some way of advocating the missing article
lists to potential new contributors. On en:wp:
http://enwp.org/WP:WANTED
http://enwp.org/WP:MISSING
I've been writing new stub articles just from those in the past couple
of days. It reminds me of how and why I got hooked on writing
David Gerard wrote:
I'd like to work out some way of advocating the missing article
lists to potential new contributors. On en:wp:
http://enwp.org/WP:WANTED
http://enwp.org/WP:MISSING
I've been writing new stub articles just from those in the past couple
of days. It reminds me of how and
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to work out some way of advocating the missing article
lists to potential new contributors. On en:wp:
http://enwp.org/WP:WANTED
http://enwp.org/WP:MISSING
I've been writing new stub articles just from those in
2009/12/5 altally altal...@googlemail.com:
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to work out some way of advocating the missing article
lists to potential new contributors. On en:wp:
http://enwp.org/WP:WANTED
http://enwp.org/WP:MISSING
I've been
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I personally think we are at the stage where we should be spending time
improving what we have, rather than creating more work. We aren't low on
articles.
Which would be a personal decision, indeed.
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
And we have lots of articles, but there are plenty of areas in dire
need of improvement. We didn't have [[euphonicon]] until I wrote it
yesterday. (Using book references - specifically, the Amazon scans!)
Music in
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
(I happen to think that starting by improving existing articles is probably a
better training,
and certainly an easier one. The question is how to motivate newcomers, to do
that or
anything else.)
The
2009/12/5 Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com:
The difficulty I see for newcomers improving existing articles is
that, as newcomers, they don't know which things they can change and
which things they should leave alone.
[snip examples of highly-discussed wordings]
Any article relating to
Carl (CBM) wrote:
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
(I happen to think that starting by improving existing articles is probably
a better training,
and certainly an easier one. The question is how to motivate newcomers, to
do that
I'd think that'd be a good idea. Part of the problem I observe as a
new page patroller is that younger Wikipedians will often write rather
silly or childish articles. Maybe if we can add a line to the end of
the deletion and You wrote a problem article notification templates
advertising
Emily Monroe wrote:
I think some
mottos of the day would also be a good idea.
There is [[Wikipedia:Tip of the day]], which I had rather lost sight of.
The sequence of new tips seems to have been revamped at the end of 2008.
Could be combined with mottoes of the day, no?
Charles
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:03:04 +, David Gerard wrote:
People are a problem.
The solution, as I believe Bender said on Futurama, is Kill All
Humans!
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