Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-05-06 Thread Charles Matthews
Update on the farrago. Apparently they printed my letter in the 25 April edition of The Spectator. Liddle responds: http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/the-week/3573521/part_2/letters.thtml Spectator readers respond to recent articles I did foul Ronaldo Sir: Let me assure Charles

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-05-06 Thread geni
2009/5/6 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com: On reflection, there is lots of vandalism to that talk page, and it doesn't match Liddle's description of what he claims to have added. i.e. Unless he gives more details, he is almost certainly having us on here. But doing so in a magazine

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-05-06 Thread Charles Matthews
Follow-up letter I have emailed to the editor of The Spectator: Sir, An appeal to Rod Liddle’s better nature was indeed a long shot; he is after all paid to dispense laddish rudeness. Your salaried jester of a columnist has been given an opportunity to retract his fanciful account of what he

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
of the question. Andrew - Original Message - From: Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 17 April, 2009 11:36:28 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-18 Thread Charles Matthews
Andrew Turvey wrote: Criminal sanctions takes it a step higher of course, but it's a tool open to us and I think we should consider using it when we can and when it's appropriate. You're probably right that this isn't exactly the right case - but I still think it's quite shocking and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-18 Thread Ray Saintonge
Charles Matthews wrote: Andrew Turvey wrote: Criminal sanctions takes it a step higher of course, but it's a tool open to us and I think we should consider using it when we can and when it's appropriate. You're probably right that this isn't exactly the right case - but I still think

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-17 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/4/17 Oldak Quill oldakqu...@gmail.com: I'm not sure why we're discussing legal options. Even if there were legal avenues open to us, it would be silly to pursue them. I endorse this comment entirely. It seems a little surreal to read some of the discussion in this thread, which whilst no

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/17 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: Basically we should (if anything) ask someone to write a polite letter to the editor of the Spectator, pointing out a few things: /me hands job to Charles, to write as a long-term editor and administrator - d.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-17 Thread Charles Matthews
David Gerard wrote: 2009/4/17 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: Basically we should (if anything) ask someone to write a polite letter to the editor of the Spectator, pointing out a few things: /me hands job to Charles, to write as a long-term editor and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-17 Thread Giacomo M-Z
Anything I can do to help, please just let me know. Giano. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: 2009/4/16 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: I had a brief flip through the history and didn't see anything like that. Looks like there are a few editors who

[WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread David Gerard
http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/3540166/stop-being-sanctimonious-about-the-mcbride-emails-make-your-own-minds-up.thtml He was upset it was in what he considered an unsuitable state, tried fixing it, was reverted and started putting silly stuff in other bios. I didn't comment on

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: I went into the profile of the footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and added the words ‘cheating Portuguese c***’ in every sentence and was delighted to see that my alterations remained in place for a week or so. Now,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 4/16/2009 1:11:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: I went into the profile of the footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and added the words ‘cheating Portuguese c***’ in every sentence and was delighted to see that my alterations remained in place for a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/16 wjhon...@aol.com: In a message dated 4/16/2009 1:11:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: I went into the profile of the footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and added the words ‘cheating Portuguese c***’ in every sentence and was delighted to see that my

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Andrew Turvey
- in practice he'd probably get off with a caution!) Andrew Original Message - From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, 16 April, 2009 20:52:27 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/16 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: I hope someone's reported him to the police for this criminal offense. Under the Computer Misuse Act 1990, deliberately making an unauthorized modification to computer data which impairing the reliability of the data can land you up to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andrewrtur...@googlemail.com writes: Under the Computer Misuse Act 1990, deliberately making an unauthorized modification to computer data which impairing the reliability of the data --- Unauthorized implies that there

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Nash
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andrewrtur...@googlemail.com writes: Under the Computer Misuse Act 1990, deliberately making an unauthorized modification to computer data which impairing the reliability of the data ---

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/4/16 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: I had a brief flip through the history and didn't see anything like that. Looks like there are a few editors who keep a close eye on the page, so it seems unlikely. Perhaps he made it up? Oh, lord, it's the Hattersley thing all over again... -- - Andrew

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Andrew Turvey
April, 2009 23:01:14 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andrewrtur...@googlemail.com writes: Under the Computer Misuse

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/16 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: Glad to have an expert on hand! Personally I think this would be more a section 3 offense (unauthorized modification) rather than section 1 (unauthorized access). Could there be a case here? I think it is arguable that although editors

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Nash
Andrew Turvey wrote: Glad to have an expert on hand! Personally I think this would be more a section 3 offense (unauthorized modification) rather than section 1 (unauthorized access). Could there be a case here? The problem is that the *unauthorised modification* under section 3 must be

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Nathan
Whether the law applies is moot, for a few reasons but including the fact that it appears he didn't do anything except use Wikipedia as a prop for his column. Nathan ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Andrew Turvey
Spectator-quality material? I presume you're being ironic! - Original Message - From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 17 April, 2009 00:10:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Ian Woollard
2009/4/17 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com Whether the law applies is moot, for a few reasons but including the fact that it appears he didn't do anything except use Wikipedia as a prop for his column. Well, he also does appear to be libelling the wikipedia, and he's doing it from the UK, which is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Andrew Turvey
...@blueyonder.co.uk To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 17 April, 2009 00:18:42 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article Andrew Turvey wrote: Glad to have an expert on hand! Personally I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rod Liddle, Spectator, on his Wikipedia article

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Nash
Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/4/17 Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com: 2009/4/17 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com Whether the law applies is moot, for a few reasons but including the fact that it appears he didn't do anything except use Wikipedia as a prop for his column. Well, he also does