Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:24 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: This reads like a radical anti-egalitarian manifesto by some young Internet-based firebrand ... then I got to the end and my jaw dropped at the author's job. Heh, I'm obviously closer to this space than you - I wasn't

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 10/12/10 1:16 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: On 12/10/2010, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: His agenda is to cut his wages bill. (Vice-chancellors are not picked for their fluffy goodwill to all humanity.) But this is the guy who runs the business saying holy crap we're fucked. The thing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-13 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: [On libraries] These are not universally available or accessible.  Rural areas and third world countries have virtually no access. Maintaining a comprehensive collection is frightfully expensive both in terms of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread geni
On 12 October 2010 20:24, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/opinion-analysis/stand-and-deliver-on-its-last-legs/story-e6frgcko-1225937823844 This reads like a radical anti-egalitarian manifesto by some young Internet-based firebrand ... then

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 October 2010 20:38, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: You discovered he had an agenda a mile wide? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_New_England_%28Australia%29#Distance_Education Okey not on the level of the open university (which appears to have failed to kill conventional

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread Ian Woollard
On 12/10/2010, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: His agenda is to cut his wages bill. (Vice-chancellors are not picked for their fluffy goodwill to all humanity.) But this is the guy who runs the business saying holy crap we're fucked. The thing is that free sources of information have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 October 2010 21:16, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: They didn't replace the need for people known as teachers/lecturers/tutors either, nor the need for examinations to prove that people could actually do stuff, both of which are functions provided by universities. So I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 October 2010 21:36, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if Lord Brooke [1]  has seen that article yet. [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8058885/Lord-Browne-review-round-up-of-reaction.html ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 October 2010 21:36, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if Lord Brooke [1]  has seen that article yet. [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8058885/Lord-Browne-review-round-up-of-reaction.html Browne. Gah! It's right there in the URL! - d.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 10/12/10 12:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/opinion-analysis/stand-and-deliver-on-its-last-legs/story-e6frgcko-1225937823844 This reads like a radical anti-egalitarian manifesto by some young Internet-based firebrand ... then I got to the end

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why the Internet dooms universities

2010-10-12 Thread Charles Matthews
On 12/10/2010 21:37, David Gerard wrote: On 12 October 2010 21:36, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if Lord Brooke [1] has seen that article yet. [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8058885/Lord-Browne-review-round-up-of-reaction.html Browne. Gah!