On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:32 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
On 14 July 2010 02:07, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
The expectations upon admins are the pivot point for that. See [[
User:FT2/RfA
Ryan Delaney wrote:
Somehow this thread became about RFA standards. What happened?
True. We seem to be missing the point that the trouble with the
Administrators Noticeboard is at least in part that it is a
noticeboard, i.e. not a process for which there is a charter, but an
unchartered
On 13 July 2010 09:05, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.comwrote:
James Alexander wrote:
On a related note: someone brought this Times article to the meetup in
Boston Monday
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/12/business/media/12link.html.
There is some truth to it I think and the
Fred
I failed my first try, and could have failed my second if I hadn't
made a serious effort to ameliorate a negative perception from taking
a stand earlier.
The edge of the knife that we must balance on is both being willing to
take stands, and be open to feedback from the community and
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
But I also think that we all agree
that there's definitely a long way to go before en-wp could be considered
full. IMO we're only just scratching the surface of what we can eventually
achieve :-)
-Liam
My usual link on
Liam Wyatt wrote:
On 13 July 2010 09:05, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com
mailto:charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
James Alexander wrote:
On a related note: someone brought this Times article to the
meetup in
Boston Monday
Gwern Branwen wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
But I also think that we all agree
that there's definitely a long way to go before en-wp could be considered
full. IMO we're only just scratching the surface of what we can eventually
achieve :-)
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Fred
I failed my first try, and could have failed my second if I hadn't
made a serious effort to ameliorate a negative perception from taking
a stand earlier.
The edge of the knife that we must balance on is
The other side of that coin is that when there are systemic problems that
necessarily reduce in stress or even abusive treatment of administrators,
you ought to be identifying and correcting that. Right now, you have
exactly
such a situation. Working toward identifying and correcting
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
The other side of that coin is that when there are systemic problems that
necessarily reduce in stress or even abusive treatment of administrators,
you ought to be identifying and correcting that. Right now, you
Yes, we need to address the problems, not blame the victims and help
them
cope with nightmares.
Fred
What do you propose?
Personally, what I'm going to do is participate more on noticeboards.
Adapting that to a general solution would involve experienced
administrators paying more
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Yes, we need to address the problems, not blame the victims and help
them
cope with nightmares.
Fred
What do you propose?
Personally, what I'm going to do is participate more on noticeboards.
Adapting
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