Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:22:23 -0400, Horologium wrote: I have seen pages with endless external links, and in those, there seems to be an equal number of spam links at the top and the bottom of the list. Usually the links in the middle are the best, but of course, YMMV. That might be an

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
Anthony wrote: Oh c'mon, even the updated terms of use allow for limited vulnerability testing which is not *unduly* disruptive. Firstly, that text pertains to probing, scanning, or testing the vulnerability of any of our technical systems or networks. It has nothing to do with article

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:37 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: As Gwern (User:Gwern) continues to edit the English Wikipedia (today concluding a different experiment) and appears to have stopped participating in this discussion (thereby ignoring questions about the acknowledged

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
Gwern Branwen wrote: There's nothing to answer; Yes, there is. Your methodology has been challenged, and you've yet to identify the compromised articles, indicate that you've stopped performing such edits or confirm that the damage has been repaired. You've admitted to committing widespread

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
On 21 May 2012 00:09, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Gwern Branwen wrote: There's nothing to answer; Yes, there is. Your methodology has been challenged, and you've yet to identify the compromised articles, indicate that you've stopped performing such edits or confirm that the

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread Anthony
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:37 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: Oh c'mon, even the updated terms of use allow for limited vulnerability testing which is not *unduly* disruptive. Firstly, that text pertains to probing, scanning, or testing the vulnerability of any of

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there is. Your methodology has been challenged I don't recall any challenges, just people expressing their contempt for external links, which is not a methodological challenge. Or did you mean the issue about

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
Michel Vuijlsteke wrote: Because sometimes it's a good thing to ignore all rules to make a point? Where is the evidence that this experiment is valid and will yield useful results? (Thus far, the only justification cited is the pleasure that Gwern takes in mocking the community's reaction.)

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
Anthony wrote: Being devised and implemented unilaterally is the only way to get accurate results. There's no harm in discussing the methodology (but not the specific targets or IP addresses), thereby confirming its validity and ensuring that the effort isn't needlessly duplicated by multiple

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:47 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: There's no harm in discussing the methodology (but not the specific targets or IP addresses), thereby confirming its validity and ensuring that the effort isn't needlessly duplicated by multiple editors across countless

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
Gwern Branwen wrote: I don't recall any challenges, just people expressing their contempt for external links, which is not a methodological challenge. It's been asserted (not by me) that you selected an element poorly representative of Wikipedia's content as a whole. Alright, fine, I will

[WikiEN-l] Page Ratings analysis?

2012-05-20 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, Just wondering if there is any published analysis from the Page ratings widget that appears on every page. My subjective impression is that the ratings data is pretty bad, but I'd be interested to read up. Thanks, Steve ___ WikiEN-l mailing