2009/9/28 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
OK, here's an old-style formulation: X is to current policy and
policy-review discussions as RfAr is to the Workshop. What would X be?
That's probably horribly accurate, considering the arbcom tends -
fairly reasonably - to regard
2009/9/29 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
Quality is just the default.
Draft(unflagged) Checked Reviewed, perhaps?
I suspect it's actually important to get this right first time - on
en:wp, policy formation is by someone making up a makeshift apparatus
off the top of their head, then
2009/10/1 Surreptitiousness surreptitious.wikiped...@googlemail.com:
You've misread me. The key question is, why should we summarise this
plot. That's what's causing the problems with fiction on Wikipedia at
the minute. Although having said that, the drama does seem to have died
off a bit
2009/10/1 Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net:
This is logical, but only proves that our rules contradict ourselves every
which way.
Yes. The rules are not a consistent legal framework, they're a series
of quick hacks.
If you regard them as an immaculate stainless steel construction of
flawless
2009/10/1 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com:
The problem is there comes a point where you can't improve them in terms of
definitiveness without them being so long as to defeat easy readability
(tl;dr). At that point we rely on the reader to figure it out. if you can
spot improvements that others
2009/10/1 Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net:
Well, the last time I ran into this was the way IAR is worded. For such a
short rule it has a huge flaw: it says you can only ignore rules for the
purpose of improving or maintaining the encyclopedia. The result is people
constantly claiming that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's
reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they
can :-)
Remember: reliable sources is a guideline and requires the
application
2009/10/9 George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com:
This is very good data in the how friendly are we to newbies question.
Thanks for running the test.
Please send another update in a couple of more days at least, I am too
busy to follow on-wiki but I want to see more of the results of this.
2009/10/8 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
This may apply from time to time to certain of our editors.
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/10/endortest.shtm
Yes. It actually came up in a discussion of a particular company who
are known to employ astroturfers via their PR company.
The catch will
2009/10/9 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
The report on National Public Radio the other day stated it was unlikely the
FTC would be very aggressive about this. Yet the piece's principal focus
was bloggers. It'd be an interesting question how they'd handle the matter
when it bleeds over to
2009/10/30 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@googlemail.com:
I'm hoping that we won't have too many trick articles in this
process, or articles that should be deleted but not by CSD (the
criteria are write an article that doesn't meet the deletion
criteria.
Yeah, any such article ahs to
2009/10/30 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/10/30 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/10/30 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@googlemail.com:
I'm hoping that we won't have too many trick articles in this
process, or articles that should be deleted but not by CSD (the
criteria are write
2009/10/30 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
So where do we stand now on your comment (of not too long ago) that the
preferred mode for reversing a bum speedy deletion is not to notify the
deleting admin?
That was fatigue from dealing with too many people reacting as I
2009/11/12 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
Soxred93 wrote:
Maybe the Foundation is trying to teach us a lesson. Maybe they want
us to stop complaining about ads, so they intentionally run a bad
one. In the next few years, we'll have this to look back on and say,
it could
2009/11/13 stevertigo stv...@gmail.com:
Well its tacky - if for no other reason that it presumes to represent
Wikipedia's eternal presence. Which is an interesting thought about
futurism, but one that needs an essay to link to. And the slogan is
in SHOUTCASE, which everybody knows is the
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80HZCap3aWU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C66LOXsxVFY
(The first was a hit in 1983. The second, I have no idea of the provenance of.)
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2009/11/15 William Pietri will...@scissor.com:
David pointed us to a variety of clever slogans written by the public.
Isabell was speculating that most of them wouldn't work. I'm just saying
that we don't have to speculate; we can run all the ones that don't seem
blatantly counterproductive,
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2009/Alternative_banners#An_update_on_the_fundraiser
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From: Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org
Date: 2009/11/16
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Downtime this morning
To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi all,
There has been some downtime this morning (about 15 minutes) due to a
software update.
2009/11/16 Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com:
No argument there. What's important about this case is that (as it has been
explained to me, anyway) someone was deliberately writing a bad article with
the express intention of being a pain in the ass. That's gaming the system
in a disruptive
http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/intro/nibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers
I was struck by the repeated suggestions to look this stuff up on Wikipedia.
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2009/11/17 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/106554
Linked and digged from a current article. Quite chuckleworthy.
Now that it is what it is, any idiot can look back and say it was
obvious what would
2009/11/23 Giacomo M-Z solebaci...@googlemail.com:
Always paranoia, when you can't provide a satisfactory answer or
explanation. If I am paranoid, let me tell you that you are quite pathetic.
Having to have secret little chats because you can't have it all your own
way on wikipedia. Who the
2009/11/25 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
Up to three BBC TV interviews will be occurring today. They are
scheduled on the BBC News Channel for 5.50 pm, 7.50 pm (that should be
me), and we think Newsnight.
I haven't had a call about Newsnight as yet - anyone got this one?
2009/11/27 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
It's hard to understand the conjecture that Wikipedia ties in with those
plans. If anything, Wikipedia's habit of referencing historic news articles
would help Mr. Murdoch's bottom line because it sends traffic to old
articles, which can generate
2009/11/27 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
And the *most* newsworthy stuff makes it into Wikipedia. As a reader
of Wikipedia I think it's absolutely great. As an editor I'm
astonished at what fellow editors accomplish with topics. But if I put
myself in the shoes of journalists and newspaper
2009/11/27 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
And the *most* newsworthy stuff makes it into Wikipedia. As a reader
of Wikipedia I think it's absolutely great. As an editor I'm
astonished at what fellow editors accomplish
] Anyone visiting VA with a camera soon?
To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org
I have an afternoon to kill in London this Thursday and I own a
digital camera. I'm not sure I've ever been to the VA, so I wouldn't
mind a visit. Give me a list of things to photograph!
2009/12/4 David Gerard dger
I'd like to work out some way of advocating the missing article
lists to potential new contributors. On en:wp:
http://enwp.org/WP:WANTED
http://enwp.org/WP:MISSING
I've been writing new stub articles just from those in the past couple
of days. It reminds me of how and why I got hooked on writing
2009/12/5 altally altal...@googlemail.com:
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to work out some way of advocating the missing article
lists to potential new contributors. On en:wp:
http://enwp.org/WP:WANTED
http://enwp.org/WP:MISSING
I've been
2009/12/5 Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com:
The difficulty I see for newcomers improving existing articles is
that, as newcomers, they don't know which things they can change and
which things they should leave alone.
[snip examples of highly-discussed wordings]
Any article relating to
2009/12/6 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Something for Commons, though?
That's tricky, since Commons by definition only stores media, it doesn't
have a framework of concepts to hang media off by
2009/12/6 Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name:
It's happened to me a few times, that I've created a new article
where I thought there was a gap, then later found there to be one
already under a slightly different name.
That'ds why quite a lot of my editing is actually creating redirects!
2009/12/6 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@googlemail.com:
One place to find new articles from unconfirmed users is
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewPageshidepatrolled=1
But I also find rich picking at:
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Date: 2009/12/6
Subject: [Foundation-l] reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated
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Erik Zachte ran another analysis on the numbers and
2009/12/6 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
When the (insufficiently anonymized) AOL search data was released
I took the top query terms where there were no wikipedia articles
and went about making redirects:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gmaxwell/seo
I'd like to think it helped...
2009/12/7 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
And there is a further argument that [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy
deletion#Redirects]] should reflect this by stronger wording. As in if
any doubt, don't nominate or delete, since the resource implications of
retaining a redirect
2009/12/8 Jim Redmond j...@scrubnugget.com:
Who says we can only feature Pearl Harbor-related articles or images on
December 7? The daily FA and FP should reflect our best works, whether or
not they're related to some significant anniversary. If that means that the
article on the USS
2009/12/10 Mike Pruden mikepru...@yahoo.com:
Personally, I found unloading my watchlist liberating, and I would hope that
more would do the same. There's always that steady stream of vandal-fighters
to stomp out any clear vandalism that pops up. It's hard to explain, but I
think it's a
2009/12/10 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
The logic is wrong, in that the pile-up factor is not the main issue:
coverage on someone's watchlist at all is the issue. Divide the number
of articles by the number of active Wikipedians and you find that unless
many people have
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Date: 2009/12/10
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Update on single-revision deletion
To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
Just a note to say that I didn't go ahead with my
planned implementation of
Wikipe-tan on b3ta.
http://www.b3ta.com/board/9830507
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This is probably not the right place, you would want wikitech-l (where
I've cc'ed this reply).
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2009/12/11 Behrang Saeedzadeh behran...@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have downloaded enwiki-latest-all-titles-in-ns0.gz and I want to extract
main titles and store them in another file. For example,
2009/12/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Pete Forsyth pfors...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Does anybody else have an article they'd like to explore in this way? Or
feedback on the Celilo Falls overview?
I'd love to do something similar! Are there other
2009/12/18 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
Of course, there are past hits. Heavy Metal Umlaut: The Movie.
http://jonudell.net/udell/gems/umlaut/umlaut.html
http://jonudell.net/udell/2005-01-22-heavy-metal-umlaut-the-movie.html
Apparently someone wrote a GreaseMonkey script to do something
2009/12/18 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikipedia_fauna
Amazing.
I'm sure I remember that from Uncyclopedia ...
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Wiki
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2009/12/19 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
Does that include the WMF wiki (that is restricted access to WMF staff
or something, isn't it?) and the MediaWiki wiki (is that just
developers?). I know I could go and look this up, but I don't tend to
go outside en-wiki very much, though I
2009/12/19 Amory Meltzer amorymelt...@gmail.com:
I'll add that it doesn't appear to actually be a story yet, just a
submission made through Firehose. Regular /.ers have clearly spoken
as to how they feel about it, as noted by the colorful tags placed on
the submission and its poor rating.
2009/12/19 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
We all know William Connolley is an advocate for taking climate change
seriously. However there remains a lack of reliable information which
negates his position. If there was such information, those of us who
follow this issue would have settled
2009/12/21 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com:
The article was likely overstated. However, the editor involved did
have a substantial history of using administrative tools with respect
to global warming and related articles, as well as extensive editing
in the area, taking a consistent
Everyone reading this list is probably pretty smart - Wikipedia is a
nerd magnet, after all.
So I liked this blog post explaining how people fail to share:
http://www.lifebeyondcode.com/2009/12/26/why-some-smart-people-are-reluctant-to-share/
Can you explain the obvious to people it isn't
2009/12/27 Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com:
Thought this was kind of interesting:
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/researcherjob
The ideal person is probably someone who’s contributed to Wikipedia.
Yeah, that's from User:Aaronsw, so someone who knows precisely what
he's asking for there ;-)
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2009/12/30 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com:
Is there a guideline that prevents a restorer (or other author) from
crediting themselves in the image itself? Other discussions I've seen
today about this subject include the topic of in-image credit,
beginning with its expected presence in traditional
2010/1/2 altally altal...@googlemail.com:
Yes, it's not that difficult to create an account and wait a few days is it?
It cuts off huge amounts of easy participation way too early.
Citizendium is the extreme case of this, and their restrictive
requirements have arguably crippled them and led
2010/1/4 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, altally altal...@googlemail.com wrote:
When I started, I created an account from the beginning. Why? Because it
wasn't hard to notice the big Sign in/create account link in the corner.
Newbies aren't all clueless
Edit completion rate - someone not merely clicking edit, but
actually editing and hitting save - goes *way* up. Based on Wikia's
experience:
http://wikiangela.com/blog/end-of-2009/#comment-26732
http://twitter.com/joshuaclerner/status/3602544810
Wikitext used to be a lot simpler. Now it's
2010/1/4 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
I think that, fundamentally, WYSIWYG isn't the right model for
Wikipedia or even wikis in general. What fits our model is what you
get is what you mean. We really shouldn't want most editors worrying
too much about how the page looks because its
2010/1/4 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
So lets not confuse the usability goals or making editing SIMPLE,
NON-INTIMIDATING, and DISCOVERABLE all of which are very much wiki
concepts, with the values of WYSIWYG which encourages increased but
hidden complexity.
And never mind the actual
2010/1/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2010/1/4 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
And never mind the actual numbers from Wikia, which look very like
having a WYSIWYG system for presentational markup was *the* key to
having people actually complete a planned edit rather than click
[to list as well, sorry Shlomi!]
2010/1/4 Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il:
I personally detest all WYSIWYG web-based editors. They are slow and clunky
and produce broken markup, and just get in the way. I'm also not fond of
WYSIWYG word processors and prefer using XHTML or DocBook/XML or
2010/1/4 William Pietri will...@scissor.com:
In this case, I'd expect creating an account and waiting 3 days to lose
50-90% of the contributions we'd get with an unimpeded flow. (To what
extent we value or want those contributions is a different question; I'm
just talking about raw user
2010/1/5 William Pietri will...@scissor.com:
I think we could stave off critical mass and keep painful errors pretty
low with an approach like that.
Also, uh, dudes. We have a working live example on a few thousand
existing MediaWiki installations, called Wikia.
Some of the fears listed in
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From: William Pietri will...@scissor.com
Date: 2010/1/6
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs on en:wp?
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On 12/13/2009 03:28 PM, William Pietri wrote:
That seems like a fine thing to do. I've already
2010/1/6 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
Anyway, we'll presumably still be discussing some of the same issues in
2011, whatever the Wall Street Journal thinks (and it is good to see
that the media frenzy on WP over, it's official didn't leave a mark).
Well, no. The media
2010/1/18 Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com:
Did you know there's not one single use of the term 'Scientology' on
neilgaiman.com or any subdomains? Given his family is Scientologist,
he was raised a Scientologist in a major bastion of Scientology,
married a Scientologist, and so on, and given
2010/1/18 Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net:
The problem is that Wikipedia policies pretty much encourage editors to
filibuster changes they don't like by demanding sources and questioning the
sources. This is useful when there's a serious question about whether the
information is accurate,
2010/1/21 Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there anyone here who can do something about this before it becomes an
even bigger wheel-war?
Yes, the Arbcom has done something about it. Specifically, it has
patted them on
2010/1/21 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
That bit's not ideal, I'd think they should be listed first. Perhaps a
{{BLP-prod}}, where someone has a few days to put the references in.
OR THE ARTICLE DIES.
Added to the newly-opened RFC page:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki
2010/1/21 The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com:
Why don't we just delete Wikipedia? Then we won't have any of these
problems.
* Only if we can delete Citizendium too. -
* And Britannica. -
* Can we delete Fox News? -
** You cannot kill that which does not live. -
* The devs
2010/1/21 Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com:
As I understand it, a bunch of adminstrators deleted a bunch of
articles that they felt violated BLP aganist community consensus.
Community consensus isn't a valid reason to violate BLP. en:wp is a
top-5 website of massive impact, not a personal
2010/1/21 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
Now, presumably if I use the IMDB biog as a reference I bet I will be
done for copyvio, even though our article came *first*.
So... what to do? Deletion looms.
Explain the situation on the talk page. Basically, you wrote the text
on IMDB as well.
2010/1/21 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2010/1/21 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
not a personal playground enjoying
something akin to parliamentary privilege 'cos it says so.
Your argument that anyone on wikipedia enjoys something akin to
parliamentary privilege should be interesting.
Your
Does anyone have a summary of the articles deleted in the present
blood-crazed axe frenzy? Is there a list up? And/or a description of
the general type of BLP deleted?
I understand many were hardly-viewed articles with no edits in the
last six months. Which sounds innocuous enough, but remember
2010/1/22 James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com:
Some people won't be satisfied until Wikipedia has no BLPs.
No true Strawman will be satisfied until authority reassures him
Wikipedia has no BLPs.
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2010/1/22 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com:
Chicken Little is a fairly good comparison. I see in this group of
BLPs only the possibility of potential problems. I am waiting for
evidence that any of those deleted without checking so far has done
harm by being there.
[[John Seigenthaler]]
2010/1/22 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com:
If this does not meet the standard for disrupting Wikipedia to make
a point, I do not know what would.
Evidently. WP:POINT is about doing something you *don't* want to have
happen to make a point, not about doing things spectacularly in
general.
2010/1/22 Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com:
You probably won't be getting that evidence, since the way the policy
is in place, the burden of proof isn't on the person removing the
content-- it's on the person adding it. That's not just how BLP works,
but the verifiability policy as well,
On 23 January 2010 23:00, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote:
Repeat after me: Pure Wiki Deletion.
Last time the subject came up, I believe the advocates were asked for
any examples, anywhere, of wikis that use Pure Wiki Deletion. I don't
think they came up with any at all.
Are there
2010/1/25 Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com:
The meme that unsourced articles are pure crap is just wrong. Some are quite
well written, but by someone who didn't know (or care?) about our sourcing
requirements.
Well, yes. The problem with unsourced BLPs is that they're dangerous
in ways that
On 29 January 2010 01:35, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
(Incidentally, a fair number of the unsourced BLPs are in fact
copyvios, and when I see that, I speedy deleted on that ground, unless
it seems important enough to rewrite. )
Take care there - I increasingly see website bios
http://twitter.com/alisonclement/status/8421314259
Yesterday I asked one of my students if she knew what an encyclopedia
is, and she said, Is it something like Wikipedia?
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On 30 January 2010 20:14, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote:
That's probably an unusually accurate answer ;-) It's quite a hard question.
A lot of people have a fairly intuitive feel for it, but they cannot
tell you why.
I actually looked around in the literature to try to find a
On 30 January 2010 23:15, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I hadn't heard the one about Arianna Huffington being an interesting
person, but not exactly a revolutionary. I suppose one caps that by
saying Keen is an uninteresting person, but ... precisely because of
that
On 8 February 2010 00:16, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding is that the Wikipedia doesn't really have any risk
under the law.
Provided the strictures of the DMCA are followed, any uploaded
copyrighted material simply has to be removed promptly if they receive
a
On 10 February 2010 13:21, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
I've sometimes thought that, in an ideal world, we should just phase
out PD-old and all its forms - it's often, as you say, wishful
thinking, or sometimes (and I know in my early days I did this) a
cover for a
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Hello all,
our very positive revenue perspective
On 5 March 2010 13:25, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Charles Matthews
Oh yes, and what Carcharoth said about FLOSS history needing the
secondary sources: if they don't write the history, it isn't just WP
coverage that suffers, but the whole
On 5 March 2010 13:30, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:28 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
A lot of these deletions are on the complete absence of evidence that
anyone outside the project actually cares.
By project you mean dwm, not Wikipedia
This is beautiful and true, and you must watch it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkF5o6KPNI
(I have been at a pub with a trivia quiz where the table of
Wikipedians didn't enter because it wouldn't be fair.)
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On 7 March 2010 00:00, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Onus? No, I'm seeing masses of highly experienced editors leaving the
project, with those replacing them being relatively clueless, as to
the original vision, which was itself brilliant but incomplete.
You aren't allowing
The sheer lulz potential.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdOfWin
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On 21 March 2010 16:25, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
I'm new to this list, but I read in this beloved book I own that there has
been an ongoing discussion that accounts created at the English Wikipedia
will one day also work for Wiktionary, foreign Wikipedias and other Wikimedia
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From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton...@gmail.com
Date: 2010/3/15
Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Trending Topics On Wikipedia
To: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia.
wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
Google has
On 25 March 2010 20:45, Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:
Well, they're not dwindling since admin rights don't get taken away on
inactivity. ;-) But to the general question, because the standard expected
of a candidate for RfA has gone up over the years?
And because going through a
On 26 March 2010 08:57, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Given that WikiProjects generally will have a better idea of the
character and contributions of participants (compared to those whose
idea of RfA is an extended box-ticking process), I'd like to see
projects look
This is about a very useful study that brought home to college
students that wp is what it is, not what it isn't.
http://www.insidehighered.com/advice/instant_mentor/weir22
- d.
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On 28 March 2010 17:18, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote:
I just received an odd email suggesting I hand over my admin account to
the Wikipedia Freedom Fighters. I see that they did something similar
back in May. Whether this is an actual effort or just a way to stir up
trouble, I
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