Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread David Levy
(on the basis that its narrow scope greatly limits its value), the disruption to 100 articles is unjustified. And even if the community agrees that the data *will* be useful, it might disagree that the end justifies the means. Gwern doesn't care. David Levy

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread David Levy
-backed experiment? An experiment whose validity and appropriateness have been affirmed by the community. David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-23 Thread David Levy
is sensible and should be implemented (either with or without modification). David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-22 Thread David Levy
long-term benefits that someone believes will arise from it. And again, we're quibbling over terminology. You may have interpreted my use of the word vandalism as an accusation of a bad-faith motive on Gwern's part, but I've explained that it isn't one. David Levy

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-21 Thread David Levy
to counter it. The onus is on Gwern to establish that a special exception should be made. David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-21 Thread David Levy
to counter it. The onus is on Gwern to establish that a special exception should be made. Assume good faith. At no point have I accused Gwern of acting in bad faith. I merely believe that he/she has behaved inappropriately. David Levy ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
ignoring questions about the acknowledged vandalism), I agree that the account and associated IP addresses should be blocked until such time as a promise to cease the disruption and evidence that the damage has been repaired are forthcoming. David Levy

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
vandalism, and you now appear to be boasting of the accomplishment and mocking the community's response. Why shouldn't you be blocked to prevent further disruption? (To be clear, this isn't a rhetorical question.) David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
.) Again, imagine if hundreds or thousands of users took it upon themselves to conduct such experiments without consulting the community or the WMF and confirming their methodologies' soundness. David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
to take it upon themselves to conduct such experiments without consultation or approval? That's the hypothetical scenario to which I referred. [rolls eyes] That's unconstructive. David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-20 Thread David Levy
when you are as world-renowned as I am. I meant that there would be nothing to stop multiple editors, whose methodologies are unknown and unproven, from *unknowingly* duplicating each other's efforts. David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

[WikiEN-l] Error at Special:CongressLookup

2012-01-19 Thread David Levy
[crossposted to Foundation-l and WikiEN-l] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CongressLookup Can someone please change zip code to ZIP code again? (This error was corrected in the blackout notice yesterday.) I haven't managed to get anyone's attention via the IRC channels. Thanks! David

[WikiEN-l] Blackout notice errors

2012-01-17 Thread David Levy
[crossposted to Foundation-l and WikiEN-l] Can someone please correct the following errors in the English Wikipedia's blackout notice? internet - Internet zip code - ZIP code Thanks! David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP extension suggestion

2011-06-04 Thread David Levy
Ken Arromdee wrote: Anyone searching for [kerry swift boat] is specifically searching for the controversy, not just searching for Kerry. Kerry has common meanings unrelated to John Kerry on any level (and no common meanings along the lines of the sexual connotation arbitrarily assigned to

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP extension suggestion

2011-06-04 Thread David Levy
Carcharoth wrote: The trouble is, the article is overwritten. To be clear, I'm not endorsing any particular prose (or the absence thereof). I'm addressing Ken Arromdee's assertion that it's impossible to present a balanced article on this subject.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)

2010-12-28 Thread David Levy
television episodes. Can you give an example of that in a traditional encyclopedia? As implicitly acknowledged in your question, Wikipedia isn't a traditional encyclopedia. And if the concept is the word, shouldn't the title of the article be [[the word meh]]? Why? -- David Levy

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)

2010-12-28 Thread David Levy
(word). Otherwise, titular disambiguation (the main function of which is navigational, not informational) isn't needed. A subject's basic nature should be explained in its article's lead. -- David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)

2010-12-28 Thread David Levy
, feel free to propose one. -- David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia is not a dictionary (was: Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered)

2010-12-28 Thread David Levy
in which it's written. So while typically reliable, it isn't contextually relevant. -- David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-30 Thread David Levy
honor requests to include special text (such as a warning that the article includes material that its subject dislikes). David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-30 Thread David Levy
to argue that Wikipedia articles should contain spoiler warnings for the benefit of readers (though the English Wikipedia community has reached consensus to the contrary). This is very different from the idea of providing special editorial control to representatives of articles' subjects. David Levy