strong ties to,
and try to see how it's covered and look for improvements. Invest the time,
and ask for help.
Thank you.
Hope that's some use :)
FT2
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:00 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 June 2012 15:51, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 June 2012 14
else fails, try the reference texts named in the article, Google, a
library, or a textbook.
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have some questions regarding a wiki page, so I want to ask the
authors of the page to get clarifications. Does anybody know
You think the message is starting to get through?
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote:
I am really, really pleased that PR Week chose these three as their
expert quotes on the issue - all are basically what we would have said
had they asked us
The history of [[Edward Stanley, 19th Earl of Derby]] is a bit interesting.
A number of odd accounts there.
Geni and I chatted about some of these earlier, he was looking into them
too.
FT2
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Looks to me like
skills. Anyone else know where I can
find a basic click this and get a dismissible popup DIV class? :)
6. Should contain something interesting and engaging too :)
Feedback and any design-related questions welcomed!
Not sure where to link this from/to though.
FT2
easier (less
text? graphical? popups for detail?) then it could be useful material for
this discussion.
FT2
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comwrote:
Since it's a WMF holiday and I can do whatever I want with my time, I
made one too. ;)
http
Win-win, and community consensus can decide the reliance to place on their
newly written source v. other sources that existed.
FT2
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
High motivation for making decent open-source images available:
http
This is also interesting.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/catalyst/2010/12/16/stories/2010121650040100.htm
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On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:08 AM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
According
devise to
measure up to, compare with, and provoke improvement.
Like others have said, we need others around. Maybe not today or tomorrow,
but for the future.
FT2
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:12 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 December 2010 20:51, George Herbert george.herb
.wikipedia.org though.
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On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
Can these edits be imported into wikipedia in time for the tenth
anniversary?
I'm assuming some will relate to pages that have since been moved or
deleted so I appreciate
Would prefer on its own wiki as this is comprehensive up to a given date.
Maybe January2001.wikipedia.org -- immediate impact.
(DNS software cannot handle 2001.wikipedia.org)
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On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim
by such means (even if it sometimes could for
borderline cases).
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:45 PM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
One of those steps being Check to see if anyone already working
informative encyclopedic article, with the rest beyond that shaded
by avoidance of harm.
There will be many cases where we need to provide details that some would
prefer not to read, because they go to the heart of the article or the
topic's full description. I don't think this is one of them.
FT2
On Mon
It would, that's a sensible idea.
Another easy option is to use a term like collaboration, or to put the
topic first.
Collaboration:Cosmology?
Military history collaboration?
FT2
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 August 2010 08:51, Casey Brown li
will
not be affected by Wikimedia's decision.
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On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:11 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 August 2010 16:57, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I think I found the word, early in 2007. Misunderstanding that Gerard is
more g'day than have a nice
either not be entirely shown, or if entirely shown then they should not be
shown in excess of ___ dpi.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
You may be right. Changing subject slightly, does that argument apply
with currency counterfeiting laws? I
, if not then
not.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Well, I tried that and quickly found
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FBI_Badge.jpg
That is not a logo but a badge and fits right inside the statute Mike and
the FBI are discussing.
http
,
are genuine police officers.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
If I were the FBI or the Secret Service I would keep track and change
such images when they become publicly known regardless of expense. There
is absolutely no excuse for disclosing accurate
Duty of care is a legal term.
I think more to the point an expectation of commonsense applies to those
having a random badge waved at them, to verify it and not merely take it on
trust.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Well, you know, I think
http://www.google.com/images?num=100hl=enoe=UTF-8um=1ie=UTF-8q=badge%20site%3Afbi.gov
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Shane Simmons avicenna...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/9/10, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote
of % could determine a fake FBI
badge anyway.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Duty of care is a legal term.
Yes, and a legal term Wikipedia editors would be wise to learn the
meaning off.
OK, you're shown a badge. How would you know from
Wasn't debating which specific image to use, only the principle of whether
we can show an image at all, and whether it helps impersonators.
Clearly we should try and choose a well sourced licence-compliant good
educational value image, in preference to a poor and dubious one, if we keep
any.
FT2
enough to say
X says Y and the fact that X chose to say Y on a blog or self pub website
is not really an impediment.
FT2
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
IAR is cool. Basically it encapsulates that wiki work is for people who
can operate
It's a major issue, and needs recognition as such and a cultural problem,
not just on ANI but anywhere it happens.
FT2.
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.comwrote:
It seems like the trick is to work toward implementing this as an actual
cultural ideology
.
This is more, a natural extension and rationalization of an existing norm,
and puts SELFPUB on a platform with other material of a like nature. Worth
proposing?
FT2
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.comwrote:
Sure there's something you can do: fix the definition
Can you explain and suggest what you mean here?
FT2
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:46 PM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
(Snip)
Perhaps a rewording not using absolute terms
might work better--NFCC has shown the disadvantages of using in an
absolute sense things that need
.
My argument is therefore directly in line with that - that admins need to be
first and foremost, people who can and do exemplify good standards of
conduct - even in a heated matter.
FT2.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:18
-announced racists when
deleting their hate material
[4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NatDemUK#Your_user_page_.28again.29].
Taking firm action and even disagreeing is compatible with respecting others
and considering how they may legitimately feel.)
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On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM, FT2 ft2.w
substandard or poor
attitude on wiki basics.
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I should say, the fact we are willing to discuss not assume is fine.
Obviosuly the harm and upset arising is not.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:18 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
(Snip)
The second problem beyond that is the problem of fiddling while Rome
burns. While we potter round discussing
The expectations upon admins are the pivot point for that. See [[
User:FT2/RfA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/RfA]].
Any ideas how we can get somewhere like that?
FT2
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.comwrote:
So to speak more generally, what I'm
article.
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don't? doesn't.
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Updated at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pending_changes#How_it_affects_past_revisions_and_page_history
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:25 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Once a revision is no longer current
of pending changes is to ensure the current presented version will
be presentable to non-editors and logged-out users - nothing more.
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com
wrote
Flagged Revs pages and moving them to
[[WP:Pending Changes/Historical discussions/...]] with redirects, to make
clear what's what?
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Flagged Revs related pages (whether RFCs, proposals, or major threads) so we
can see what's out there?
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@robla.net wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:34 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Rob Lanphier ro
Edit review is not bad.
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On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote:
On 25 May 2010 02:33, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
I also like Revision Review or Edit Review, though those could be
interpreted as a review of something else, like all
Might help to sum up what exactly it does or how it's used (2-4 bullet
points) so that people trying to pick a name to match its features but
haven't followed the lengthy debate, are up to date on it.
FT2
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone
been given a basic check by vandalism patrollers. Once they are cleared
as non-vandal edits they'll be made public.*
FT2
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:57 PM, AGK wiki...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 21 May 2010 22:38, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
It turns out that filters out quite a few
*+ **...The average delay is expected to be around N minutes, and we'll
be watching this carefully.*
FT2
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:15 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Pending edits might describe the edits, but not the regime or tool.
Delayed editing is one possible option for the tool
known as this is a new anti-vandalism
measure, but should not be excessive. We'll be watching it carefully.*
(or similar.)
FT2
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
On 22 May 2010 02:18, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
*+ **...The average delay
that, in the wake of that recognition.
FT2
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Michael Ritchey ritche...@familysearch.org
wrote:
In which year of Wikipedia's existence did it start to really attract and
satisfy users? In other words, when did it hit a critical mass of good
content so
anyone can write wordings, the communal sense of the
spirit of a policy, and its pre-eminence, is quite a significant thing.
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. And agreed that it is infuriatingly vague in a way, to some
people, because something not written can matter more than the words on the
page.
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Surreptitiousness
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Ken Arromdee wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, FT2 wrote:
So the resolution of your question above is, if anyone could in
principle
check it without analysis, just by witnessing the object
on what it says.
(Key issue: any book is a primary source on its own contents.)
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exposed to that same item would agree is obvious to the five senses.
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literally by the policies (including IAR) but
not the spirit, you'll get close but there will regularly be areas you'll
miss the point, the what a clueful person might intuit (which will surely
be divergent with others!)
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote
. Another is here, where there is
some genuine historical uncertainty to whether the matter existed or not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin's_speech_on_August_19,_1939
Between those two, you should get some good ideas.
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Rob gamali...@gmail.com wrote
as well.
So state the facts. It's fine to say source X states Y and source P states
Q or the like.
Where it becomes OR is if you then start to draw your own conclusions from
it, which one is right, etc, if you don't have a good basis to do so.
FT2
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:22 AM, FT2 ft2.w
not fireworks and adventure. It's documenting what credible sources
state, and the fact that credible sources do state those things.
IAR is the other main poorly understood policy ;)
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On 9/18/09, Apoc 2400 apoc2...@gmail.com wrote:
If I may push my most radical suggestion, I want i.e. Smith2006 to be a
shortcut for ref name=Smith2006 / allowing for very short references in
text.
Interesting idea. May be worthwhile.
FT2
be
updated; provided the update is also peer reviewed it'll mean the topic's
paper is always latest knowledge. Not how it traditionally works, but in a
number of ways, better.
FT2
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/13/2009 3:19:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time
editions.
FT2
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:44 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/14/2009 1:30:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
ft2.w...@gmail.com writes:
If someone writes a paper and knowledge later advances, let the paper be
updated; provided the update is also peer reviewed it'll
-- the paper on the higgs boson as it is now, and
the same paper as it was a year, 2 years ago, showing the advance of
knowledge and correcting itself as time passes and knowledge develops.
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, or what the best approach is, how it needs
to evolve to not disrupt our better editorial processes (hence the long
discussions and trials), but in all the approaches, that's the basic idea.
FT2
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Surreptitiousness
surreptitious.wikiped...@googlemail.com wrote
issues.
So might anything, potentially.
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. Those don't appear in categories either.
It looks like you'd need to do a check on actual status of mainspace pages
via the toolserver to get accurate statistics.
FT2
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Joseph Reagle rea...@mit.edu wrote:
One of the best responses to some of the hyperbole out
a subcategory of
some protected pages category. Specifically, there are protection
templates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Protection_templates such
as Pp-dispute that don't also include the page in one of the main
protected pages categories you name.
FT2
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM, FT2
that said If you notice an error,
omission, outdated facts, or any other ways we can improve this article,
'''[[TALK PAGE|click here]]''' and let us know!
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Passed on to WP:AN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Protection_template_issue
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:36 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, found out why.
You need to account for [[Category:Wikipedia pages protected due to
dispute]] and other
dramatic, doesn't get
the dollars - but it's got zero capability of misleading.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:37 PM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.comwrote:
How would the blame maps work with people editing around vandalism? For
example someone either blanks the page or does extensive vandalism
to spend time on them and can focus on these sections.
However I would be relying on my own experience and using it as a tool to
assist and help me shortcut doing things I do already, not as a bible of
reliability, a substitute for reliable sources, or as a measure of implicit
trust.
FT2
On Tue, Sep
to bludgeon home it ISN'T.
(There would have been a graphic imagery spoiler, but we deleted
spoilers ages ago)
FT2
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Emily Monroebluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
... and then, when the claim proves to be false, become angry and go
after the Foundation
that
will always be visible no matter where you are in the article.
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/8/31 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com:
Yes. Incredibly useful. What I'd like would be when colors are shown, if
you
hover over some text it pops up a hover of the user who wrote it and when
it
was written (the revision
interpretation and is *misleading *without it.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:23 PM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
I am a little concerned that we are adopting a metric into our
interface without adequate testing. Quality or trust in an article is
not a simple numerical matter
Color coding to show aging of text (Wikitrust) has been around for ages -- I
think since shortly after the Seigenthaler incident or some 2006 incident,
or some research around 2006 ish.
Maybe this means the owners will run it live or something. I don't know.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:19 AM
scores of users, and
even telling a user their own trust score is merely a toehold into self
promotion/gaming at best. People should edit, not be encouraged to keep
scorecards.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Nathan Russell windrun...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Emily
, 2/ we
don't want to encourage a move to that kind of user evaluation metric anyway
for the many reasons given.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/8/31 Brian brian.min
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
Is it not more likely that most long-term editors who have been active
for years have had most of their text mercilessly edited into oblivion
and have very low average trust levels? And more recent editors may
have
to a ref tag in the article, the references list (separate text box
below) scrolls to that citation, which can be edited.
Some minor details to be worked out but... any mileage?
FT2
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:53 AM, stevertigo stv...@gmail.com wrote:
Well-sourced junk that reads like it belongs
One immediate if minor advantage: old references don't get lost from the
text, when their first mention is removed.
FT2
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually is there a reason why refs couldn't have a separate section?
The main disadvantage would
Indeed. It was a milestone compared to what went before, and enabled citing
to become a norm or expectation (rather than an option) in practice not just
theory.
But its some years on and we're in the #5 and useability... methynks we can
do better still :)
FT2
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Is there an easy way to identify new editors? As in, new accounts are easy,
but many users start as IPs.
FT2
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
The Welcome Wagon sought to bring them into the community
If it was bought back, would it survive?
Emily
I'm waiting for actual definitive information on enwiki or meta.
FT2
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Keith Old keith...@gmail.com wrote:
G'day folks,
The New York Times reports on flagged revisions:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/technology/internet/25wikipedia.html?partner=rssemc
Note for Jimbo - we need new free pics of you.
FT2
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Andrew
Turveyandrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
Similar story also reported by the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi
not insist on it all.
FT2
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
You do not need to mention all contributors.
A satisfactory attribution is merely a URL pointing to the Wikipedia
article and possibly one pointing at the history page.
By our inaction we've made it clear you do
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/15 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
Imagine the Obama Wikipedia Care plan. Can the government
successfully intervene to save Wikipedia?
- d.
$700 bn +/- a few dimes, divided by about
other removal/deletion processes, which would
in the usual course routinely be handled by admins. if not, then part of
cleanup is that the non-admin closer tags the redirect as {{db-reason}} or
such.
FT2
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
I have
, then
this actually might work *better* for collaboration.
FT2
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Surreptitiousness
surreptitious.wikiped...@googlemail.com wrote:
FT2 wrote:
I'd be in favor of a Draft: namespace, which users could use for
drafting
articles. Content to be non-spidered
a good place to start, for articles
which will take time to write, or articles about living people where it's
important to get it right.
FT2
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that's an issue, really.
Present process:
- No article exists, google
a formal draft: space
(clarity, collaboration, ease of finding, more obvious, less pressure on new
editors).
FT2
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Surreptitiousness
surreptitious.wikiped...@googlemail.com wrote:
FT2 wrote:
Depends, do we see a lot of fixable articles getting deleted due
userspace for drafting, but
go directly to mainspace.
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this item fall into, mostly the criteria are agreed, the
broad conclusions drawn.
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/12 Cathy Edwards cathy.edwa...@bbc.co.uk:
To add to and enrich the programme we'd really love to interview a UK
Wikipedian
Something like deletionism/inclusionism would only really be useful in terms
of phases Wikipedia has gone through or issues that its editors had to
resolve on the way. There's a lot of those.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Surreptitiousness
surreptitious.wikiped...@googlemail.com wrote:
It's simpler than that. Move has an option not to leave a redirect.
FT2
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
There is no draft namespace (yet). That would have to be proposed and
discussed on-wiki (discussions here are more like brain-storming
contributions are, Wikipedia is also a
community, and the lack of self control which means you can use such
language implies you do not have the right social skills needed to
collaborate on creating wikipedia.
Endorse.
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/8/12 George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com:
The poll can tell us that a lot of people, enough that it's probably
statistically significant as a sample (albeit self selected), are
concerned
to coexist peaceably.
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, and, to do so in a manner that minimizes the dispute
so far as possible. Users who cannot or will not do this, should avoid
participation in, and comment upon, the dispute.
I wouldn't propose it in that form, but if those ideas ended up in a dispute
and conduct norm, I would not object.
FT2
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.netwrote:
Any solution to this problem should start with the simple question: How do
you treat another human being?
The biggest clue isn't some civility standard - it's when some user says
please talk about the issues,
, and clear the tag. It
is entirely possible that the number of requests would swamp the number
of clearances, but it's a possible solution. I'd be willing to clear
say five or ten a day.
Will Johnson
Now, that works for me.
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by anyone. We could, at a pinch, work within that and still
have enough editors with access that way, to ensure content citing was not
being badly abused.
The idea of WMF subscribing and some range of users having access isn't new,
but if this did arise then it might be time to revisit it.
FT2
) would not
adequately support the /project need/ (mis cites can usually be detected
fairly quickly in practice) and it would be policy that needed to change.
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On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:26 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
I'm not really seeing any solution in your words.
Would you then change policy to state that if an item is behind a
subscription wall, then it cannot be cited at all, regardless of
whether others can access it freely (with an existing
or not the project needed more admins.
Hope that clarifies? :)
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Rename to Wikipedia:Administrator help requests or Requests for
Administrator assistance?
Sometimes a name can have an effect.
FT2
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