Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: access to journals

2013-09-25 Thread Rob
For editors who just need an specific article or two they can't find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visi

[WikiEN-l] Coming soon to a wiki near you: Meet a Wikipedian or staff!

2012-07-27 Thread Rob Schnautz
://www.massmirror.com/50136cb944818 If you do plan on responding to this email, please make sure you include my permanent email address bobthewikiped...@gmail.com —thanks! Adios, y’all! Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation Evansville, Indiana, U.S. P.S. I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program

2012-06-21 Thread Rob Schnautz
Just a reminder that this will be happening in a few minutes. Rob From: Rob Schnautz Subject: Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program The Wikimedia Foundation staff for the Wikipedia Education Program (Frank Schulenburg, Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Jami Mathewson, and I) will be hosting a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program

2012-06-18 Thread Rob Schnautz
happy to answer general questions you have about the program as well. Please refer to the information at the bottom of this email for instructions on how to join. Thank you, Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation From: Rob Schnautz Sent: Tuesday, 12

[WikiEN-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Programs in Canada and U.S.

2012-06-12 Thread Rob Schnautz
are unable to attend, a link to the chat log will be posted at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for public viewing following the session. Details on how to join the session are included below. We look forward to chatting with you! Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor

Re: [WikiEN-l] "How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit", _The Atlantic_

2012-05-16 Thread Rob Schnautz
This discussion has flowed onto Wikipedia's Administrator's Noticeboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#False_articles_created_for_the_good_of_education Rob -Original Message- From: Charles Matthews Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012 1:34 PM To: English Wikipedia S

Re: [WikiEN-l] More stringent notability requirements for biographical articles

2012-03-29 Thread Rob
I've been skimming the arguments on this matter and I'm trying to get a handle on it. One thing I don't understand is why Mr. Hawkins feels so aggrieved. Everyone is talking in abstract principles but I haven't seen where someone details what specific wrongs have been done to Mr. Hawkins. Not an

Re: [WikiEN-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program

2012-03-14 Thread Rob Schnautz
s.org/wiki/MW_1.18:Community_portal/Welcome,_beta_testers! Thanks! Rob On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Rob Schnautz wrote: The MediaWiki developers have been working hard to integrate certain elements of the Wikipedia Education Program into MediaWiki. If anyone is interested in helping beta-te

Re: [WikiEN-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program

2012-03-06 Thread Rob Schnautz
er access level will inherit privileges from the ep-instructor, ep-campus-ambassador, and ep-online-ambassador, and will be able to administer those user access levels. Other than that, it's a typical autoconfirmed user. Thanks, Rob -Original Message- From: Anirudh Bhati Sent: Tue

[WikiEN-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program

2012-03-06 Thread Rob Schnautz
/MW_1.18:Community_portal/Welcome,_beta_testers! Please note that this site does not will not represent official Wikipedia Education Program data. Feel free to alter the data on the wiki however you wish; the more testing you do, the better! Thanks, Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor

Re: [WikiEN-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread Rob
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > > 1. Talk pages are where references/links/citations go to die; less > than 10% ever make it back This makes a lot of sense. Many times I've removed these from the article for valid reasons - text/link dumps, mal- or unformed sections, etc

Re: [WikiEN-l] So ...

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Schnautz
If you're into mythology/cryptozoology, I did some translation from Old Norse and Old Icelandic this summer to put together what is probably the most complete syntheses (in any language) of [[Hafgufa]] and [[Lyngbakr]], two legendary sea monsters. Bob On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Fred Bauder

Re: [WikiEN-l] Bug 31424 - Anecdotal evidence of IE 8 problems

2011-10-07 Thread Rob Schnautz
stalled) and performed all testing using IETester, opening a "New IE8" tab for each test. Hope this helps! Bob the Wikipedian Upon reopening the tab, there is no crash, however, even after navigating back to the Wikipedia home page. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:

[WikiEN-l] Bug 31424 - Anecdotal evidence of IE 8 problems

2011-10-07 Thread Rob Lanphier
pump_%28technical%29#If_you_can_make_IE_crash_pretty_reliably_we_need_your_help. Thanks! Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Italian Wikipedia - probably best discussed on Foundation

2011-10-05 Thread Rob Schnautz
y the Italians, by Sue and many others on Foundation then I suspect a > fair > amount will be repetition and explanation of what has been said on > Foundation. > > WereSpielChequers > > > On 5 October 2011 18:48, Rob Schnautz wrote: > > > Woah. I just checked it.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-05 Thread Rob Schnautz
Woah. I just checked it.wikipedia.org because it sounded like a hoax...it's real. Does the law apply to website providers or to those who contribute to the website? If it's the former, you're right; Wikipedia is in Florida. But if it's the latter, then Wikipedia is most certainly affected by the la

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-04 Thread Rob Schnautz
If ArbCom would be damaged by people opening [[WP:DICK]] labeling cases, it certainly wouldn't be helped by people opening facepalming cases. Be it namecalling or implication of rude gestures, these are both civil issues and both need attention. At the same time, I feel the {{facepalm}} template

Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?

2011-10-03 Thread Rob Schnautz
Usually when I "facepalm" it's because I have a "moment", not someone else... I believe [[WP:DICK]] is a bigger issue than {{facepalm}} at the moment Bob On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Scott MacDonald > wrote: > > > Granted, removing u

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Press] 'Fixer' cleans Wikipedia entries for senior business figures

2011-06-09 Thread Rob
Looks to me like they are referring to 94.193.122.119, registered to London Clerkenwell Residential Dynamic. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP extension suggestion

2011-06-04 Thread Rob
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Rob wrote: >>> >>> Part of it is that we're talking about different types of things.  The >>> Kerry >>> controversy is ultimately about factual claims, and therefore whether

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP extension suggestion

2011-06-03 Thread Rob
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > Part of it is a matter of degree.  The article on the John Kerry controversy > isn't the #2 search for "Kerry" on the Internet. And whenever people mention this, they conveniently forget to mention that the #1 result is Dan Savage's website.

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP extension suggestion

2011-06-03 Thread Rob
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > Santorum is not just being victimized by Dan Savage or the news media or the > world--he's being victimized by *us*.  That makes it our job.  Just because > it's an already existing campaign doesn't mean we have no responsibility > when a sea

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP extension suggestion

2011-06-02 Thread Rob
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > >    Avoid victimization > >    When writing about a person notable only for one or two events, *or >    writing about a person who is independently notable but where the >    biographical material is so prominent that it can significantly affe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-26 Thread Rob
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Brian J Mingus wrote: > This strikes me as indirection. If someone claims that an article is biased > then they are also claiming that the process governing its creation is > biased. Such a claim is not a slur, it is a purported statement of fact. > However, you wo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-26 Thread Rob
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Brian J Mingus wrote: > I believe you will have a hard time justifying your claim that my comment is > false (not to mention that it is a slur). It should be easy to show that the > article is curated by at least one, and probably several, biased > anti-Santorum co

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-26 Thread Rob
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Brian J Mingus wrote: > > Your arguments fail to account for the fact that the article is curated by > biased anti-Santorum contributors, Well, you lost me right there. This is a terrible slur on both the editors of the article as well as all the uninvolved edito

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia article on [[Santorum (neologism)]]

2011-05-26 Thread Rob
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:30 PM, David Gerard wrote: > (Proposed general rule: if you launch your complaint on Wikipedia > Review, you're already wrong.) This is going on my user page. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscri

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times article on gender gap in Wikipedia contributors

2011-01-31 Thread Rob
I think most of the responses here have people attempting to chain their own personal hobby horses to the issue of the gender gap. Sure, we have preexisting issues that could possibly alleviate that gap if addressed, but does anyone think that increasing RFA standards or ArbCom policies regarding

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Rob Lanphier
e. > --- > > This is the new WikiPedia! Great work! Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Pending Changes development update: October 25

2010-10-25 Thread Rob Lanphier
se remark on the feedback page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Feedback Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Pending Changes development update: October 6

2010-10-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
e primary topic for Sue Gardner's office hour last week. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_Sue_2010-09-30 Please provide your input in Bugzilla if you're comfortable with that; otherwise, please remark on the feedback page: http://en.wikipedia.o

[WikiEN-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2010-09-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
k on the feedback page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Feedback Thanks! Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Pending Changes update for July 28

2010-07-29 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Carcharoth wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Rob Lanphier > wrote: > >> For a variety of operational reasons, we plan to leave the feature > running > >> while the community decides whether to keep the feature on, assumin

[WikiEN-l] Pending Changes update for July 28

2010-07-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
so after August 15. The main discussion area for this feature is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Feedback If you have comments/suggestions/questions, that's a good place to post them. Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list Wik

[WikiEN-l] Page load speed on some Pending Changes diff pages

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Lanphier
e work, but this particular fix was pretty critical for the experience. Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Pending Changes update for June 18

2010-06-18 Thread Rob Lanphier
/Wikimedia:Pending_Changes_issues We're a little behind in looking at that page, but we will get back to you if you post there. We'll also get back to you if you prefer to post to Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=Flagg

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes launched on English Wikipedia

2010-06-16 Thread Rob Lanphier
e all showing as > "0.0s". That can't be right, surely? Is that a bug? > Yeah, something there doesn't look right. We'll look into it further. Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe fro

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-08 Thread Rob Lanphier
a stub page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RobLa/PC_Page_Inventory To everyone here: please add to the list. Also, feel free to move that out of my user space to wherever you feel is appropriate. Thanks Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-08 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:34 AM, FT2 wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > > 3. This set of pages: > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions > > > > ...still has the old voc

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

2010-06-07 Thread Rob Lanphier
ons" as part of the trial (which is a separate feature that probably won't be completed by the time the trial is over with). Since these pages will get a lot of traffic during the trial from people wanting to know what was just implemented, it would be great not to confuse them with obso

[WikiEN-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections" to "Pending Changes"

2010-05-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
, help documentation, and other places that we'll talk about this feature for non-developers working on English Wikipedia. Thanks everyone for weighing in! We'll be updating the message strings on flaggedrevs.labs to reflect the new name: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-26 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Phoebe, Replies inline... On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:12 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > We're planning to change label of the "Pending changes" tab to "Pending > > revision", since what people

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-26 Thread Rob Lanphier
" seems to be heading a bit too far into jargon land for our comfort. "Pending Revisions" is the compromise that seems to stand up to scrutiny. A variation such as "Pending Edits" or "Pending Changes" also seems acceptable to us. That's whe

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-25 Thread Rob Lanphier
ision", since what people will see when they visit that tab is the pending revision, not the diff against the old version. The nice thing about then naming the feature itself "Pending Revisions" is that it aligns with what people will see as the most prominent feature of the UI. R

Re: [WikiEN-l] flagged revisions - autoreviewer even of minor edits

2010-05-22 Thread Rob Lanphier
at debate before I can explain further how this is going to work. If you have opinions, please post them there. Thanks Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection Revert Etiquette (Re: Renaming "Flagged Protections")

2010-05-22 Thread Rob Lanphier
that with an edit summary. But I don't think that > will work here, though maybe it will. > Yup, that will still work just fine. > I suspect that any action by an autoconfirmed user will automatically > accept something of any actions not yet reviewed. Will those > autoconf

[WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection Revert Etiquette (Re: Renaming "Flagged Protections")

2010-05-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
otected page. If it's not obviously vandalism, you can use the undo function with a polite note in the edit comment to discuss the change on the talk page. Presumably, you're doing this as an autoconfirmed user, which means that your edits will be automatically accepted. Rob _

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
we see it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Terminology Here's the permissions as we're currently planning to deploy them for the trial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Trial Rob

[WikiEN-l] Renaming "Flagged Protections"

2010-05-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
interface in anticipation of the launch. If you're interested in that detail work, I'll post more information about that on wikitech-l (hopefully by end-of-day Monday), as well as on the talk page above. Rob [1] - See the proposed configuration for trial phase: http://en.wikipedia.org/

[WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection trial page

2010-05-13 Thread Rob Lanphier
ial *will* start tomorrow, but we're getting close enough to being ready that we need to lock these things down, because there are very few things that require code changes that we'll be willing to consider at this point. If you have any comments/suggestions/complaints/etc abo

[WikiEN-l] Fwd: Ramping up the Flagged Revs trial

2010-05-08 Thread Rob Lanphier
the big areas of performance hit. 2. If we need to start weeding out articles to get the total count down, what order should we go in? Please leave your thoughts on the talk page, and/or flesh out the portions of the main article that still need love

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged protection and patrolled revisions

2010-05-08 Thread Rob Lanphier
al trial. That's not to say that we won't get to it, but getting more experience with the feature would be best before tinkering with this aspect of it. Make sense? Rob ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Helping out with Flagged Revs

2010-05-05 Thread Rob Lanphier
me, but not required. I'll be updating those pages based on my understanding, so it'll be helpful to start from a base of current understanding rather than what the understanding was a year ago. Thanks for your help! Rob ___ WikiEN-l mail

Re: [WikiEN-l] Chile earthquake article vs Haiti earthquake article

2010-03-05 Thread Rob
There's also the lack of interesting controversies to spur editors' interest in the Chilean earthquake. With Haiti, you had Pat Robertson's stupid comments, the alleged attempted kidnapping of orphans, the invasion of Scientology, etc. Haiti's geographic proximity also increased relative coverage

Re: [WikiEN-l] Grey crossed out links in edit history (or: did I miss another software update?)

2010-02-24 Thread Rob
Incidentally, if the oversighted edits concerned a certain gentleman and his alleged predilection for oral copulation, then that vandal has returned to the article. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Grey crossed out links in edit history (or: did I miss another software update?)

2010-02-24 Thread Rob
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Risker wrote: > > As an oversighter, I can review these edits, and I can tell you that, while > some may consider it simple vandalism, the edits contained potentially > libelous information about a person or persons that is unsuitable for public > consumption.  Th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Grey crossed out links in edit history (or: did I miss another software update?)

2010-02-24 Thread Rob
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kanon wrote: > Those edits have been oversighted. > More information on oversight can be found here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight How odd. As far as I recall, there wasn't anything in those edits except simple vandalism and reverts of said

[WikiEN-l] Grey crossed out links in edit history (or: did I miss another software update?)

2010-02-24 Thread Rob
Not sure what's going on in the edit history of [[Sam Walton]]. There are a number of grey crossed out links. At first I thought it might be a new way of displaying deleted edits but they still appear after I log out, and deleted edits on other articles still appear in the normal fashion. __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-06 Thread Rob
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Rob wrote: > > If they're available.  But what if they're not?  Is it okay to mention that > the contradictory information exists? > > I doubt you're going to come up with a hard

Re: [WikiEN-l] Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-06 Thread Rob
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Rob wrote: > In this context, the secondary source is "I found a reference to a newspaper > article which quotes the date".  It's not going to discuss the conflict the > way you describe--it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-02 Thread Rob
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote: > > Searching far and wide to find a secondary source that quoted the primary > source gains you *nothing* except compliance with Wikipedia rules.  The > secondary source isn't going to do any better fact-checking than you did when > you just lo

Re: [WikiEN-l] Age fabrication and original research

2009-10-01 Thread Rob
The reason I balk at using the SSDI or the census is I don't think we should be using primary sources in this manner. There are numerous pitfalls, including many errors of spelling and fact, to using these sources. Historians and journalists should be evaluating these sources, not us. In this par