[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-22 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
Hi, There is already several projects on Wikidata : - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Built_heritage But, the definition of a "monument" varies a lot from country to country (for some countries, "monument" is a building,

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-21 Thread Kimmo Virtanen
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 11:34 PM Mykola Kozlenko wrote: > > The heritage lists are also not a 'some degree' dependency but a major > one: organising contest without lists will result in a mess of photos that > someone needs to categorise manually. It's not easy to sort pictures from > places

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-21 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for the constructive thoughts both here and in the meeting. Richard: I'm not sure this would really 'avoid' the challenge altogether - there would likely still be calls for sites from certain regions to be excluded, or even participants from certain countries. It may be an interesting

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-21 Thread Mykola Kozlenko
Hi Richard, This is not really an unusual way: in fact, most of our campaigns are locally-based because of language and culture barriers. While Commons is multilingual, most discussions (including this one) happen in English, a language most people in the world actually don't speak. The

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-21 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Indeed, this is something I thought about proposing at the Office Hours today but we did not get to this point: Making the international part more "individual" and less "team" might help. Sure, the selection of submissions to the international part are made by national juries (who might or might

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-21 Thread Pharos
I think some of the tensions might be reduced if WLM and similar photo drives were in future structured less around "national" contests, and "national" teams. This is a somewhat unusual way to organize activities in our movement, and I think alternatives might be possible, even as we rely to some

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-21 Thread Bodhisattwa
Totally agreed with Alexey. We are not supposed to judge and sanction people based on what their governments are doing. Our focus should completely remain on how to digitally preserve built heritage of our regions in a better way, keeping aside geopolitical conflicts and differences. If we want to

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-20 Thread Коля Красный via WikiLovesMonuments
Thank you, Alexey for your words. I can also add to that the fact that people doing crimes against humanity and people photodocumenting the preciousness of our large planet are mostly different people. I can understand the feelings that can form in one's head towards anything connected to a

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-20 Thread Aleksey Chalabyan
Dear all, I wanted to add my 2 cents, since I'll be at another wikimedia call and will miss this call (or most of it) and since last time I followed principle of least drama. I am seriously afraid stepping into this territory will open a Pandora's box with dozens of requests to exclude this or

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-20 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Illia, thanks for letting us know. I understand the constraints you must be dealing with, and I wish we could have announced this earlier (not limited to your situation - this is desirable for other reasons too). Please know that it was not our intention to announce it last minute, but that we

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Re: Wiki Loves Monuments community conversation: Sunday 21 Jan on handling international competitions during armed conflict

2024-01-19 Thread Ilya Korniyko
Hi Lodewijk, WLM Ukraine's organizing team is interested in this discussion, but it's difficult to find time for it on such a short notice -- because of the armed conflict most Ukrainian Wikimedians have to simultaneously fit into their agendas their main work, Wikimedia volunteering and