(moved from wikimania-jury and wikimania-planning lists to here at the
advice of Lodewijk)
Hi all,
My comments below express my personal opinion only, which is not necessarily
representative of the opinion of WM Israel or of the WM Haifa local team.
As someone who attended Wikimania 2007, 2010
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:44, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
To me, the lack of strong bids is an indicator that holding a big,
expensive and complex international conference in a changing location year
after year is not very realistic in the long term - and Wikimania is just
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:44, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
To me, the lack of strong bids is an indicator that holding a big,
expensive and complex international conference in a changing location year
after
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree to some extent, a biannual event is an eventuality we have to
consider. But would making it biannual have any effect on the quality of the
bids, the benefit of having such a diverse community implies that the two
teams
There is merit in everything that has been said. However, there are some
assumptions I disagree with:
1) Every Wikimania has to be more professional than the one before - I think
it is perfectly fine to have a wikimania that is less professional, as long
as we're honest about it in advance. So
Thanks, Lodewijk. Still waiting to hear from more people, of course.
I would just like to correct myself and all those people who I misled into
using the word biannual. Thanks to Asaf Bartov to pointing out to me that
the correct form is biennial. According to most dictionaries, biannual
does
2011/1/19 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote:
However, most other fields have several conferences a year where
people meet each other. I'm not sure we have enough events that allow
real international 'mingling' to take
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Harel Cain harel.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I would just like to correct myself and all those people who I misled into
using the word biannual. Thanks to Asaf Bartov to pointing out to me that
the correct form is biennial. According to most dictionaries, biannual
I agree that this is an issue we need to deal with, and I'm glad this
discussion is happening. I'm not sure switching to a biennial
conference is the right solution, though. The usual rule-of-thumb is
that people participate in online communities for about 18 months (I'm
not sure how accurate that
Exactly, the majority of the successful chapters don't hold regular national
events or maybe limit themselves to a single International event. if we go
by the rule of established chapters, then the onus lies on the most
successful chapters in Europe first before any other. A large majority of
the
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM, theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, about what Dalton said above, about hiring a single event
planner/manager in the chapter, I think it's still far from being able to
manage a Wikimania style event professionally. Unless they are experienced
with
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM, theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, about what Dalton said above, about hiring a single event
planner/manager in the chapter, I think it's still far from being able to
manage a
Just throwing my two cents in as someone relatively new to Wikimania but not
unexperienced in conferences, I would make three points. Forgive me if
someone said these before in a better way.
1. Wikimania isn't actually that big. I agree with Harel when he points out
that the level of overhead
2011/1/19 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com
2. Even if Wikimania is not relatively big when it comes to technology
conferences, the problem is growing a strong local team of volunteers in a
new place every year. That's very, very hard. We're not unique in having that
difficulty as a
I am not sure about the program committee. I served last year on the
Program Committee, and as far as I know none of the three members who did
the bulk of the work (Jacek, Danica and myself) had any experience of being
previously on the Wikimania Program Committee, and I have not heard from
other
On Jan 19, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
2011/1/19 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com
2. Even if Wikimania is not relatively big when it comes to technology
conferences, the problem is growing a strong local team of volunteers in a
new place every year. That's very, very
James, even if Wikimania is a chapter builder (or improves and grows
existing chapters), I think those who have been on the ground planning and
doing (just to set up the registration site is a lot of work, and that's one
of a few dozen tasks to accomplish) almost inevitably get into a lot of
Excellent point James. I agree with Harel about possible reason
the enthusiasm fizzles away. Its a very common thing usually witnessed in
stressful fields, the organizers tend to have a high burnout rate.
So the next logical question becomes How do we attract and retain that kind
of talent?
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:23 PM, theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent point James. I agree with Harel about possible reason
the enthusiasm fizzles away. Its a very common thing usually witnessed in
stressful fields, the organizers tend to have a high burnout rate.
That's why the
A designated person to help would be good. Someone to help with travel and
visa issues, especially.
As I wrote in other places before, based on the Haifa team's experience -
there has to be some one-stop-shop person (on WMF staff or not, but
committed to this task) who could answer all
I've been to the last two wikimanias, plus GLAM wiki here in London
and several conferences in my real life. I absolutely agree with the
argument that the lifecycle of a volunteer is too short to have 24
month gaps between wikimanias. But there are sensible things that
could be done to simplify
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:27 PM, James Owen jo...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Harel,
We as a community and the people on this list who care about Wikimania need
to do our part, to put in some work and actual hours, maybe have some face
to face meetings... and find way to elevate some of the
I think this has been a very productive discussion so far.
In summary some points from the discussion-
1. Having a dedicated staff member at the foundation to co-ordinate and help
with Wikimania bidding and planning is something we should consider. Its the
biggest event we have every year,
1. Having a dedicated staff member at the foundation to co-ordinate and help
with Wikimania bidding and planning is something we should consider. Its the
biggest event we have every year, having some one familiar with the community
and the requirements for Wikimania is probably a good
On 19 January 2011 19:44, Harel Cain harel.c...@gmail.com wrote:
A lot of the back-office operation such as communicating with Foundation,
corresponding on the mailing lists, operating the registration system,
operating the scholarship review system, clearing PayPal transactions,
answering
Thanks James, I apologize for putting you on the spot and for misconstruing
your opinion as a volunteer. I understand that the community needs to take
up the effort now.
So with that in mind, is someone from the list willing to take on the
responsibility of forming or discussing a potential for a
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Harel Cain harel.c...@gmail.com wrote:
As someone who attended Wikimania 2007, 2010 and is now spending countless
hours together with other team members on preparing WM 2011, I wanted to
raise a somewhat controversial idea, namely that in future years,
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