[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 18 -- 30 April 2012

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Risker wrote: > On 1 May 2012 18:13, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> David Gerard wrote: >> > The arbcom "clerking" role evolved from the tedious paperwork of >> > arbitration getting annoying. Best not put a bureaucracy in place >> > until it's absolutely needed. We have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 18:13, Samuel Klein wrote: > David Gerard wrote: > > The arbcom "clerking" role evolved from the tedious paperwork of > > arbitration getting annoying. Best not put a bureaucracy in place > > until it's absolutely needed. We have enough of a tendency to > > instruction creep without

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

David Gerard wrote: > The arbcom "clerking" role evolved from the tedious paperwork of > arbitration getting annoying. Best not put a bureaucracy in place > until it's absolutely needed. We have enough of a tendency to > instruction creep without planning it in advance ... > Thomas Dalton wote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 22:31, Risker wrote: > I'm just making it clear from my perspective that I find it concerning that > there are discussions about the infrastructure to support the FDC when we > are at the very beginning of the discussion about what the FDC should > actually be doing, and that  there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > when looking at an article, a little "improve this page" popped up at > the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided? > > "learn how to edit" does not link to the "learn how to edit" page > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 17:13, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 May 2012 22:11, Risker wrote: > > I agree that it is likely they'll need some kind of support. The type of > > support they will need is mostly dependent on what their scope and > > responsibilities are, though. This is very much cart-before-the

[Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to?

when looking at an article, a little "improve this page" popped up at the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided? "learn how to edit" does not link to the "learn how to edit" page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing). but it links on a page telling

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

I'd advise against clerks, honestly. The term "clerk" can mean anything you want it to mean. As Yaroslav pointed out, in a legal setting judicial and court clerks can be quite influential. In government administration, at least in the U.S., a clerk is often an elected position with responsibilities

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 22:02, Risker wrote: > More particularly, since Sue has asked about "job descriptions", the two > "clerk" areas on English Wikipedia are sockpuppet investigations and > arbitration committee pages. The former is quite active in the process > itself, including blocking of suspected s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 22:11, Risker wrote: > I agree that it is likely they'll need some kind of support.  The type of > support they will need is mostly dependent on what their scope and > responsibilities are, though.  This is very much cart-before-the-horse in > my mind, kind of like hiring the cafeter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 17:06, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 May 2012 21:47, Michael Snow wrote: > > I don't know, is it actually that hard to make a determination that > creating > > this kind of support role is useful? We may not have worked out all the > > details of the process, but it seems clear that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 21:47, Michael Snow wrote: > I don't know, is it actually that hard to make a determination that creating > this kind of support role is useful? We may not have worked out all the > details of the process, but it seems clear that the process will have a > certain "weight" appropriate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 16:47, Michael Snow wrote: > On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Risker wrote: > >> On 1 May 2012 15:00, Sue Gardner wrote: >> >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it >>> would make sense for us to use volunteer "clerks" as support for the >>>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 5/1/2012 12:37 PM, Risker wrote: On 1 May 2012 15:00, Sue Gardner wrote: Hey folks, I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it would make sense for us to use volunteer "clerks" as support for the FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee), and I'm wondering if anyone can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On 1 May 2012 15:00, Sue Gardner wrote: > Hey folks, > > I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it > would make sense for us to use volunteer "clerks" as support for the > FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee), and I'm wondering if anyone can > point me towards any docum

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hours reminder

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > On the IRC front, I note that Sue last had an IRC office hours session on > 13 March and there doesn't seem to be any scheduled sessions with Sue in > May. Might it be an idea to have another office hours session with Sue soon? I've currently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hours reminder

On the IRC front, I note that Sue last had an IRC office hours session on 13 March and there doesn't seem to be any scheduled sessions with Sue in May. Might it be an idea to have another office hours session with Sue soon? -- Tom Morris _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On Tue, 1 May 2012 15:18:24 -0400, Samuel Klein wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: Based on this definition, I would not like to be called a clerk. May be an Arbcom clerk is ok, because they are supposed to keep records and undertake routine administrative duti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > Based on this definition, I would not like to be called a clerk. May be an > Arbcom clerk is ok, because they are supposed to keep records and undertake > routine administrative duties, but not for FDC, whise members are expected to >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

On Tue, 1 May 2012 12:00:23 -0700, Sue Gardner wrote: Hey folks, I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it would make sense for us to use volunteer "clerks" as support for the FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee), and I'm wondering if anyone can point me towards any do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

And the SPI (Sockpuppet Investigations) clerks are described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Clerks#Clerks . On 1 May 2012 20:03, Thomas Dalton wrote: > The English Wikipedia ArbCom's clerks are described here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

The English Wikipedia ArbCom's clerks are described here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Clerks On 1 May 2012 20:00, Sue Gardner wrote: > Hey folks, > > I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it > would make sense for us to use volunteer

[Wikimedia-l] "Clerk" role description?

Hey folks, I had a 90-second conversation the other day with SJ about whether it would make sense for us to use volunteer "clerks" as support for the FDC (Funds Dissemination Committee), and I'm wondering if anyone can point me towards any documentation of the role -- a description of how it's typ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nathan wrote: > Richard, you removed some relevant language: > > "Certain activities, whether legal or illegal, may be harmful to other > users and violate our rules, and some activities may also subject you to > liability. Therefore, for your own protection and for

[Wikimedia-l] best practices in scheduling a meeting

Hi all, This is a small but common task :) I was writing up some tips for scheduling a meeting in the wiki-verse for someone and thought what the heck, I should put this on meta as well. So here it is: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Best_practices_in_scheduling_a_meeting Please edit -- I know ma

[Wikimedia-l] Office hours reminder

Office hours with Gayle Young, the WMF Chief Talent and Culture Officer, will begin in about 90 minutes in #wikimedia-office on the freeness IRC network. Logs will be posted at the conclusion. See you there! --- Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 09:04, Jan Kučera wrote: > people in the community still think > commercial/noncomemrcial are two different worlds - they arent. There > is only one user, who actually does not care a lot about a site being > commercial/uncommercial... I'm going to assume that by "user" y

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

Richard, you removed some relevant language: "Certain activities, whether legal or illegal, may be harmful to other users and violate our rules, and some activities may also subject you to liability. Therefore, for your own protection and for that of other users, *you may not engage in such activi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

I don't think it does say that, or if it does, I can't see where. You're certainly liable if you break a law in your own country, but I don't think you've broken the terms of use. It says that > "Certain activites may subject you to liabilities... [for example] using > the services in a manner tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

Does this new TOS mean that Chinese violate WMF TOS if they view legal US material on the Wikimedia site? In case it is against Chinese censorship laws. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use

Tell me what I am missing here. please. Do these new rules not mean Chinese internet users are violating our terms of service, if they evade Chinese state censorhip to view our content? -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ Wikimedia-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: IRC Office Hours

Just thought I'd bump this thread due to the IRC sessions imminence and add value with a link to Gayle's staff page on the Foundation wiki: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Gyoung Bodnotbod ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on the CISPA drafting process, and its significance to the Wikimedia movement.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Alec Meta wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> There have been drastic changes to the CISPA language, (and >> here "drastic" is an understatement). > ... >> At this point I think *any* action by Wikimedia would be misinterpr

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 18 -- 30 April 2012

Paid editing: Does Wikipedia Pay? The Consultant: Pete Forsyth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-30/Paid_editing News and notes: Showdown as featured article writer openly solicits commercial opportunities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2