Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Cristian Consonni
On 28/07/2017 02:29, Adele Vrana wrote: > I am Adele Vrana, Director of Strategic Partnerships at the Foundation. > > We have contacts at Amazon and will seek to clarify the questions raised on > this thread. I will make sure to circle back with you once we have an > update. Thanks for your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Adele Vrana
Hello, I am Adele Vrana, Director of Strategic Partnerships at the Foundation. We have contacts at Amazon and will seek to clarify the questions raised on this thread. I will make sure to circle back with you once we have an update. All the best, Adele On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Simon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-07-27 Thread Pine W
I've been thinking more about this issue since yesterday. I should correct myself and say that my comment about "the Board are often not particularly responsive" now appears to be a little outdated, I also should acknowledge that some Board members are more responsive than others rather than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, July 27, 18:00 UTC

2017-07-27 Thread Lena Traer
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Lena Traer wrote: > Hello everyone, > > The next Wikimedia Foundation metrics and activities meeting will take > place on Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC > channel is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Cristian, In both cases, they may be within the realm of the "right to quote"[2] > (I am not sure this concept exists in US law per se) or "fair use". > I haven't checked the accuracy of the "Right to quote" Wikipedia article you referenced, but I will note here that it mentions the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.07.2017 um 16:58 schrieb Simon Poole: > Wrt using bing, that is not "reportedly", one of the nice things about > Alexa is that the companion app will actually display how it resolved > the action. In both mentioned cases it uses a bing query to get an > answer. The interesting bit is that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Cristian Consonni
On 27/07/2017 16:46, James Heilman wrote: > We want these devices to read from Wikipedia. We just want attribution as > appropriate. If they are already attributing when they go beyond fair use > than all is good. I agree, but the only way to know for sure is asking, I think. Also, I am assuming

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.07.2017 um 14:36 schrieb Andreas Kolbe: > ... > You say that Alexa reportedly gets some of this from Bing. But even if > that's the case, how does it make a difference? To me it seems rather like > Flickrwashing (Bingwashing?). > > Christian already beat me to the punch and essentially has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread James Heilman
We want these devices to read from Wikipedia. We just want attribution as appropriate. If they are already attributing when they go beyond fair use than all is good. J On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote: > Hi, > > On 27/07/2017 14:36, Andreas Kolbe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi, On 27/07/2017 14:36, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > If you look at the comments under Barbara's piece, Greg linked to this > YouTube video: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZurOYgQLT44 since I don't own an Amazon Echo, I will have to rely on the video. > I had a look at that video before posting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Simon, If you look at the comments under Barbara's piece, Greg linked to this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZurOYgQLT44 I had a look at that video before posting here. (I think it's kind of a daft video, but it does a perfectly good job of demonstrating how the Echo works.) In

[Wikimedia-l] Feedback requested for Netherlands and the World Exchange Platform

2017-07-27 Thread Arne Wossink
(Apologies for cross-posting) Dear all, The Netherlands and the World Exchange Platform went online in April 2017. A few months later, we would now like to collect some feedback on the platform: * If you’ve signed up on the platform but never got around to using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
Simon, could you clarify? Can you configure the device to give attribution? On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > > Maybe some fact checking before getting all upset would be a good idea? > > The blog post is a good story, but doesn't actually reflect how Alexa >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

2017-07-27 Thread Simon Poole
Maybe some fact checking before getting all upset would be a good idea? The blog post is a good story, but doesn't actually reflect how Alexa works wrt searching WIkipedia (I just quickly reconfigured one of mine to US English just to verify). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital