Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Cornelius, I understand the reasons for the change to the content of the conference, but I will continue to disagree on the name and the importance of naming things . In the Wikiverse there is a large vocabulary for tools, policies,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hey Chris, I'm also not specially fond of those "flipchart" workshops/sessions. I understand they are needed, but "that's not my beach", so to speak. Maybe I got it wrong, but I understood the strategy focus on the kind of connections, deals and partnerships everybody was already doing there:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Chris Keating
I have so many questions. Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and capacity-building work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in the abandonment of the main capacity building event?) And why

[Wikimedia-l] Captioning Wikidata items?

2018-09-26 Thread John Erling Blad
Just a weird idea. It is very interesting how neural nets can caption images. Quite interesting. It is done by building a state-model of the image, that is feed into a kind of neural net (RNN) and that net (a black box) will transform the state-model into running text. In some cases the neural

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, +1 to "This move means we have more leverage to organize thematic-based or regional-based events, with open participation. We should make sure that all those events involve "learning" elements. And we need more support from WMF (other any affiliates) to organise the other events." I did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Devouard (gmail)
I think it is a very good move. Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people. All those who do great things, but who are not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hi everybody, Just a quick message to tell that, having experimented the former format of the WMCON, I fully agree with Cornelius vision of the Summit. Though I really loved the old format, I do agree it will be much more productive this new way, and the funds are much better used on such a more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Pine, I beg to differ on two points: As the Wikimedia Foundation is an essential part of this event, I don't consider "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit" as more accurate. This event covers, as mentioned before, the "organized (or "structured") part of the Wikimedia movement". As 'Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Shani, sure, I'm happy to explain my rationale. The decision has a longer rationale, based on our experiences from organizing the last Wikimedia Conferences with its usual format (as in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018). Early this year, we have published a three year report (2015–2017) on the last

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread fulb...@fulbert.org
Thank you for the update and thinking through the changing direction of the 2019 conference. I only wish that a different term than “Capacity Building” were used as something excluded from the upcoming conference, given that it is also the name of one of the Movement Strategy working groups.

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

2018-09-26 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Wikimedia-l
I believe administrators outside of the US, in en wikipedia and in wikidata etc.,   do not understand, our freedom of speech and our right to due process, and that there is  a cultural misunderstanding and a lack of patience on there part, which leads to an abuse  of power and a breaking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suspensions of affiliates

2018-09-26 Thread GoEthe.wiki
>We expect, however, to at least be told that you're planning to ignore our >request. To simply thank us for clarifying it, as you did, while secretly >having no intention of complying with it in the first place is hardly >something one does when negotiating in good faith. Just to clarify this