Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What you prove is that we maintain a static artifact that does improve with time. What you prove with your reply is that you do not care for the mission, for the quality of Wikipedia but only care to maintain a status quo that is no longer good enough. Thanks, GerardM On Wed, 15 Apr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-15 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Denny, and Wikimedians, How to maintain the diversity of contributions, edits, individual knowledge generators / writers, et al, on the human side of Wikipedia, by many different language communities if these were to grow, I wonder? Is this already part of your proposal, which I haven't come

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-15 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Hi Denny, Markus, and Wikimedians / Wikidatans, Thanks so much for this momentous next step in Wikipedia & Wikidata's ~300 languages, and for this great overview "Keynote by Denny Vrandečić at SWAT4HCLS 2019" https://youtu.be/yzVA7YLwhTE & thanks too for mentioning the evolution of Wikipedia's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Todd Allen
There certainly is a lot to reflect on, isn't there? Maybe you can do some reflecting on the fact that those "long-time contributors" were, in many cases, working on Wikipedia before most people had ever even heard of it (when I first started working on it, "What's Wikipedia?" would be a question

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When I read something like this, it takes me aback. Yes, people may have an opinion, they may even express it and they even may be wrong. Who cares really. There is enough to dislike in branding, we are not cattle. From a marketing perspective there may be a point. The point would be to bring

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Multi-page advertising on Wikipedia

2020-04-15 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Hi MZMcBride, You are right that it's unusual for us to display any banners on English Wiki in the USA at this time of year. We wanted to do a thorough evaluation of our backend systems and receive some live data on our banners, which we have been adjusting to be sensitive during the ongoing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Michael Peel
I think it’s important to realise that there *is* a big issue here. How we want to be perceived and how we are actually perceived are *not* the same. We can argue about WMF vs. community as much as we want, but that won’t change reality. Please can we focus on how we solve the problem instead

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread Pine W
Hmm. As Deskana has pointed out in the past, painting everyone at WMF with the same brush is problematic. It can demoralize people who do good work. At the same time, it's difficult to escape the conclusion that the same problems occur at WMF year after year. As the saying goes, "The more things

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-15 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: >https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes/2018-11-9,10,11#Branding > >So this has been dictated from above - the "community consultation" is >window dressing for a decision that's long been made. > >Hence the nonsensical claims of massive community support by fiddling >the

[Wikimedia-l] Multi-page advertising on Wikipedia

2020-04-15 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. I happened to pull up a wiki article on my phone this morning and I got hit with multi-page advertising begging for money from Wikimedia Foundation Inc. It's mid-April, what is going on? This spam is typically confined to late November and December. I don't see any relevant campaign listed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
I decided to write/translate/create a featured article every month in Basque Wikipedia as a 2020 new year resolution. The home-confinement is helping me writing two of them in a month. From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Amir E. Aharoni Sent: Wednesday, April 15,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Peter Southwood
A very interesting proposal for a new wiki by Denny Vrandečić at https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733 (What's making me happy this week) Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: 15 April 2020 08:36 To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Two things! 1. Each of the last three weeks were the best ever for the Content Translation extension. The usual number is between 2000 and 4000 per week, and before March 2020, there was only one week with more than 5000 articles published. In each of the last three weeks more than 5000 articles

[Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 5 April 2020)

2020-04-15 Thread Pine W
* Preface * Hello, I regret that I need to start this email by communicating that Clovermoss is on an unplanned absence. [1] I hoped that she would return by now and that she would send this email. I think that one WMYHTW thread is enough for one week, so I will not start a thread for the week