[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread proc
I agree with the problem. There's also an issue where a lot of wikis are duplicating these IP blocks (eg enwiki also blocks open proxies locally), so having global-IPBE will not let people edit these local projects. They would have to get local IPBE on each project with local open-proxy blocks, as

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:25 AM Steven Walling wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:37 AM effe iets anders < > effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This family of methods risks a two class community, but I'm not sure if >> that is worse than the current situation. I'm not sure what would be the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:37 AM effe iets anders wrote: > Hi Danny, > > this is great thinking. There's one more angle that I'd like to offer, but > it would come with plenty of risks and downsides, so I'm not sure if it is > actually viable (I guess it falls in the 'mitigate harm' category).

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
With Wikipedia Zero we were able to filter the users using that program with a flag similar to the one you propose, and then monitor them and make informed decisions based on the quality of the editions. I suppose something similar could be done with OPs too. That would really be a relief. It

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread Johan Jönsson
Den lör 30 apr. 2022 kl 09:37 skrev effe iets anders < effeietsand...@gmail.com>: > Hi Danny, > > this is great thinking. There's one more angle that I'd like to offer, but > it would come with plenty of risks and downsides, so I'm not sure if it is > actually viable (I guess it falls in the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

2022-04-30 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Danny, this is great thinking. There's one more angle that I'd like to offer, but it would come with plenty of risks and downsides, so I'm not sure if it is actually viable (I guess it falls in the 'mitigate harm' category). But just to put it out there: One of the main reasons that we block