Den lör 30 apr. 2022 kl 09:37 skrev effe iets anders < effeietsand...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Danny, > > this is great thinking. There's one more angle that I'd like to offer, but > it would come with plenty of risks and downsides, so I'm not sure if it is > actually viable (I guess it falls in the 'mitigate harm' category). But > just to put it out there: > > One of the main reasons that we block open proxies, is because of > sockpuppets and block evaders. What if we would somehow expose to admins > which edits are made by open proxy? That way they can consider the entire > picture (including a history of good faith edits) before blocking their > edits. Down the road, that flag could become more nuanced (open proxy vs > shared connection) but obviously it would have to remain pretty broad > categories. There are plenty of downsides (WMF would need to keep a > database of open proxies for one, but it would also share a small piece of > private information about the user - we could warn them about that as they > are saving their edit). > > If we are afraid primarily for rapid open proxy edits, we could use a > tactic that is used by some social media tech companies in other settings: > slow them down when using an identified open proxy. If we build in a 30s > throttle or even wait time before the edit can be saved, or a 5 minute > delay before the edit can become visible, that would take the fun out of it > possibly. Obvious downside is that this is still annoying as hell for good > faith users, but at least they can now request exceptions on-wiki. > > This family of methods risks a two class community, but I'm not sure if > that is worse than the current situation. I'm not sure what would be the > 'right' path either. > Relevant in this context: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation/IP_Info_feature //Johan Jönsson --
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