Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-24 Thread Philippe Beaudette
It should. As I recall, the idea came from their work. :-) (Don't quote me, but pretty sure I'm right.) *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-24 Thread MF-Warburg
Looks like Extension:MoodBar aka FeedbackDashboard, which was enabled on enwiki for some time. Am 24.11.2014 22:26 schrieb "svetlana" : > Think I can run an instance of https://github.com/mozilla/fjord on Labs > and have various Wikimedia projects (Wikis and Chapters) point to it in > their sideba

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-24 Thread svetlana
Think I can run an instance of https://github.com/mozilla/fjord on Labs and have various Wikimedia projects (Wikis and Chapters) point to it in their sidebar. A universal "Leave Feedback" link. It would take people to a page similar to https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/feedback, with an appropria

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-24 Thread svetlana
I maintain that I would love to have a formal universal feedback channel for Chapters work. It has to be drama-free, but transparent, and not moderated. Feedback is occasionally not negative, and may contain thorough project ideas. -- svetlana On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 18:03, Gerard Meijssen wrot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As there is this constant call for more paper work for chapters, it has to be understood that this is exactly what kills the productivity of chapters. There are always more people with their opinion why this that or the other is amiss. They all have their arguments why they think they are righ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread David Gerard
Wikimedia UK doesn't run wikimediauk-l as such. (This is a point many list members have made very strongly over the years.) It's a list for UK-related Wikimedia-related things, although that definitely includes WMUK. On 23 November 2014 at 21:28, svetlana wrote: > I disagree, the question raised

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread svetlana
To clarify: I would like to see a more strong mechanism for review of Chapters work. This includes thorough feedback channels about how Chapters communicate, how they spend their funding. Including means to dissolve a Chapter if a large chunk of people believes it is not working well (such as, p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread svetlana
I disagree, the question raised is relevant to the Wikimedia movement as a whole. On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 02:37, Austin Hair wrote: > Fae, > > Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found > yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of appeals for > Wikimedia-relat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread Austin Hair
Fair enough regarding the cross-posting. As for Wikimediauk-l, I'll leave that issue there. Austin On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Fæ wrote: > I was rather puzzled by this email, then realized I had posted to > Wikimedia-l rather than Wikimediauk-l as was my intention. Apologies > for that sli

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread
I was rather puzzled by this email, then realized I had posted to Wikimedia-l rather than Wikimediauk-l as was my intention. Apologies for that slip. Thanks, Fae On 23 November 2014 at 16:37, Austin Hair wrote: > Fae, > > Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found > yourself

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread MZMcBride
Fæ wrote: >Could you please confirm that neither you, nor your employees, are >manipulating this public list to your political advantage. This is unreasonable. We don't require pledges of fealty on-demand from list moderators. Austin Hair wrote: >Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread Austin Hair
Fae, Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of appeals for Wikimedia-related lists nor a bullhorn for your personal grievances. Austin On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Fæ wrote: > Hi Darcy, > > I am concerned at wh

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Using list moderation as censorship

2014-11-23 Thread
Hi Darcy, I am concerned at what appears to be deliberate suppression of questions raising governance related issues from the wikimedia UK email list. The email below is an example. The list was always intended to be independent of the UK chapter, though one of the moderators is one of your employ