[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Wikidata's CC0 licence and database rights are the reason why there was a proposed amendment[1] to the WMF Terms of Use that was supposed to accompany any upgrade to 4.0. This included the words: Where you own Sui Generis Database Rights covered by CC BY-SA 4.0, you waive these rights. As an

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:33 AM Luis Villa wrote: > On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:03 AM Todd Allen wrote: > >> Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by >> the CC license ... >> > > No. > > All from CC BY-SA 4.0: > > 1.d:* "Copyright and Similar Rights* means

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:03 AM Todd Allen wrote: > Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by > the CC license ... > No. All from CC BY-SA 4.0: 1.d:* "Copyright and Similar Rights* means copyright and/or similar rights closely related to copyright including ...

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-28 Thread Todd Allen
Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by the CC license, so I fail to see the problem here. Todd On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 9:12 AM Strainu wrote: > Thank you Andreas, that was exactly what I was looking for. Everybody > seems to agree there is more and more CC4

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-20 Thread Strainu
Thank you Andreas, that was exactly what I was looking for. Everybody seems to agree there is more and more CC4 content out there, but apparently not enough to justify the investment. Hopefully the foundation will be able to provide more details and maybe a roadmap for the following fiscal year.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-10-20 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The question about CC 4.0 was just answered in the "Conversation with the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees". This link will take you to the right place: https://youtu.be/Zpof5J6jjZ4?t=3738 Database rights were mentioned in the answers, along with challenging, unforeseen technical

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-09-30 Thread Andreas Kolbe
See also https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0/Diff The proposed waiver of database rights that was to accompany the move from 3.0 to 4.0 was one of the sticking points, I believe. To quote: Where you own Sui Generis Database Rights covered by CC BY-SA 4.0, you waive

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-09-29 Thread Strainu
Hi Isaac, See https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0 Strainu Pe joi, 30 septembrie 2021, Isaac Olatunde a scris: > Hi Strainu, > I can't find the previous discussions.Could you please provide a link to the public consultations (or proposal) you mentioned to allow

[Wikimedia-l] Re: What happened to the cc-by-sa-4.0 initiative?

2021-09-29 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Hi Strainu, I can't find the previous discussions.Could you please provide a link to the public consultations (or proposal) you mentioned to allow people on this list have a clear understanding of what was discussed? Best regards Isaac On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, 23:22 Strainu, wrote: > Hi, > > A