Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-28 Thread Devouard (gmail)
Le 27/09/2018 à 10:00, Asaf Bartov a écrit : On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) wrote: I think it is a very good move. Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-28 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Hi Lodewijk, quick sanity check answer: * I do mention WMF staff members. Of the 200 participants, we see at least 20 staff members of the Wikimedia Foundation participating that are not present in other roles (like the ones you have mentioned). It is also mentioned on the Eligibility Criteria

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Cornelius, a quick sanity check (sorry if this was already discussed): in your overview, you don't mention any WMF staff members as such. Is that because they won't be invited in that capacity (i.e. not including staff members that happen to be in affcom, that are affiliate representatives or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This is very remarkable that nobody is actually interested in input from what the WMF functionaries now call "unorganized volunteers" - people who actually work in the projects. We are just not in the picture. Good luck with that. Do not be surprised to see a huge number of volunteers to oppose

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hi Chris, I can comment on your question why we need another strategy conference: The Wikimedia 2030 process is ongoing, and is building – among many other inputs – upon the outcomes of the last two conferences. Organized groups are already working on the implementation of the Strategic Direction

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) wrote: > I think it is a very good move. > > Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our > mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only > specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Cornelius, I understand the reasons for the change to the content of the conference, but I will continue to disagree on the name and the importance of naming things . In the Wikiverse there is a large vocabulary for tools, policies,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hey Chris, I'm also not specially fond of those "flipchart" workshops/sessions. I understand they are needed, but "that's not my beach", so to speak. Maybe I got it wrong, but I understood the strategy focus on the kind of connections, deals and partnerships everybody was already doing there:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Chris Keating
I have so many questions. Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and capacity-building work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in the abandonment of the main capacity building event?) And why

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Yes, +1 to "This move means we have more leverage to organize thematic-based or regional-based events, with open participation. We should make sure that all those events involve "learning" elements. And we need more support from WMF (other any affiliates) to organise the other events." I did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Devouard (gmail)
I think it is a very good move. Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people. All those who do great things, but who are not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hi everybody, Just a quick message to tell that, having experimented the former format of the WMCON, I fully agree with Cornelius vision of the Summit. Though I really loved the old format, I do agree it will be much more productive this new way, and the funds are much better used on such a more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Pine, I beg to differ on two points: As the Wikimedia Foundation is an essential part of this event, I don't consider "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit" as more accurate. This event covers, as mentioned before, the "organized (or "structured") part of the Wikimedia movement". As 'Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Shani, sure, I'm happy to explain my rationale. The decision has a longer rationale, based on our experiences from organizing the last Wikimedia Conferences with its usual format (as in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018). Early this year, we have published a three year report (2015–2017) on the last

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-26 Thread fulb...@fulbert.org
Thank you for the update and thinking through the changing direction of the 2019 conference. I only wish that a different term than “Capacity Building” were used as something excluded from the upcoming conference, given that it is also the name of one of the Movement Strategy working groups.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
Hi Cornelius, Thank you for the clarification. I suggest a change of wording, because "the organized part of the movement" is much broader than WMF, its committees, and the affiliates. I suggest that a suitable name for the conference would be the "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit", which would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Shani Evenstein
Dear Cornelius, Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from most affiliates, this is a great opportunity to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Just to make a clarification: I made a small mistake in a sentence that should actually be: Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs > (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (*~20*), the committees (~15 > from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear Pine, yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates. Best regards Cornelius On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wrote: > Hello Daniela and Cornelius, > > Thank you for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Pine W
Hello Daniela and Cornelius, Thank you for this update. Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"? Are you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Dear all, As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany. The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement