Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
Anthony writes: I wonder if the WMF will shut down in protest should one of the proposals to amend the constitution to overturn Citizens United gain traction in Congress. I'm not speaking for WMF, but I don't see the connection here. Wikimedia Foundation, as a corporation, is profoundly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers

2012-07-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 11/07/2012 15:40: And the possible change would be for wikitech-ambassadors to become a medium-to-high-traffic, plain English, list for discussion between developers and Wikimedia users, to report issues, share ideas and provide feedback in unapologetically layman terms. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Morton
On 12 July 2012 10:27, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 July 2012 08:47, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: At the heart of the Wikipedia/Wikimedia projects' success is democratic action, driven by those who are engaged in the process of promoting, supporting, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers

2012-07-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Amir E. Aharoni, 11/07/2012 15:40: And the possible change would be for wikitech-ambassadors to become a medium-to-high-traffic, plain English, list for discussion between developers and Wikimedia users, to report issues, share ideas and

[Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide

2012-07-12 Thread James Heilman
A travel guide discussion will be taking place today at Wikimania during lunch. Representatives from Wikivoyage and from the editor community of WIkitravel will be hear to answer any questions. A request for comment is ongoing http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony writes: I wonder if the WMF will shut down in protest should one of the proposals to amend the constitution to overturn Citizens United gain traction in Congress. I'm not speaking for WMF, but I don't see the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA, threat or menace (was Russian Wikipedia goes on strike)

2012-07-12 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Seth Finkelstein se...@sethf.com wrote: Anthony wrote: Well, it also has to be read keeping in mind that it would be borderline malpractice for him to have stated if SOPA passes then Wikipedia will be in violation of the law and forced to shut down - just in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: I'm not speaking for WMF, but I don't see the connection here. The connection is free speech. Analytically, however, the issue raised by Citizens United is not simply an issue of free speech. It centers on the precise question

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide

2012-07-12 Thread Arne Klempert
Hi James, where exactly are we going to meet? Arne Am 12.07.2012 07:54 schrieb James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com: A travel guide discussion will be taking place today at Wikimania during lunch. Representatives from Wikivoyage and from the editor community of WIkitravel will be hear to answer any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: I'm not speaking for WMF, but I don't see the connection here. The connection is free speech. Analytically, however, the issue raised by Citizens United

[Wikimedia-l] Travel meeting

2012-07-12 Thread James Heilman
We will be meeting in the main lunch room. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Analytically, however, the issue raised by Citizens United is not simply an issue of free speech. It centers on the precise question of what role corporate expenditures can play in elections. The law in question was with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
I wrote: 'I'm entirely comfortable with The New York Times Company (a corporation) and its efforts to influence the outcome of elections (e.g., through candidate endorsements; I wouldn't want to prohibit The New York Times Company from political speech.' That paragraph got truncated through an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:34:46 -0400, Nathan wrote: Is there a service provider exemption for entities like Wikimedia in Russia? Not that I know of. Is it possible that making the Russian Wikipedia inaccessible for a period in order to protest a Russian law might be considered political

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 11/07/12 00:32, David Gerard wrote: On 10 July 2012 15:29, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: SOPA didn't threaten the existence of Wikipedia, Geoff Brigham opined otherwise, IIRC. Yes, on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: You specifically contrasted regulations as a corporation with regulations by virtue of its being a nonprofit corporation. I responded to both. You then quoted my response to the first, with information with respect to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a service provider exemption for entities like Wikimedia in Russia? Is it possible that making the Russian Wikipedia inaccessible for a period in order to protest a Russian law might be considered political activism in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Anthony
As for WMF's tax status, I'm not going to talk about that -- I simply pointed out that 501(c) organizations are regulated. 501(c) *is a tax status*. 501(c)(3) is a subset of that tax status. So? I gave you pointers to regs for 501(c)(3), (c)(4), etc. Well, no, you didn't. But I know where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: So? I gave you pointers to regs for 501(c)(3), (c)(4), etc. Well, no, you didn't. I think most people will agree that I did give you pointers to the regs. I agree that I did not give you direct links to the regs. Perhaps you

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Announces 2012-13 Board of Trustees and Elected Officers at Wikimania in Washington DC

2012-07-12 Thread Matthew Roth
Hello all, Please find a press release from the Wikimedia Foundation announcing Board of Trustees election results and welcoming Alice Wiegand and Patricio Lorente to the Board. thanks, Matthew -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Wikimedia Foundation (This release is also posted at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-12 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Okay. Is there something in those regs which regulates what WMF can and cannot do politically? All I see is regulations stating that WMF may be taxed based on what is does. I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Announces 2012-13 Board of Trustees and Elected Officers at Wikimania in Washington DC

2012-07-12 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: It has been an honor to be a member of the Board, and I hope you will join me in welcoming Alice and Patricio. Thank you, Phoebe (and Arne!), for your service to the movement! And thanks to Ting for his work as Chair,