Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

Perhaps you could just imitate the QRpedia model, which says, this article is not available in your default language, and serve up links to the languages it *IS* available in. After all, presence on Wikidata means presence on *at least one Wikipedia*, if I'm not mistaken. 2013/4/25, Erik Moeller :

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Hi all, On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:39:55 +0200 Ting Chen wrote: > Oh yes, this would really be great. Just think about the money the > Foundation gives out meanwhile for translation, plus the many many > volunteers' work invested into translation. A free and open translation > software is long ov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Welcome, Jan!​ -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Moderator | Prothom-Alo Blog Assignment Reporter | The Daily Prothom-Alo Auto-confirmed, Reviewer & Roll backer Editor | Bangla Wikipedia Treasur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New account creation and login ready for testing on all projects

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > That is looking really beautiful. SJ > Thanks SJ! > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > > and here's Steven's blog post: > > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/try-new-login-accountcreation/ > > > > > > On Thu, Apr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New account creation and login ready for testing on all projects

That is looking really beautiful. SJ On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > and here's Steven's blog post: > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/try-new-login-accountcreation/ > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Today the Editor Engage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

This subthread seems headed out into practical / applied epistemology, if there is such a thing. I am not sure if we can get from here to there; that said, a new structure with language independent facts / information points that then got machine-explained or described in a local language would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New account creation and login ready for testing on all projects

and here's Steven's blog post: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/try-new-login-accountcreation/ On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > Hi all, > > Today the Editor Engagement Experiments team has ported our new designs for > account creation and login to the current version

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

On 24/04/13 16:29, Erik Moeller wrote: > Are there open source MT efforts that are close enough to merit > scrutiny? In order to be able to provide high quality result, you > would need not only a motivated, well-intentioned group of people, but > some of the smartest people in the field working on

[Wikimedia-l] New account creation and login ready for testing on all projects

Hi all, Today the Editor Engagement Experiments team has ported our new designs for account creation and login to the current version of MediaWiki core, meaning it is now available for testing on all Wikipedias and Wikimedia projects. The main purpose of starting with an opt-in testing period is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Great news! Congratulations and welcome, Jan! Patricio 2013/4/25 Risker : > Congratulations to both Jan and the Community Advocacy team. :-) > > Risker > > > On 25 April 2013 16:40, Santi Navarro wrote: > >> Welcome Jan! >> >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I am del

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Congratulations to both Jan and the Community Advocacy team. :-) Risker On 25 April 2013 16:40, Santi Navarro wrote: > Welcome Jan! > > > Dear all, > > > > I am delighted to announce the expansion of the Wikimedia Foundation's > > Community Advocacy team to include our newest hire, Jan Eissfeld

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Welcome Jan! > Dear all, > > I am delighted to announce the expansion of the Wikimedia Foundation's > Community Advocacy team to include our newest hire, Jan Eissfeldt, whose > work will be focused on the German and Spanish language sites. Jan, who > made his first contributions to the German lan

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

Dear all, I am delighted to announce the expansion of the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Advocacy team to include our newest hire, Jan Eissfeldt, whose work will be focused on the German and Spanish language sites. Jan, who made his first contributions to the German language Wikipedia in early

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] The Wikidata revolution is here: enabling structured data on Wikipedia

This press release is also available online here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room/The_Wikidata_Revolution The Wikidata revolution is here: enabling structured data on Wikipedia San Francisco, 25 April 2013 -- A year after its announcement as the first new Wikimedia project since 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI

David Richfield, 25/04/2013 21:57: That's a good point: the activity of proofreading is inherently less likely to cause controversy than the activity of building a neutral, comprehensive encyclopedia, so it's probably naturally likely to attract people who are less inclined to argue, and the topi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI

That's a good point: the activity of proofreading is inherently less likely to cause controversy than the activity of building a neutral, comprehensive encyclopedia, so it's probably naturally likely to attract people who are less inclined to argue, and the topics are also likely to be easier to re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI

Hi David, thanks for sharing. I tend to agree to some of the statements made in the thread: as a Wikisource user, I perfectly understand the lack of negativity proofreading carries, instead of, for example, writing on Gaza strip related topics... (and I would dare to say (without data, unfortunate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Denny Vrandečić < denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Not just bootstrapping the content. By having the primary content be saved > in a language independent form, and always translating it on the fly, it > would not merely bootstrap content in different language

[Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF April 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, May 2, 18:00 UTC

Dear all, The next WMF metrics and activities will take place on Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net and the meeting will be broadcast as a live YouTube stream. The current structure of the meeting is: * Review of key metrics

[Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

Millions of Wikidata stubs invade small Wikipedias .. Volapük Wikipedia now best curated source on asteroids .. new editors flood small wikis .. Google spokesperson: "This is out of control. We will shut it down." Denny suggested: >> II ) develop a feature that blends into Wikipedia's search if a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WCA] Chapters Portal - Yet another Summary of information on Meta

On 25 April 2013 11:07, Arnau Duran wrote: > Thank you for that centralitzed page, it is true that many times it is > really difficult to find info on Meta. > This has been brought up on Meta by Theo at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#.22It_is_on_Meta.E2.84.A2.22_and_organizing_things

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

On 18 April 2013 17:32, James Forrester wrote: > TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an > opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this > and help get the software translated. This is now done (for de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Branding and visibility of sister projects Re: The case for supporting open source machine translation

Hi Denny, The strongest promotion -- and actually your proposal goes into this > direction -- would be to rebrand the sister projects, and then integrate > them tighter. A first step, and a necessity before any further integration > could happen, would be to give up the many different brands the W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013/4/25 Mathieu Stumpf > What would be the limits you would expect from your solution, because you > can't expect to just "translate" everything. Form may be a part of the > meaning. It's clear that you can't translate a poem for example. Sur > wikipedia is not primary concerned about poetry, b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Le 2013-04-25 16:26, Denny Vrandečić a écrit : Erik, 2013/4/25 Erik Moeller > The system I am really aiming at is a different one, and there has > been plenty of related work in this direction: imagine a wiki where you > enter or edit content, sentence by sentence, but the natural language

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 16 -- 22 April 2013

News and notes: Milan conference a mixed bag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-22/News_and_notes In the media: Wikipedia inaccurate, says Florence; New Wikipedia app for breaking news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-22/In_the_media

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013/4/25 Brion Vibber > You are blowing my mind, dude. :) > Glad to do hear :) I suspect this approach won't serve for everything, but it sounds > *awesome*. If we can tie natural-language statements directly to data nodes > (rather than merely annotating vague references like we do today), t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Denny Vrandečić < denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Not just bootstrapping the content. By having the primary content be saved > in a language independent form, and always translating it on the fly, it > would not merely bootstrap content in different language

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

2013/4/25 Fae : > fundraising = > administering grants and fund applications > (I can see your grant, other income and membership dues, but not the > cost of managing these; it may be better to estimate them and deduct > them from "administration" rather than leaving this as zero) Actually it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Erik, 2013/4/25 Erik Moeller > > The system I am really aiming at is a different one, and there has > > been plenty of related work in this direction: imagine a wiki where you > > enter or edit content, sentence by sentence, but the natural language > > representation is just a surface syntax fo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Le 2013-04-25 04:49, George Herbert a écrit : We can't usefully help with internet access (and that's proceeding at good pace even in the third world), but language will remain a barrier when people get access. In a few situations politics / firewalling is as well (China, primarily), which is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

On 25 April 2013 14:07, Chris Keating wrote: > Rather than focusing on understanding our costs in detail, I would like to > understand our benefits in detail. Sure, it would be great to have a top level performance indicator for this. Measuring programmes in terms of hard benefit to the beneficia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

I would like to suggest a bit of a contrary view. Rather than focusing on understanding our costs in detail, I would like to understand our benefits in detail. The idea of an "acceptable" fundraising costs ratio is, to be honest, a bit of a red herring. In general for a mature organisation it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

Hi Tomasz, I knew the chat we had over a tasty fresh fish dinner in Milan would pay off :-) On 25 April 2013 12:28, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > If you want, we can try with Wikimedia Polska. Here there is a rough table: > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/U%C5%BCytkownik:Polimerek/Spraw_zarzadu#Finanse > j

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

> It is disappointing that no organization has readily come forward in > reply to my original question with their pre-calculated > "program:fundraising:administrative cost ratios" (I love this way of > conceiving of the ratio) it would be really handy to be discussing a > real case at this moment.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Denny, very good and compelling reasoning as always. I think the argument that we can potentially do a lot for the MT space (including open source efforts) in part by getting our own house in order on the dictionary side of things makes a lot of sense. I don't think it necessarily excludes investi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

> From: Ad Huikeshoven ... > The accounting standards give guidelines about what can be allocated to > program costs, what should be included in fundraising cost and what are > administrative cost. FDC entities are required to produce audited financial > statements. The external auditor will revie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WCA] Chapters Portal - Yet another Summary of information on Meta

Thank you for that centralitzed page, it is true that many times it is really difficult to find info on Meta. However I disagree on the name - if it's going to cointain information about Chapters, Thematic organizations and User groups, it shouldn't be named "Chapters Portal" but something like "M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

An answer might be to have common criteria included in the FDC bids? On 25 April 2013 00:29, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov < alexandrdmitriroma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Forwarding from a non subscriber. > > Alex > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ad Huikeshoven > Date: 2013/4/24 >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WCA] Chapters Portal - Yet another Summary of information on Meta

Thanks, Manuel. That is useful. Also I am on of the people who think it is useless to have a chapters association at this moment (maybe ever?), it is important for us to organize such kind of information in a more centralized way. :) We also would need to have a way to share our best practices a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

On 24/04/13 12:35, Denny Vrandečić wrote: In summary, I see four calls for action right now (and for all of them this means to first actually think more and write down a project plan and gather input on that), that could and should be tackled in parallel if possible: I ) develop a structured Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

On 24/04/13 12:35, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Current machine translation research aims at using massive machine learning supported systems. They usually require big parallel corpora. We do not have big parallel corpora (Wikipedia articles are not translations of each other, in general), especially n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WCA] Chapters Portal - Yet another Summary of information on Meta

Thanks, Manuel, for picking up this topic! Very helpful indeed. I have added a few things and can help updating it regularly. Best, Nicole On 25 April 2013 10:22, Manuel Schneider wrote: > Dear all, > > it has been mentioned several times that Meta is sometimes a messy > place, with information

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia FYI

Interesting views from Project Gutenberg users. David Richfield +27718539985 Sent from a mobile device. -- Forwarded message -- From: "Bess Richfield" Date: 25 Apr 2013 09:56 Subject: Re: Wikipedia FYI To: "David Richfield" Cc: David, I am sure that, given the sheer size of wik

[Wikimedia-l] ITU Telecom Young Innovators Competition: looking for solutions that inspire local content creation

TU Telecom Young Innovators Competition has started a new challenge on preserving diversity of digital content. We are calling for concept papers or start-ups from all around the world, started by young women and men (age 18-26) who work to inspire the creation of local content in a less frequently

[Wikimedia-l] [WCA] Chapters Portal - Yet another Summary of information on Meta

Dear all, it has been mentioned several times that Meta is sometimes a messy place, with information scattered everywhere around. "It is on Meta" (TM) is one of our most used (and feared) terms. Also Wikimedia Chapters often have a hard time to keep their info updated, provide their reports at t