Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exemption to registrations on Xhosa Wikipedia

2013-09-09 Thread Victor Grigas 
Thanks everyone!


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM, James Alexander wrote:

> Yeah, sounds like they aren't on enWiki so will probably need to get it
> from stewards or request an IP exemption. If they are doing it in a
> computer lap an IP exemption is probably going to be the best bet. You can
> see directions on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation.
>
> James Alexander
> Legal and Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation
> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Haitham Shammaa  >wrote:
>
> > I had a similar issue once in the past at a Wikipedia editing workshop.
> >
> > The easiest and most practical way is to request an 'account creator' [1]
> > rights, if the they plan to run the project for a long time :
> >
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Account_creator
> >
> > or to request the accounts to be created by existing account creators at
> :
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_creator
> >
> > *--*
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> > *Learning Strategist, Global South*
> > *Wikimedia Foundation*
> >
> > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the
> > sum of all knowledge. *
> > *Click the "edit" button now, and help us make it a reality!*
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Victor Grigas 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I am in touch with a high school class in South Africa that has been
> > > writing Wikipedia Articles in isiXhosa.
> > >
> > > Some of the Wikipedians in the class:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IsiXhosa_Wikipedia_Competition_2013_at_Sinenjongo_High_School.jpg
> > >
> > > More about the school:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinenjongo_High_School#Free_access_to_Wikipedia
> > >
> > > Their teacher has been helping them with this effort for one hour a
> week.
> > > it's the only time that they have internet access. He told me:
> > >
> > > "
> > >
> > > > 1.  **We started with registering everyone as editors on
> Wikipedia.
> > > > This took a couple of sessions as there is a Wikipedia limit of 6
> > > > registrations from the same computer lab per day.
> > > >
> > > "
> > >
> > > Are there any admins who could change this limit to something more like
> > the
> > > size of a large classroom? These students are the only contributors to
> > > isiXhosa Wikipedia and they are very excited to work on it.
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exemption to registrations on Xhosa Wikipedia

2013-09-09 Thread James Alexander 
Yeah, sounds like they aren't on enWiki so will probably need to get it
from stewards or request an IP exemption. If they are doing it in a
computer lap an IP exemption is probably going to be the best bet. You can
see directions on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation.

James Alexander
Legal and Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Haitham Shammaa wrote:

> I had a similar issue once in the past at a Wikipedia editing workshop.
>
> The easiest and most practical way is to request an 'account creator' [1]
> rights, if the they plan to run the project for a long time :
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Account_creator
>
> or to request the accounts to be created by existing account creators at :
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account
>
>
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_creator
>
> *--*
> *Haitham Shammaa*
> *Learning Strategist, Global South*
> *Wikimedia Foundation*
>
> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. *
> *Click the "edit" button now, and help us make it a reality!*
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Victor Grigas 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am in touch with a high school class in South Africa that has been
> > writing Wikipedia Articles in isiXhosa.
> >
> > Some of the Wikipedians in the class:
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IsiXhosa_Wikipedia_Competition_2013_at_Sinenjongo_High_School.jpg
> >
> > More about the school:
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinenjongo_High_School#Free_access_to_Wikipedia
> >
> > Their teacher has been helping them with this effort for one hour a week.
> > it's the only time that they have internet access. He told me:
> >
> > "
> >
> > > 1.  **We started with registering everyone as editors on Wikipedia.
> > > This took a couple of sessions as there is a Wikipedia limit of 6
> > > registrations from the same computer lab per day.
> > >
> > "
> >
> > Are there any admins who could change this limit to something more like
> the
> > size of a large classroom? These students are the only contributors to
> > isiXhosa Wikipedia and they are very excited to work on it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Victor Grigas*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exemption to registrations on Xhosa Wikipedia

2013-09-09 Thread Haitham Shammaa 
I had a similar issue once in the past at a Wikipedia editing workshop.

The easiest and most practical way is to request an 'account creator' [1]
rights, if the they plan to run the project for a long time :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Account_creator

or to request the accounts to be created by existing account creators at :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account



[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_creator

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sum of all knowledge. *
*Click the "edit" button now, and help us make it a reality!*


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Victor Grigas  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am in touch with a high school class in South Africa that has been
> writing Wikipedia Articles in isiXhosa.
>
> Some of the Wikipedians in the class:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IsiXhosa_Wikipedia_Competition_2013_at_Sinenjongo_High_School.jpg
>
> More about the school:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinenjongo_High_School#Free_access_to_Wikipedia
>
> Their teacher has been helping them with this effort for one hour a week.
> it's the only time that they have internet access. He told me:
>
> "
>
> > 1.  **We started with registering everyone as editors on Wikipedia.
> > This took a couple of sessions as there is a Wikipedia limit of 6
> > registrations from the same computer lab per day.
> >
> "
>
> Are there any admins who could change this limit to something more like the
> size of a large classroom? These students are the only contributors to
> isiXhosa Wikipedia and they are very excited to work on it.
>
> --
>
> *Victor Grigas*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exemption to registrations on Xhosa Wikipedia

2013-09-09 Thread Sophie Österberg 
This is so exciting, thank you for sharing this!
I'll add this to the Education programs and projects around the world here;

https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Projects_and_Programs

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2013/9/9 Victor Grigas 

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am in touch with a high school class in South Africa that has been
> writing Wikipedia Articles in isiXhosa.
>
> Some of the Wikipedians in the class:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IsiXhosa_Wikipedia_Competition_2013_at_Sinenjongo_High_School.jpg
>
> More about the school:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinenjongo_High_School#Free_access_to_Wikipedia
>
> Their teacher has been helping them with this effort for one hour a week.
> it's the only time that they have internet access. He told me:
>
> "
>
> > 1.  **We started with registering everyone as editors on Wikipedia.
> > This took a couple of sessions as there is a Wikipedia limit of 6
> > registrations from the same computer lab per day.
> >
> "
>
> Are there any admins who could change this limit to something more like the
> size of a large classroom? These students are the only contributors to
> isiXhosa Wikipedia and they are very excited to work on it.
>
> --
>
> *Victor Grigas*
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[Wikimedia-l] Exemption to registrations on Xhosa Wikipedia

2013-09-09 Thread Victor Grigas 
Hello everyone,

I am in touch with a high school class in South Africa that has been
writing Wikipedia Articles in isiXhosa.

Some of the Wikipedians in the class:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IsiXhosa_Wikipedia_Competition_2013_at_Sinenjongo_High_School.jpg

More about the school:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinenjongo_High_School#Free_access_to_Wikipedia

Their teacher has been helping them with this effort for one hour a week.
it's the only time that they have internet access. He told me:

"

> 1.  **We started with registering everyone as editors on Wikipedia.
> This took a couple of sessions as there is a Wikipedia limit of 6
> registrations from the same computer lab per day.
>
"

Are there any admins who could change this limit to something more like the
size of a large classroom? These students are the only contributors to
isiXhosa Wikipedia and they are very excited to work on it.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some of Wikipedia's most important tools are broken

2013-09-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo) 

Rand McRanderson, 09/09/2013 20:30:

Maybe it is time to consider taking highly useful but less maintained bots


https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42259 is only a request for almost-raw 
data to be provided to tools, it's not about taking over bots or tools.



and adding them to Wikipedia architecture. Wmf can offer (not force) to
take them over.


Instead, the WMF forced (not offered) to kill them all in few months 
when they'll kill the Toolserver. ;-) So let's focus on feasible things 
like bug 42259 instead.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some of Wikipedia's most important tools are broken

2013-09-09 Thread Rand McRanderson 
Maybe it is time to consider taking highly useful but less maintained bots
and adding them to Wikipedia architecture. Wmf can offer (not force) to
take them over.
On Sep 9, 2013 2:22 PM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)"  wrote:

> Sarah Stierch, 09/09/2013 19:26:
>
>> Yeah..I've noticed that with a lot of tools, whether on the toolserver or
>> on labs. The tool I use monthly is:
>>
>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/**glamtools/treeviews/
>>
>> I ping Magnus all the time and he does his best to fix any issues and now
>> i
>> just feel like a broken record each month. It is stifling my reports as a
>> Wikipedian in Residence to UNESCO and the Library of Congress :(
>>
>> It's really tough to function without it, and so many other tools anymore.
>>
>
> That's 
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=42259
> The lack of basic pageview stats service from WMF has also been briefly
> discussed at http://lists.wikimedia.org/**pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-**
> September/071714.html
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some of Wikipedia's most important tools are broken

2013-09-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo) 

Sarah Stierch, 09/09/2013 19:26:

Yeah..I've noticed that with a lot of tools, whether on the toolserver or
on labs. The tool I use monthly is:

http://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/

I ping Magnus all the time and he does his best to fix any issues and now i
just feel like a broken record each month. It is stifling my reports as a
Wikipedian in Residence to UNESCO and the Library of Congress :(

It's really tough to function without it, and so many other tools anymore.


That's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42259
The lack of basic pageview stats service from WMF has also been briefly 
discussed at 
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/071714.html


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some of Wikipedia's most important tools are broken

2013-09-09 Thread John 
Actually the toolserver's practice is not deactivating inactive users.
Users accounts are active for 6 months. One month before the account is set
to expire they start to receive email notifications . There are no less
than 6 reminders sent out before the account is disabled. It takes less
than 3 minutes to log into the toolserver and renew your account Its just a
single command. If a tool author cannot do that, the odds are the tool is
no longer being supported and that issues about the tool are not being
fixed. In most cases disabling the account is the correct thing to do.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:

> Yeah..I've noticed that with a lot of tools, whether on the toolserver or
> on labs. The tool I use monthly is:
>
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/
>
> I ping Magnus all the time and he does his best to fix any issues and now i
> just feel like a broken record each month. It is stifling my reports as a
> Wikipedian in Residence to UNESCO and the Library of Congress :(
>
> It's really tough to function without it, and so many other tools anymore.
>
> -Sarah
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > Some of the key tool's which I use on a daily basis (and their
> workarounds)
> > no longer work.
> >
> > The tool I use the most of any is the autofill for PMID and ISBN's. The
> one
> > in the edit box has not worked for some time and the backup
> > http://diberri.crabdance.com/cgi-bin/templatefiller/index.cgi? stopped
> > working today. The second backup still works a bit thankfully
> > https://toolserver.org/~holek/cite-gen/index.php
> >
> > Another great tool is the dashboard. Its toolserver account has expired.
> > http://wikidashboard.appspot.com/enwiki/wiki/Obesity I find this strange
> > that if a users account has expired all the tools stop working. This
> would
> > be like if I stopped editing Wikipedia for a couple of months than all my
> > contributions would be deleted.
> >
> > So the question is should the WMF be helping keep some of these tools up
> > and running? Many of us long term editors have come to heavily rely on
> > them.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some of Wikipedia's most important tools are broken

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah Stierch 
Yeah..I've noticed that with a lot of tools, whether on the toolserver or
on labs. The tool I use monthly is:

http://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/treeviews/

I ping Magnus all the time and he does his best to fix any issues and now i
just feel like a broken record each month. It is stifling my reports as a
Wikipedian in Residence to UNESCO and the Library of Congress :(

It's really tough to function without it, and so many other tools anymore.

-Sarah


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, James Heilman  wrote:

> Some of the key tool's which I use on a daily basis (and their workarounds)
> no longer work.
>
> The tool I use the most of any is the autofill for PMID and ISBN's. The one
> in the edit box has not worked for some time and the backup
> http://diberri.crabdance.com/cgi-bin/templatefiller/index.cgi? stopped
> working today. The second backup still works a bit thankfully
> https://toolserver.org/~holek/cite-gen/index.php
>
> Another great tool is the dashboard. Its toolserver account has expired.
> http://wikidashboard.appspot.com/enwiki/wiki/Obesity I find this strange
> that if a users account has expired all the tools stop working. This would
> be like if I stopped editing Wikipedia for a couple of months than all my
> contributions would be deleted.
>
> So the question is should the WMF be helping keep some of these tools up
> and running? Many of us long term editors have come to heavily rely on
> them.
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[Wikimedia-l] Some of Wikipedia's most important tools are broken

2013-09-09 Thread James Heilman 
Some of the key tool's which I use on a daily basis (and their workarounds)
no longer work.

The tool I use the most of any is the autofill for PMID and ISBN's. The one
in the edit box has not worked for some time and the backup
http://diberri.crabdance.com/cgi-bin/templatefiller/index.cgi? stopped
working today. The second backup still works a bit thankfully
https://toolserver.org/~holek/cite-gen/index.php

Another great tool is the dashboard. Its toolserver account has expired.
http://wikidashboard.appspot.com/enwiki/wiki/Obesity I find this strange
that if a users account has expired all the tools stop working. This would
be like if I stopped editing Wikipedia for a couple of months than all my
contributions would be deleted.

So the question is should the WMF be helping keep some of these tools up
and running? Many of us long term editors have come to heavily rely on them.
-- 
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MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

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[Wikimedia-l] Registration Deadline: 20 September 2013 for Wikimedia Diversity Conference, 9-10 November 2013

2013-09-09 Thread Julia Kloppenburg 
Dear all,

you may already have seen the announcement on the meta page [1] or on
Facebook [2]; nevertheless we would like to inform you that the official
registration [3] for the Wikimedia Diversity Conference is open until *20
September 2013.*

The conference will focus on two aspects of diversity, that is gender
diversity (the gender gap  and LGBT initiative) and geographic diversity
(including the global south, linguistic and economic diversity).

The conference will be addressing an international audience and will
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The registration form allows to propose up to three submissions for the
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This Month in GLAM: August 2013

2013-09-09 Thread The 'This Month in GLAM' team 
*This Month in GLAM* is a monthly newsletter documenting recent happenings
within the GLAM project, such as content donations, residencies, events and
more. GLAM is an acronym of *G*alleries, *L*ibraries, *A*rchives and *M*useums.
You can find more information on the project at glamwiki.org.

*This Month in GLAM – Issue VIII, Volume III – August 2013*
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Australia and New Zealand report: Adding New South Wales stories to
Wikipedia
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2013/Contents/Australia_and_New_Zealand_report

Finland report: Wikimaps Tartu–Hong Kong
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2013/Contents/Finland_report

France report: Pompidou
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2013/Contents/France_report

Germany report: Let the GLAM shine! Planning the year 2014
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2013/Contents/Germany_report

India report: Wikipedian in Residence pilot project at the Bombay Natural
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
 Hoi,
The most relevant thing is the quality of the service provided. Add to this
the limited resources the WMF has. The cost is probably less than what our
total cost of ownership would be. It is also not wise to always try to
second guess the people who have the responsibility to make these decisions.
Thanks,
  GerardM


On 9 September 2013 11:16, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> How much do we expect to be paying to Wordpress each year for this service?
>
> John Vandenberg.
> sent from Galaxy Note
> On Sep 6, 2013 8:23 AM, "Erik Moeller"  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Leslie Carr 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Currently the blog is in a partially maintained by Operations state.
>  In
> > > ops, we have a few concerns - #1 is security (exemplified by our recent
> > > security incident) of having a wordpress instance in our production
> > > environment.  #2 is support of the blog from a technical standpoint.
>  We
> > > are currently all oversubscribed with trying to keep the production
> sites
> > > up and speedy.  The blog is low priority for us compared to the wiki's,
> > and
> > > therefore is often neglected.  When we hire about 5 more ops people, it
> > may
> > > be more sustainable, but right now, it's not - so it would actually be
> a
> > > net positive for the Operations team to move the blog onto a dedicated
> > > third party, and will also hopefully prevent any future security
> > incidents.
> >
> > Exactly. Just because we have people who have no trouble maintaining a
> > WordPress install doesn't mean we should. Time is always limited, and
> > we have to prioritize. Working with a reputable third party that also
> > drives development of the same open source software seems like a
> > perfectly reasonable choice to me in this instance. And BTW - we do
> > get situations where the blog gets a huge spike of traffic every once
> > in a while, e.g. during the SOPA/PIPA protest, so hosting it ourselves
> > is not as effortless as it may seem, without even accounting for
> > customization requests from our communications team, etc.
> >
> > Erik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-09 Thread John Vandenberg 
How much do we expect to be paying to Wordpress each year for this service?

John Vandenberg.
sent from Galaxy Note
On Sep 6, 2013 8:23 AM, "Erik Moeller"  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Leslie Carr  wrote:
>
> > Currently the blog is in a partially maintained by Operations state.  In
> > ops, we have a few concerns - #1 is security (exemplified by our recent
> > security incident) of having a wordpress instance in our production
> > environment.  #2 is support of the blog from a technical standpoint.  We
> > are currently all oversubscribed with trying to keep the production sites
> > up and speedy.  The blog is low priority for us compared to the wiki's,
> and
> > therefore is often neglected.  When we hire about 5 more ops people, it
> may
> > be more sustainable, but right now, it's not - so it would actually be a
> > net positive for the Operations team to move the blog onto a dedicated
> > third party, and will also hopefully prevent any future security
> incidents.
>
> Exactly. Just because we have people who have no trouble maintaining a
> WordPress install doesn't mean we should. Time is always limited, and
> we have to prioritize. Working with a reputable third party that also
> drives development of the same open source software seems like a
> perfectly reasonable choice to me in this instance. And BTW - we do
> get situations where the blog gets a huge spike of traffic every once
> in a while, e.g. during the SOPA/PIPA protest, so hosting it ourselves
> is not as effortless as it may seem, without even accounting for
> customization requests from our communications team, etc.
>
> Erik
> --
> Erik Möller
> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>
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