Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 08/01/16 17:43, Kevin Gorman a écrit : I'm going to publicly second (or third, or fifth,) the idea that given Arnnon's role in an incident involving illegal anti-poaching agreements he should either be removed from the board with haste, or the board should publish an incredibly good reason as

[Wikimedia-l] What happened on the Board of Trustees?

2016-01-08 Thread Tobias
Dear all, right now, we know very little about the removal of James. It is hard for anyone not involved (which is the vast majority of this community) to come up with any safe conclusions, because there is a lack of evidence. This opens up the possibility of speculation. I would prefer the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Pine W
Upon hearing of Arnnon's history at Google, I confess to being surprised to the point of a long silence. If these news reports are true, this is disturbing to say the least. Whether he was happy about it or not, it appears that he chose to participate in illegal activity in a prominent role as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Kat Walsh
I wish the best for the new board, and for the movement. But I am troubled to learn of this. I have always welcomed the appointed seats on the board--in my experience they brought useful perspectives and experience with their view from the outside, and I don't expect them all to begin their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Pine W wrote: > Dariusz, you said in your statement that was published in the Wikimedia > Blog that WMF "considered dozens of candidates from all over the world, > with not-for-profit and technology experience, and the highest professional >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Pine W wrote: >> Dariusz, you said in your statement that was published in the Wikimedia >> Blog that WMF "considered dozens of candidates from all over the world,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-08 Thread Katy Love
I've worked with Jan-Bart for three years, and I too want to thank him for his many years of service to the movement and the board, as well as to the annual plan grant program and to the Funds Dissemination Committee! As one of the Board FDC representatives to the FDC for several years,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Todd Allen
Now this is something that's worthy of being dismissed (involuntarily, if necessary) from the WMF board. This individual clearly does not meet our community values of transparency and honesty, or at least such is in serious question. Is the Board considering doing so, or reading this at all? It's

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread James Heilman
Hey All Here is my statement of apology which I sent to my fellow board members Dec 19, 2015 and which has been commented on by a number of them on this list: To my fellow board members, After our conversation today it dawned upon me that I have not communicated well just how much I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Thomas Goldammer
2016-01-09 0:40 GMT+01:00 James Heilman : > > Our board made the decision to give Lila a > second chance in the face of staff mistrust. > Now that's interesting. Where can I read more about this? Th. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Vituzzu
Il 09/01/2016 01:08, Thomas Goldammer ha scritto: 2016-01-09 0:40 GMT+01:00 James Heilman : Our board made the decision to give Lila a second chance in the face of staff mistrust. Now that's interesting. Where can I read more about this? Th. I wonder how did this kind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Nathan
I hope some day someone will be bold enough to tell the rest of us what this is all really about. I'm sure I'm not alone (though perhaps in the minority!) in not having inside staff contacts to provide the straight dope. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Kevin Gorman
You'll find the allegations to be true, Dariusz. Although the link provided was just to Pando, the internal email from Arnnon was released by court order - and the entire anti-solicitation fiasco has been fairly widely covered in the US tech news. I knew I recognized Arnnon's name from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Lodewijk
Maybe here the best is to wait a bit for the WMF to come with a response, before piling on - unless you actually have information to contribute. Pile-on threads seem to lead these days to the original questions being ignored/forgotten about. Lodewijk On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Todd Allen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Goodness, yes. Lodewijk, what a fitting thread. We spend more time reflecting on mistakes made, but JB and Stu were often responsible for the things that were done well, and without fanfare. They could always be relied upon to consider the impact of decisions on the movement and society, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

2016-01-08 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive)
All the best and Thanks you Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West. On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Goodness, yes. Lodewijk, what a fitting thread. > > We spend more time reflecting on mistakes made, but JB and Stu were often > responsible for the things that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Knight Foundation grant for search and discovery

2016-01-08 Thread K. Peachey
On 7 January 2016 at 22:45, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > ... > > I am also struck by the fact that the grant is really a very paltry one, > compared to the resources the Foundation is investing in this. The > MediaWiki page on Discovery[2] lists sixteen people working on this. >

[Wikimedia-l] Please sign your posts

2016-01-08 Thread billinghurst
To those who have fallen out of the habit of signing your posts, please fall back into the habit of good netiquette. For those of us who read the digest mode it is troublesome to have unsigned posts, and then need to flick back to the digest ToC to find the poster. Thanks. Regards, Billinghurst

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Nathan wrote: > I hope some day someone will be bold enough to tell the rest of us what > this is all really about. I'm sure I'm not alone (though perhaps in the > minority!) in not having inside staff contacts to provide the straight > dope. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please sign your posts

2016-01-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:21 AM, billinghurst wrote: > To those who have fallen out of the habit of signing your posts, > please fall back into the habit of good netiquette. For those of us > who read the digest mode it is troublesome to have unsigned posts, and > then

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please sign your posts

2016-01-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:32 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 3:21 AM, billinghurst > wrote: >> To those who have fallen out of the habit of signing your posts, >> please fall back into the habit of good netiquette. For those of us

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Knight Foundation grant for search and discovery

2016-01-08 Thread Michael Snow
On 1/8/2016 2:01 PM, K. Peachey wrote: On 7 January 2016 at 22:45, Andreas Kolbe wrote: ... I am also struck by the fact that the grant is really a very paltry one, compared to the resources the Foundation is investing in this. The MediaWiki page on Discovery[2] lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
My apologies. I just noticed the resolutions were in fact added on January 6, 2016.[1] They are dated December 9, 2015. Both appointments were unanimous. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Resolutions=104423=104354 On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Andreas Kolbe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The resolutions and voting records for these recent appointments have not yet been posted to https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions Could the page please be brought up to date? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
If it is true what is wroten thre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Arnnon_Geshuri ... then i think that Arnnon Geshuri schould be removed from the board ASAP. With best regards, > From: fae...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 09:31:38 + > To:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
(FYI) ... there is a discussion about Arnnon Geshuri at german signpost talkpage as well https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier#Das_neue_Kuratoriumsmittglied_Arnnon_Geshuri > From: steinsplitter-w...@live.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016

[Wikimedia-l] Appointment of proven anticompetitive hiring co-conspirator to Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2016-01-08 Thread James Salsman
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Arnnon_Geshuri >... > Arnnon Geshuri schould be removed from the board ASAP As someone who was personally affected by Google's and Apple's anticompetitive employment practices, I strongly agree that all those who were responsible for this appointment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandecic
James, all these things that you answered about - being out of process, disruption, ignoring advice - all of these were some of the things you explicitly apologized for just two weeks ago. Those were not my words, those are yours. Seeing you defend these, again, does this mean your apology was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee Arnnon Geshuri and part in anticompetitive agreements in Google

2016-01-08 Thread Kevin Gorman
I'm going to publicly second (or third, or fifth,) the idea that given Arnnon's role in an incident involving illegal anti-poaching agreements he should either be removed from the board with haste, or the board should publish an incredibly good reason as to why he should remain on it. Keep in