[Wikimedia-l] adding visual search for Wikipedia

[Tomás O'Hara]

Hi, here's a link to a proposal I have for adding visual search to
Wikipedia:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Use_visual_search_frontend_for_Wikipedia


(This was created with user ID: tomasohara
.) I can move it into a
better location if desired as it as not a "sister project" proper. The
Proposals
for new projects
 page doesn't
offer suggestions for alternative postings, so I left it there for now.

Below is a copy of the project overview. See the link above for details on
how this can be applied to foreign language wikipedias. Note that most can
be supported right "out of the box" except for the text categorization used
to select images for documents without images. A Wikipedia-specific way to
do this might be possible (e.g., based on the hierarchy of pages).

Best,
Tom

-

It would be good for Wikipedia to use a general-purpose visual search front
end. Note that a big incentive for this is that users will be drawn to
Wikipedia to use this type of search rather than Google Search or Bing.
This would be beneficial because these search engines often show Wikipedia
content for popular entities like sports stars or tourist attractions,
which cuts down on Wikipedia traffic.

You will be able to use the visual search frontend I developed without
charge for the duration of my patent in the works (a la license free). Here
is a link to an example with Wikipedia search on left and my Scrappy Search
on right:

http://www.scrappycito.com/wikipedia-vs-scrappy-search-small
-dog-breeds-en-wiki-site.png


Two other examples illustrate some added benefits of this visual search
with respect to Wikipedia. First, disambiguation becomes based on images
and keywords rather than just snippets of text. See the following:

http://www.scrappycito.com/wikipedia-vs-scrappy-search-bob-j
ones-en-wiki-site.png

In addition, links to other pages for the same entity become much more
engaging:

http://www.scrappycito.com/wikipedia-vs-scrappy-search-taylo
r-swift-en-wiki-site.png


See http://www.scrappycito.com for the stable version of the system and
http://www.tomasohara.trade:9330 for the work-in-progress version. The
latter has support for handheld devices and also better aesthetics (n.b.,
version used in examples).

I think this will be extremely popular with the Instagram crowd and younger
users in general (e.g., younger than 30). To do similar Wikipedia-specific
searches with the visual search front end, just add *site:en.wikipedia.org
* to the query*,* as in following example:

Lionel Messi  site:en.wikipedia.org

Scrappy Search uses the Google search API, so all of the search operators
 are supported.

The patent for this visual search will be owned by my company ScrappyCito,
LLC. If the company gets acquired, I will require that they honor the
license-free usage of the visual search system by Wikimedia for Wikipedia.
(They will likewise be required to pass along this license-free usage
requirement if they in turn are acquired). You will have access to the
current source code for use in Wikipedia and other approved projects.

I am doing this both for exposure and because I want to help keep Wikipedia
viable (e.g., by enabling higher traffic). This is a great way for users to
browse the encyclopedia, so it can keep users on the Wikipedia domain
longer.

If this sounds interesting, I can develop a prototype for the Simple
English Wikipedia for use on one of my servers. After review, I help with
the deployment for the regular English Wikipedia on your servers once
approved.

==
Tom O'Hara, founder ScrappyCito, LLC.  PO Box 6430
tomasoh...@gmail.com Austin, TX 78762-6430
737-203-1577   www.scrappycito.com
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hell NO!

We are not neutral and it will be a particular sad situation when we forget
what we are there for, what our objectives are only to "avoid compromising
the appearance of
the projects and the movement as neutral providers of information; to avoid
bad publicity; to avoid antagonizing governments or corporate interests; to
avoid compromising the Foundation's tax-exempt status; to avoid fragmenting
the resources and attention of the movement; to avoid creating divisions
within the projects and the movement that would make it more difficult for
volunteers to work together."

We just won a major victory in our battle to keep the internet free, an
internet where we can write our projects. A victory where one of our
opponents said "Wikipedia should be nationalised"; there is no neutral
ground for us. We have antagonised governments. Our Turkish Wikipedia and
other Wikipedias is not available in Turkey. Our established positions are
against corporate interests. And to be honest, when we lose our tax status
in the USA because of all this, we will make us even more money.

Our objectives, our reliance on a free internet, free software and free
licenses are an integral part of who we are. We will not squander it to
appease any two bit dictator.
Thanks,
   GerardM

On 7 July 2018 at 01:10, Benjamin Lees  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM, James Salsman  wrote:
> > Are there any specific reasons that the Foundation should remain
> > neutral on any topic, economic, political, or otherwise, which clearly
> > impacts the readership or community?
>
> Well, off the top of my head: to avoid compromising the appearance of
> the projects and the movement as neutral providers of information; to
> avoid bad publicity; to avoid antagonizing governments or corporate
> interests; to avoid compromising the Foundation's tax-exempt status;
> to avoid fragmenting the resources and attention of the movement; to
> avoid creating divisions within the projects and the movement that
> would make it more difficult for volunteers to work together.
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:01 AM, James Salsman  wrote:
> > I've spoken with perhaps fifty wikimedians over the past couple years,
> > and I simply do not believe that more than 20% could wish such ill
> > will on their peers.
>
> Let me be bold and suggest that around 99% of the people on this list
> disagree with the percentages you keep making up.
>
> Emufarmers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

[Alphos OGame]

Hello,

Mathieu, not only are you forum-shopping here as Maarten pointed out, you
are also consecutively trying one "what if" after the other instead of
providing an actual formal case against the CC0 license currently in effect
on Wikidata.
So far each of your individual arguments has been debunked :
- incompatibly licensed database imports (Nemo_bis [1] and Denny [2][3]
replied to that concern on May 14th on Phabricator ; same applies to
CC-BY-SA on Wikipedia : we get rid of incompatible stuff all the time)
- provenance and traceability of data (Maarten Dammers replied to that
concern on this email thread on July 4th ; licenses have nothing to do with
either of those things : references are there for that, and edit history
can help too)
- conflation of licensing of an entire text and facts stated within it -
which is pretty much one of the main purposes of Wikidata, or am I mistaken
? - (Martijn Hoekstra replied to that concern on this email thread on July
4th ; facts aren't long blobs of complicated text that are works of the
mind, although it could be a tad more complex when it comes to large
compilations of facts - but the definition of "large" is nowhere properly
determined)
On May 25th, you mentionned on Phabricator "discussing face to face with a
professional lawyer specialized on free licenses" [4]. She was supposed to
forward you "more information later". Has she done that ? Barring anything
new from her or any other lawyer, I see no reason whatsoever to keep going
on with that discussion which, so far, seems to only be able to determine
the morals and ethos of sticking to CC0, and not the actual legality of it.

However, I'd like to point out as an aside that in the process of your - so
far it seems purely intellectual - exercice, you have pushed Karima out of
a mailing list, which culminated in you asking from Wikimedia France that
all messages from all their mailing lists be immediately and irrevocably
made public "for total and absolute transparency and openness" as I recall
it, for the measly sake of this very argument. Your request was thankfully
denied on the basis of, if anything, privacy protection of their members.
Her message on May 4th on Phabricator [5] doesn't leave much to the
imagination that her leaving the Wikimedia France Wikidata mailing list and
your actions are directly related.

I suggest you either provide a strong legal argument (which is more than
"this thing and that stuff could happen", I mean something with actual
legal babble, including law and case law, with help from an actual lawyer)
or drop the splintered stick you hit that long-since dead horse with. And
whichever you choose, if you could stop bullying people to get your point
across, that'd be swell.

Thank you.

Roger / Alphos

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4204583
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4204771
[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4204779
[4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4231434
[5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4182444



2018-07-05 20:30 GMT+02:00 Yann Forget :

> Hi,
>
> 2018-07-04 12:50 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers :
>
> > Hi Mathieu,
> >
>
>
> > So I see you started forum shopping (trying to get the Wikimedia-l people
> > in) and making contentious trying to be funny remarks. That's usually a
> > good indication a thread is going nowhere.
> >
> > No, Wikidata is not going to change the CC0. You seem to be the only
> > person wanting that and trying to discredit Wikidata will not help you in
> > your crusade. I suggest the people who are still interested in this to go
> > to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728 and make useful comments
> > over there.
>
>
> I concur totally with analysis.
>
> Regards,
>
> Yann Forget
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

[Benjamin Lees]

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM, James Salsman  wrote:
> Are there any specific reasons that the Foundation should remain
> neutral on any topic, economic, political, or otherwise, which clearly
> impacts the readership or community?

Well, off the top of my head: to avoid compromising the appearance of
the projects and the movement as neutral providers of information; to
avoid bad publicity; to avoid antagonizing governments or corporate
interests; to avoid compromising the Foundation's tax-exempt status;
to avoid fragmenting the resources and attention of the movement; to
avoid creating divisions within the projects and the movement that
would make it more difficult for volunteers to work together.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:01 AM, James Salsman  wrote:
> I've spoken with perhaps fifty wikimedians over the past couple years,
> and I simply do not believe that more than 20% could wish such ill
> will on their peers.

Let me be bold and suggest that around 99% of the people on this list
disagree with the percentages you keep making up.

Emufarmers

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

[Dennis During]

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM, James Salsman  wrote:

> Lodewijk,
>
> I want to ask about something you wrote:
>
> >... Not taking a position is definitely not the same as
> > taking a 'neutral' position or holding the middle ground.
>
> Suppose for the sake of argument that there are two competing popular
> opinions, one of which is more true than another. If the opinions are
> noteworthy statements on notable subjects, then it is appropriate to
> describe both. In accepting the right to do so for others, isn't there
> a corresponding responsibility to describe which of the two reliable
> sources say is more true?
>

​If you are not concerned about the problem of hubris, perhaps not.​

>
> The point I am trying to make, is that those who view a lack of
> partisanship as a benefit are those who don't speak up when things are
> going wrong, and those people are hurting the people our Mission seeks
> to educate, and the people our Mission depends on to volunteer.
>

​Often, "educate" seems to mean propagandize., always equipped with the
paving stones of the road to hell.

Are there any specific reasons that the Foundation should remain
> neutral on any topic, economic, political, or otherwise, which clearly
> impacts the readership or community?


​What topics don't clearly impact some of the readership of community?​

This discussion seems to be framed almost entirely in idealism and
absolutes, entities that rarely seem to lead to practical solutions for a
society of diverse interests.

To the extent that we do have recourse to ideals and absolutes, they should
probably be limited to the core values which the movement has accepted from
the beginning.  That way this institution can be a vehicle for truth of the
factual variety, recognizing that even facts can be in legitimate dispute.


>
>


-- 
Dennis C. During
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

[James Salsman]

Lodewijk,

I want to ask about something you wrote:

>... Not taking a position is definitely not the same as
> taking a 'neutral' position or holding the middle ground.

Suppose for the sake of argument that there are two competing popular
opinions, one of which is more true than another. If the opinions are
noteworthy statements on notable subjects, then it is appropriate to
describe both. In accepting the right to do so for others, isn't there
a corresponding responsibility to describe which of the two reliable
sources say is more true?

The point I am trying to make, is that those who view a lack of
partisanship as a benefit are those who don't speak up when things are
going wrong, and those people are hurting the people our Mission seeks
to educate, and the people our Mission depends on to volunteer.

Are there any specific reasons that the Foundation should remain
neutral on any topic, economic, political, or otherwise, which clearly
impacts the readership or community?

Best regards,
Jim

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Research Showcase July 11, 2018 (11:30 AM PDT| 18:30 UTC)

[Sarah R]

Hi Everyone,

The next Wikimedia Research Showcase will be live-streamed Wednesday, July
11, 2018 at 11:30 AM (PDT) 18:30 UTC.

YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK7AvNKq0sg

As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. And,
you can watch our past research showcases here.


Hope to see you there!

This month's presentations:

Mind the (Language) Gap: Neural Generation of Multilingual Wikipedia
Summaries from Wikidata for ArticlePlaceholdersBy *Lucie-Aimée Kaffee*While
Wikipedia exists in 287 languages, its content is unevenly distributed
among them. It is therefore of the utmost social and cultural interests to
address languages for which native speakers have only access to an
impoverished Wikipedia. In this work, we investigate the generation of
summaries for Wikipedia articles in underserved languages, given structured
data as an input.
In order to address the information bias towards widely spoken languages,
we focus on an important support for such summaries: ArticlePlaceholders,
which are dynamically generated content pages in underserved Wikipedia
versions. They enable native speakers to access existing information in
Wikidata, a structured Knowledge Base (KB). Our system provides a
generative neural network architecture, which processes the triples of the
KB as they are dynamically provided by the ArticlePlaceholder, and generate
a comprehensible textual summary. This data-driven approach is tested with
the goal of understanding how well it matches the communities' needs on two
underserved languages on the Web: Arabic, a language with a big community
with disproportionate access to knowledge online, and Esperanto.
With the help of the Arabic and Esperanto Wikipedians, we conduct an
extended evaluation which exhibits not only the quality of the generated
text but also the applicability of our end-system to any underserved
Wikipedia version. Token-level change tracking: data, tools and
insightsBy *Fabian
Flöck*This talk first gives an overview of the WikiWho infrastructure,
which provides tracking of changes to single tokens (~words) in articles of
different Wikipedia language versions. It exposes APIs for accessing this
data in near-real time, and is complemented by a published static dataset.
Several insights are presented regarding provenance, partial reverts,
token-level conflict and other metrics that only become available with such
data. Lastly, the talk will cover several tools and scripts that are
already using the API and will discuss their application scenarios, such as
investigation of authorship, conflicted content and editor productivity.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] SPARQL tutorial video (2 hours)

[Rupika Sharma]

Thank You for sharing this!

Best,
Rupika Sharma
Co-Founder
Punjabi Wikimedians

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 4:21 PM Md. Ibrahim Husain  wrote:

> Thanks a lot it will be very helpful for me.
>
> Md. Ibrahim Husain
> Mobile: 01921 584733
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
> > Great. Many thanks for sharing.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tito Dutta
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> > me over email or phone call.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 16:14, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> >
> > > Hullo.
> > >
> > > I recently recorded a video of my 2-hour SPARQL tutorial.  It is better
> > > than the SPARQL section in my 3-hour Intro to Wikidata video from a
> > couple
> > > of years ago, and is easier to follow, with the query screen fed
> directly
> > > rather than through the video camera.
> > >
> > > It is now available here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querying_Wikidata_with_SPARQL_for_Absolute_Beginners.webm
> > >
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > >
> > >A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] SPARQL tutorial video (2 hours)

[Md. Ibrahim Husain]

Thanks a lot it will be very helpful for me.

Md. Ibrahim Husain
Mobile: 01921 584733



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> Great. Many thanks for sharing.
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
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> me over email or phone call.
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 16:14, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
> > Hullo.
> >
> > I recently recorded a video of my 2-hour SPARQL tutorial.  It is better
> > than the SPARQL section in my 3-hour Intro to Wikidata video from a
> couple
> > of years ago, and is easier to follow, with the query screen fed directly
> > rather than through the video camera.
> >
> > It is now available here:
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querying_Wikidata_with_SPARQL_for_Absolute_Beginners.webm
> >
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] SPARQL tutorial video (2 hours)

[Tito Dutta]

Great. Many thanks for sharing.

Thanks
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 16:14, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hullo.
>
> I recently recorded a video of my 2-hour SPARQL tutorial.  It is better
> than the SPARQL section in my 3-hour Intro to Wikidata video from a couple
> of years ago, and is easier to follow, with the query screen fed directly
> rather than through the video camera.
>
> It is now available here:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querying_Wikidata_with_SPARQL_for_Absolute_Beginners.webm
>
>
> Enjoy!
>
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[Wikimedia-l] SPARQL tutorial video (2 hours)

[Asaf Bartov]

Hullo.

I recently recorded a video of my 2-hour SPARQL tutorial.  It is better
than the SPARQL section in my 3-hour Intro to Wikidata video from a couple
of years ago, and is easier to follow, with the query screen fed directly
rather than through the video camera.

It is now available here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querying_Wikidata_with_SPARQL_for_Absolute_Beginners.webm


Enjoy!

   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4

[John Andersson]

Thank you WM RepublikaSrpska for sharing your report. Well done! I know
that it is a lot of work creating a report, but I find it to be a great
opportunity to reflect and learn. It is interesting for us other affiliates
to understand more about what you do. From my perspective you seem to have
a good mix of activities and I hope you will be able to scale even further
in the years to come. I must also say that I am impressed by the large
number of media mentions you've already managed to achieve.

Best,

John
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Wikimedia Sverige

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> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 23:17:50 +0600
> From: Tanweer Morshed 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of Wikimedia
> Community User Group Uganda
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> Congratulations to the Wikimedians from Uganda! All the best :)
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> Regards,
> Tanweer
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> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Sam Oyeyele  wrote:
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> > Congratulations to the Ugandan team. Welcome to the club! :)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 21:16:03 -0400
> From: Wikipedia Signpost 
> To: wikimediaannounce-l 
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost –
> Volume 14, Issue 7 – 29 June 2018
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> >From the editor: The Admin Ship is still barely afloat, while a Foundation
> project risks sinking
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/From_the_editor
>
> Special report: NPR and AfC – The Marshall Plan: an engagement and a
> marriage?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Special_report
>
> Op-ed: What do admins do?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2018-06-29/Op-ed
>
> Opinion: Google isn't responsible for Wikipedia's mistakes
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Opinion
>
> News and notes: Money, milestones, and Wikimania
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/News_and_notes
>
> In the media: Much wikilove from the Mayor of London, less from Paekākāriki
> or a certain candidate for U.S. Congress
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/In_the_media
>
> Discussion report: Deletion, page moves, and an update to the main page
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Discussion_report
>
> Featured content: New promotions
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Featured_content
>
> Arbitration report: WWII, UK politics, and a user deCrat'ed
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Arbitration_report
>
> Traffic report: Endgame
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Traffic_report
>
> Technology report: Improvements piled on more improvements
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/
> 2018-06-29/Tec