Hello, Mathieu, not only are you forum-shopping here as Maarten pointed out, you are also consecutively trying one "what if" after the other instead of providing an actual formal case against the CC0 license currently in effect on Wikidata. So far each of your individual arguments has been debunked : - incompatibly licensed database imports (Nemo_bis  and Denny  replied to that concern on May 14th on Phabricator ; same applies to CC-BY-SA on Wikipedia : we get rid of incompatible stuff all the time) - provenance and traceability of data (Maarten Dammers replied to that concern on this email thread on July 4th ; licenses have nothing to do with either of those things : references are there for that, and edit history can help too) - conflation of licensing of an entire text and facts stated within it - which is pretty much one of the main purposes of Wikidata, or am I mistaken ? - (Martijn Hoekstra replied to that concern on this email thread on July 4th ; facts aren't long blobs of complicated text that are works of the mind, although it could be a tad more complex when it comes to large compilations of facts - but the definition of "large" is nowhere properly determined) On May 25th, you mentionned on Phabricator "discussing face to face with a professional lawyer specialized on free licenses" . She was supposed to forward you "more information later". Has she done that ? Barring anything new from her or any other lawyer, I see no reason whatsoever to keep going on with that discussion which, so far, seems to only be able to determine the morals and ethos of sticking to CC0, and not the actual legality of it.
However, I'd like to point out as an aside that in the process of your - so far it seems purely intellectual - exercice, you have pushed Karima out of a mailing list, which culminated in you asking from Wikimedia France that all messages from all their mailing lists be immediately and irrevocably made public "for total and absolute transparency and openness" as I recall it, for the measly sake of this very argument. Your request was thankfully denied on the basis of, if anything, privacy protection of their members. Her message on May 4th on Phabricator  doesn't leave much to the imagination that her leaving the Wikimedia France Wikidata mailing list and your actions are directly related. I suggest you either provide a strong legal argument (which is more than "this thing and that stuff could happen", I mean something with actual legal babble, including law and case law, with help from an actual lawyer) or drop the splintered stick you hit that long-since dead horse with. And whichever you choose, if you could stop bullying people to get your point across, that'd be swell. Thank you. Roger / Alphos  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4204583  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4204771  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4204779  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4231434  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728#4182444 2018-07-05 20:30 GMT+02:00 Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > 2018-07-04 12:50 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers <maar...@mdammers.nl>: > > > Hi Mathieu, > > > > > > So I see you started forum shopping (trying to get the Wikimedia-l people > > in) and making contentious trying to be funny remarks. That's usually a > > good indication a thread is going nowhere. > > > > No, Wikidata is not going to change the CC0. You seem to be the only > > person wanting that and trying to discredit Wikidata will not help you in > > your crusade. I suggest the people who are still interested in this to go > > to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728 and make useful comments > > over there. > > > I concur totally with analysis. > > Regards, > > Yann Forget > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>