Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing stress and friction in interactions between WMF, affiliates, and community

[Pine W]

I like the idea of more transparency, and I think that opening processes
can often help to reduce surprises and increase the quality of decisions.

I wonder whether a reason that people hide information, including drafts
and plans, is that they are afraid that if they share information then
someone will criticize them bluntly for perceived shortcomings.

I think that some courage is necessary to publish work while knowing that
the work may be criticized. Public speaking is a common fear, and I wonder
whether we should do more to encourage people and to train people how to
present in public even when there is a risk of criticism. I have drafted
some additional comments regarding this point that I may share later.

At the same time, I understand that the level of frustration in the
Wikiverse can be high, and it's easy to snap at someone else who may be
generally competent and have had good intentions when they share something,
make a comment, or ask a question. (My guess is that if I review my own
emails then I will find a few emails that I wish that I had worded
differently.)

I also wonder if, collectively, we should work on improving our listening
and one on one conversation skills. By listening I do not necessarily mean
"create a survey and obtain analytics", although surveys and analytics can
be useful tools. Listening includes hearing comments that are unpleasant,
and hearing criticism that may be delivered coldly. Listening may
difficult, but my guess is that improving our collective listening skills
would decrease the average level of stress and frustration in the
Wikiverse. People who feel heard and are given a chance to shape decisions,
in my experience, sometimes become more understanding and accepting, while
people who feel ignored may also feel frustrated and resentful.

Regarding WMF specifically, I think that some teams in WMF do a good job of
listening, while others seem to regard listening as something that is best
done exclusively through surveys and analytics. I think that surveys and
analytics can be good, but also that one on one conversations are often
necessary for enriching mutual understanding, for the greatest chance of
producing good outcomes, and for decreasing the average level of
frustration and stress in our shared environment.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reducing stress and friction in interactions between WMF, affiliates, and community

[Paulo Santos Perneta]

More transparency from the side of the WMF (and often, from affiliates as
well) seems like a good way of considerably reducing mistrust, stress and
friction between the Wikimedia communities, affiliates and the WMF. The
fact is that more than often the WMF seem to be at odds with the principles
of transparency and accountability that generally rule our Wikimedia
communities (for the worst and for the better). Take that paradigm of
obscurity that AffCom has become in the last years, for instance - without
any hint it would change (quite the opposite, indeed). Also, when people
know about the WMF (and a LOT of people in the projects do not have any
idea it even exists, let alone in the civil society that surrounds us),
often it is not for the good reasons. I would say the WMF is in dire need
of an efficient PR operation, specially on the points of contact between
itself and affiliates (such AffCom) and the communities.

Best,
Paulo - darwIn
Wikimedia Portugal


Pine W  escreveu no dia sexta, 22/02/2019 à(s) 19:01:

> Hi,
>
> Recent events have brought to mind the recurring challenges of stress and
> friction in the Wikiverse that can happen in interactions, or lack of
> interactions, between WMF, affiliates, and community members.
>
> I realize that some friction is inevitable, but the feeling that I get is
> that the levels of stress regarding these interactions are, on average,
> fairly high.
>
> This stress can happen on both sides. My understanding is that some staff
> are afraid to communicate in public because they worry about making people
> angry for unpredictable reasons. Affiliates and community people may feel
> frustrated or ignored.
>
> For me, this situation is painful and frustrating, and I'm currently
> feeling worn by the friction of our groups.
>
> The Wikiverse will probably always have a some friction, and some of that
> friction may lead to insightful conversations and good refinement of ideas,
> but the average level of WMF-affiliate-community friction feels high.
>
> I'm not saying that there should be no conflicts or no difficult
> conversations. Sometimes I think that being frank is the best thing to do,
> and a high level of stress is difficult to avoid in certain situations.
> However, I would like for the average level of stress and friction in our
> interactions to be more moderate. I would like for staff to feel generally
> okay regarding communicating in public, and I would like for affiliates and
> community members (in which I include myself) to feel less pain.
>
> I think that the mission to share verifiable and reliable knowledge with
> the world is amazing, and I'm grateful that we do this. However, the stress
> level regarding WMF-affiliate-community interactions feels high in a way
> that I think that this is a problem. Maybe a question to ask about our
> interactions is, "How can improve the quality of our interactions in a way
> that is generally beneficial for all groups and beneficial for our common
> goals?"
>
> Would anyone like to make suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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[Wikimedia-l] Reducing stress and friction in interactions between WMF, affiliates, and community

[Pine W]

Hi,

Recent events have brought to mind the recurring challenges of stress and
friction in the Wikiverse that can happen in interactions, or lack of
interactions, between WMF, affiliates, and community members.

I realize that some friction is inevitable, but the feeling that I get is
that the levels of stress regarding these interactions are, on average,
fairly high.

This stress can happen on both sides. My understanding is that some staff
are afraid to communicate in public because they worry about making people
angry for unpredictable reasons. Affiliates and community people may feel
frustrated or ignored.

For me, this situation is painful and frustrating, and I'm currently
feeling worn by the friction of our groups.

The Wikiverse will probably always have a some friction, and some of that
friction may lead to insightful conversations and good refinement of ideas,
but the average level of WMF-affiliate-community friction feels high.

I'm not saying that there should be no conflicts or no difficult
conversations. Sometimes I think that being frank is the best thing to do,
and a high level of stress is difficult to avoid in certain situations.
However, I would like for the average level of stress and friction in our
interactions to be more moderate. I would like for staff to feel generally
okay regarding communicating in public, and I would like for affiliates and
community members (in which I include myself) to feel less pain.

I think that the mission to share verifiable and reliable knowledge with
the world is amazing, and I'm grateful that we do this. However, the stress
level regarding WMF-affiliate-community interactions feels high in a way
that I think that this is a problem. Maybe a question to ask about our
interactions is, "How can improve the quality of our interactions in a way
that is generally beneficial for all groups and beneficial for our common
goals?"

Would anyone like to make suggestions?

Thanks,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Impact study WMFr 2018

[Rémy Gerbet]

Hello Thierry,

The French version is also present on the same page on Commons. It is the
version dated February 7.

Friendly,

La version en français est également disponible sur la même page. Il s'agit
de la version du document daté du 7 février.

Amicalement,


*Gerbet Rémy*

*Coordinateur opérationnel/Operational coordinator **07 84 37 91 04*
*---**-*

*WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance
*www.wikimedia.fr  *
*40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*



*[image: File:Campagne 2018 Faites un don.jpg]
*


Le ven. 22 févr. 2019 à 17:07, Thierry Coudray  a
écrit :

> Rémy,
>
> Serait-il possible aussi de mettre la version originale en français sur
> Commons ? Histoire de permettre une plus grande diffusion et de ne pas
> accentuer l'anglo-centrisme de Wikimédia.  :)
> Merci.
>
> Could it be possible to upload the French original version on Commons ? So
> we can have a wider diffusion and not enlarge the English speaking bias of
> Wikimedia.  :)
> Thanks
>
> Thierry
>
>
> Le ven. 22 févr. 2019 à 10:39, Rémy Gerbet  a
> écrit :
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > In 2018, Wikimedia France has experienced a significant restructuring
> phase
> > with a new turnover with a new Board and a new organization of the
> salaried
> > team following the unfortunate events that occurred in 2017.
> >
> > In this context, Wikimedia France has requested the expertise of an
> agency
> > specialized in impact study to review our indicators and to better value
> > the impact of our activities. This agency, called Agence phare, worked
> with
> > many associative actors and seemed to quickly understand the issues
> > specific to our movement.. n the spirit of sharing dear to our movement,
> I
> > am sending you today the final report
> > <
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%89tude_d%27impact_de_l%27Agence_Phare_2018.pdf
> > >
> > prepared by this agency which we had translated into English.
> >
> > Maybe, it will interest some of you.
> >
> > I am at your disposal if you have any questions.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > *Gerbet Rémy*
> >
> > *Coordinateur opérationnel/Operational coordinator **07 84 37 91 04*
> > *---**-*
> >
> > *WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance
> > *www.wikimedia.fr  *
> > *40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*
> > 
> >
> >
> > *[image: File:Campagne 2018 Faites un don.jpg]
> > *
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Impact study WMFr 2018

[Thierry Coudray]

Rémy,

Serait-il possible aussi de mettre la version originale en français sur
Commons ? Histoire de permettre une plus grande diffusion et de ne pas
accentuer l'anglo-centrisme de Wikimédia.  :)
Merci.

Could it be possible to upload the French original version on Commons ? So
we can have a wider diffusion and not enlarge the English speaking bias of
Wikimedia.  :)
Thanks

Thierry


Le ven. 22 févr. 2019 à 10:39, Rémy Gerbet  a
écrit :

> Hello,
>
> In 2018, Wikimedia France has experienced a significant restructuring phase
> with a new turnover with a new Board and a new organization of the salaried
> team following the unfortunate events that occurred in 2017.
>
> In this context, Wikimedia France has requested the expertise of an agency
> specialized in impact study to review our indicators and to better value
> the impact of our activities. This agency, called Agence phare, worked with
> many associative actors and seemed to quickly understand the issues
> specific to our movement.. n the spirit of sharing dear to our movement, I
> am sending you today the final report
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%89tude_d%27impact_de_l%27Agence_Phare_2018.pdf
> >
> prepared by this agency which we had translated into English.
>
> Maybe, it will interest some of you.
>
> I am at your disposal if you have any questions.
>
> Best,
>
>
> *Gerbet Rémy*
>
> *Coordinateur opérationnel/Operational coordinator **07 84 37 91 04*
> *---**-*
>
> *WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance
> *www.wikimedia.fr  *
> *40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*
> 
>
>
> *[image: File:Campagne 2018 Faites un don.jpg]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

[Peter Southwood]

Those instances where we don’t know yet whether the information would be 
acceptable in any of our projects, as the decision is generally made by 
consensus, and consensus can change and can vary between projects. Edge cases 
are not easily predictable. Also it is possible that new projects may accept 
information unsuitable for existing projects.
Cheers,
Peter

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Hi Peter,

Could you please give an example of the instances that it wouldn't predict
well?

Regards,
Micru

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 10:44 Peter Southwood, 
wrote:

> That would be a fair operational definition in our context, but it does
> not predict well for all instances.
> Cheers
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Amir E. Aharoni
> Sent: 22 February 2019 10:39
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
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>
> ‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 22 בפבר׳ 2019 ב-10:30 מאת ‪David Cuenca Tudela‬‏ <‪
> dacu...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬
>
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What is our definition of knowledge?
> > >
> >
> > In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that
> > the Wikimedia community allows into their projects.
> >
>
> OK, that makes sense. It can even be formal :)
>
> Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our
> definition of knowledge is?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Iberoconf 2019 - Declaration of Santiago regarding affiliates' rights and responsabilities

[Risker]

Thank you very much for bringing this to the attention of the broader
community, Osmar.  I will note that the gist of this statement was recently
discussed by the Roles & Responsibilities Strategy Working Group[1] and we
noted that it reflects and expands upon several points we had found during
our research.  We will take these points into consideration as we develop
our recommendations.

Risker/Anne
(As a member of the R&R Strategy Working Group)

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Roles_%26_Responsibilities

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 20:43, Osmar Valdebenito 
wrote:

> Hello friends,
>
> I would like to share with you the declaration made by most of the
> participants in the last Iberoconf meeting in Santiago, hosted by Wikimedia
> Chile between February 8-10th. The meeting had representatives of 13
> affiliates from Ibero America and Italy, plus Wikimedia Foundation staff
> members, two members of the BoT of the WMF and other guests.
>
> The "Declaration of Santiago" (in Spanish: Carta de Santiago) is a
> statement made by Iberocoop members regarding to rights and
> responsabilities between different affiliates (chapters and user groups)
> and the current rules regarding their formation. The statement is the
> result of the discussion after long formal and informal discussions between
> us.
>
> English:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2019/Carta_de_Santiago
> Spanish:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2019/Carta_de_Santiago/es
>
> Kind regards,
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Iberoconf 2019 - Declaration of Santiago regarding affiliates' rights and responsabilities

[Paulo Santos Perneta]

A Portuguese version is also available now:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2019/Carta_de_Santiago/pt

Paulo

Osmar Valdebenito  escreveu no dia sexta,
22/02/2019 à(s) 01:43:

> Hello friends,
>
> I would like to share with you the declaration made by most of the
> participants in the last Iberoconf meeting in Santiago, hosted by Wikimedia
> Chile between February 8-10th. The meeting had representatives of 13
> affiliates from Ibero America and Italy, plus Wikimedia Foundation staff
> members, two members of the BoT of the WMF and other guests.
>
> The "Declaration of Santiago" (in Spanish: Carta de Santiago) is a
> statement made by Iberocoop members regarding to rights and
> responsabilities between different affiliates (chapters and user groups)
> and the current rules regarding their formation. The statement is the
> result of the discussion after long formal and informal discussions between
> us.
>
> English:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2019/Carta_de_Santiago
> Spanish:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2019/Carta_de_Santiago/es
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Osmar Valdebenito G.
> Wikimedia Chile trustee
> Iberoconf 2019 organizer
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

[David Cuenca Tudela]

Hi Peter,

Could you please give an example of the instances that it wouldn't predict
well?

Regards,
Micru

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 10:44 Peter Southwood, 
wrote:

> That would be a fair operational definition in our context, but it does
> not predict well for all instances.
> Cheers
> Peter
>
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> Behalf Of Amir E. Aharoni
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>
> ‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 22 בפבר׳ 2019 ב-10:30 מאת ‪David Cuenca Tudela‬‏ <‪
> dacu...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬
>
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What is our definition of knowledge?
> > >
> >
> > In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that
> > the Wikimedia community allows into their projects.
> >
>
> OK, that makes sense. It can even be formal :)
>
> Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our
> definition of knowledge is?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

[David Cuenca Tudela]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:52 AM Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our
> definition of knowledge is?


I guess I can make them aware of it from now on :-)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

[Peter Southwood]

That would be a fair operational definition in our context, but it does not 
predict well for all instances.
Cheers
Peter

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‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 22 בפבר׳ 2019 ב-10:30 מאת ‪David Cuenca Tudela‬‏ <‪
dacu...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, 
> wrote:
>
> > What is our definition of knowledge?
> >
>
> In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that
> the Wikimedia community allows into their projects.
>

OK, that makes sense. It can even be formal :)

Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our
definition of knowledge is?

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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Impact study WMFr 2018

[Rémy Gerbet]

Hello,

In 2018, Wikimedia France has experienced a significant restructuring phase
with a new turnover with a new Board and a new organization of the salaried
team following the unfortunate events that occurred in 2017.

In this context, Wikimedia France has requested the expertise of an agency
specialized in impact study to review our indicators and to better value
the impact of our activities. This agency, called Agence phare, worked with
many associative actors and seemed to quickly understand the issues
specific to our movement.. n the spirit of sharing dear to our movement, I
am sending you today the final report

prepared by this agency which we had translated into English.

Maybe, it will interest some of you.

I am at your disposal if you have any questions.

Best,


*Gerbet Rémy*

*Coordinateur opérationnel/Operational coordinator **07 84 37 91 04*
*---**-*

*WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance
*www.wikimedia.fr  *
*40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiGap 2019

[Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l]

Thanks for sharing this Mia!  Îm really glad to read that it can be an ongoing 
project and not just an equality token on March, 8. 

I have a question: do you have a budget for transportation for people who want 
to attend and babysitting facilities? 
Could it be possible for organizers to get a volunteering certificate from the 
sweedish embassy as a  kind of aknowledgement of the work done? 

Thank you for your commitment on these issues!

Kind regards,

Natacha / Nattes à chat 

> Le 21 févr. 2019 à 16:19, Mia Jacobsson  a écrit :
> 
> WikiGap 8 March 2019
> 
> 
> WikiGap is an initiative taken to close the gender gap and other gaps
> relevant for diversity of Wikipedia. The initiative is made possible by a
> cooperation between Wikimedia Sverige, the Swedish Ministry for Foreign
> Affairs, Swedish embassies and Wikimedia affiliates, volunteers and local
> organizations around the world. WikiGap was first organized in March 2018
> and now we would like to do it again. We are planning to organize several
> Wikipedia edit-a-thons during 8 March 2019. The purpose of the edit-a-thons
> is to create more articles about women to achieve a more gender-equal
> Internet – and a more gender-equal world and by doing so reduce the gender
> gap a bit.
> 
> The 8 March is just the starting point of the campaign. If the embassy,
> your local partner and you finds a better date to cooperate and implement a
> WikiGap event during 2019 then that also works.
> 
> Main page on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap
> 
> The background to WikiGap 2019
> 
> The initiative started in March 2017 with a sister edit-a-thon in four
> languages between the Swedish embassy in New Delhi and Stockholm
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India-Sweden_edit-a-thon.
> 
> During 2017 the Swedish embassies in Pretoria and Washington DC also
> successfully hosted Wikipedia edit-a-thons with Wikimedia chapters. In 2018
> The Ministry of Foreign Affairs wanted to increase outreach and the number
> of partnering Wikimedia affiliates and we decided to implement WikiGap 2018
> together.
> 
> Together with the Ministry we have developed a toolkit for how embassies
> should organise Wikipedia edit-a-thons, and they are committed to surfacing
> the achievements of women in the world’s largest encyclopedia, in
> partnership with Wikimedia affiliates and other local organisations.
> 
> Changes from previous year
> 
> This year we’re also going to have an online-competition which is called
> the WikiGap Challenge during the first month of WikiGap.
> 
> The WikiGap Challenge is an attempt to connect the individual events with
> each other. It is also a possibility for the organizing Wikimedia
> organizations and volunteers to highlight important women from their
> context that they believe deserve articles on multiple languages.
> 
> More information about the contest will be shared with local organizers
> shortly
> 
> and on the WikiGap Campaign portal on Meta.
> 
> 
> How you can join?
> 
> The WikiGap invites broad and diverse participation, just like last year,
> and allows for local adaptations to the theme. If you think that you have
> an interest in taking part of WikiGap but have any questions about the
> implementation you can either contact the Swedish embassy in your country,
> they have all the material that you need to make this event a success, or
> you can send me a question – I’m more than happy to help you sort out some
> question marks.I will be out of office February 25 to March 4 so please
> send a copy of your request to i...@wikimedia.se and someone at the office
> will get back to you as soon as possible.
> 
> If you don’t think that you will be the main organizer of WikiGap in your
> country or if you are a part of a larger team, I, as part of coordinating
> the WikiGap, would like you to please help share this information with the
> right individuals.
> 
> Are you interested in taking part of WikiGap 2019?
> 
> Please send me an email to confirm your interest. At the WikiGap portal
>  on Meta you can find a list of
> WikiGap events . Use this
> space to find events and share details of your own WikiGap event, such as
> user name of the organizer(s), your local theme and if you’re merging the
> event with other wiki initiatives.
> 
> Here you will find some more information about WikiGap:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap/Events
> 
> Join WikiGap on Programs & Events Dashboard to show impact
> 
> We also have a WikiGap campaign 2019
> 
> up on Programs & Events dashboard
>  to
> facilitate running and keeping track of all events on various language
> version. Please go in there and register your event as soon as possible.
> 
> Please help us spread the word about WikiGap.
> 
> Best Regar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

[Amir E. Aharoni]

‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 22 בפבר׳ 2019 ב-10:30 מאת ‪David Cuenca Tudela‬‏ <‪
dacu...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, 
> wrote:
>
> > What is our definition of knowledge?
> >
>
> In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that
> the Wikimedia community allows into their projects.
>

OK, that makes sense. It can even be formal :)

Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our
definition of knowledge is?

--
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

[David Cuenca Tudela]

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, 
wrote:

> What is our definition of knowledge?
>

In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that
the Wikimedia community allows into their projects.

Regards,
Micru

>
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