Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Wikipedians to add already translated articles

2013-09-02 Thread Rui Correia
Hi James I went to the page and I see that most of the Portuguese articles have "To evaluate" next to them. About "To evaluate" is says the following: Article needs to be evaluated by a Wikipedian in that language ***to determine if translation is needed. The article on schizophrenia, for ex

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Their orders would be classified; disclosure of them would be a crime. > Not a problem for us, but a big problem for staff on the ground in China. Indeed, I believe it may even be outright life threatening to have strong connection to WMF Chi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > But as far as I know, the U.S. government has never blocked the general > public from accessing a Wikipedia article, nor have they sent a takedown > that was based on ideology/"social harmony"/etc. Instead they use "terrorism" (or really

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Wikipedians to add already translated articles

2013-09-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
For work of broader interest: have you read/commented https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation and volunteered at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1yCvPS65eWk9S8uXkksAbDbLsbZQd0ISQKBDFfJnSSo0/viewform and/or told translators to)? Translation on Wikimedia projects is what we'd call a kar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 09/02/2013 06:17 PM, Tim Starling wrote: It would allow WMF to monitor censorship and surveillance by being in the request loop. There's no guarantee they would accept HTTPS, even if there were still user surveillance inside the data center. > It would be kind of like the cooperation we g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding programs for individuals.

2013-09-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jean-Frédéric, 01/09/2013 15:58: Hi folks, While watching the current changes to Wikimedia France microgrants program implemented, I was curious to know which Wikimedia entities had similar funding programs for individuals - how they worked, how we could learn form each other. Since apparently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread FT2
There are many very sane comments in this thread. I agree with most of them - - Network encryption is important as one aspect; - "Local" threats and "digging dirt" are an important realistic threat (far more people are of interest to *THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES* vs nationally, or open to s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Fred Bauder
> On 31/08/13 15:17, Erik Moeller wrote: >> It could be argued >> that it’s time to draw a line in the sand - if you’re prohibiting >> the >> use of encryption, you’re effectively not part of the web. You’re >> subverting basic web technologies. > > China is not prohibiting encryption. They

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, HEAR HEAR !! Thanks, Gerard On 3 September 2013 00:17, Tim Starling wrote: > On 31/08/13 15:17, Erik Moeller wrote: > > It could be argued > > that it’s time to draw a line in the sand - if you’re prohibiting the > > use of encryption, you’re effectively not part of the web. You’re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Tim Starling
On 31/08/13 15:17, Erik Moeller wrote: > It could be argued > that it’s time to draw a line in the sand - if you’re prohibiting the > use of encryption, you’re effectively not part of the web. You’re > subverting basic web technologies. China is not prohibiting encryption. They're prohibiting spec

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Thanks for the love!

2013-09-02 Thread Deryck Chan
A few months ago, I wrote that I plan to retire from all my Wikimedia positions after Wikimania. Now Wikimania is almost a month ago and I've moved on to a new job IRL, I think it's time for me to unsubscribe from most of the mailing lists. Thanks for the love over the last 3 years. I'll stay subs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status Botgeneration of articles on sv:wp

2013-09-02 Thread PiRSquared17
On 9/1/13, Anders Wennersten wrote: > Are there other experiences that can be shared or is there a metapage or > does it exist a maillist more dedicated to discuss these issues? (it is > close to wikidata issues but it is not about the technicaliites of > Wikidata hut more about how to implement u

[Wikimedia-l] Revived Sister Projects Committee proposal

2013-09-02 Thread PiRSquared17
Hello! I think many of you will be interested in reviving this proposal. I believe there is still a great desire (and need) for a more organized system of dealing with new sister project proposals and proposals for closing sister projects. Please also consider continuing the discussion on Meta. ht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Victor Grigas
I think that we should make a policy of https by default and grandfather-in (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause) exceptions to Iran and PRC, reason being that 1. We should not exclude whole groups of existing Wikipedians simply because of the government they happen to live within th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Momvent: Policy Topics and Priorities Questionnaire

2013-09-02 Thread Sophie Österberg
Thank you Dimi! I'll fill it out straight away. I appreciate the initiative! / sophie 2013/9/2 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov > tl;dr > Help us decide which policy issues are important to Wikimedia by filling > out a questionnaire [1] > > Hello everybody, > > Wikimania and most people's summer holi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 09/02/2013 12:08 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > What information, exactly, are we trying to prevent > governments from getting ahold of? There are three such things, in (my personal) order of importance: 1) credentials, especially those of editors that have rights allowing further privacy encroachment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: >So, what to do? My main suggestion is to organize a broad request for >comments and input on possible paths forward. I think we’re doing the >right thing by initially implementing these exemptions -- but I do >think this decision needs to finally rest with the Board of the >Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] State of the Map 2013 - OSM conference in Birmingham, England.

2013-09-02 Thread Jon Davies
Thanks for doing this Andy. On 30 August 2013 21:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 30 August 2013 12:48, Richard Nevell > wrote: > > Andy, about 230 flyers are in the post and on their way to you. > > Thank you. The organisers have kindly agreed to include them in the > delegate packs (which I'll b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There are three groups to consider, readers, contributors without and contributors with specific rights that allow them access to data which is not publicly visible anyway: For readers: Readers will not have reduced access to knowledge. I think that runs against our mission. There are a number of

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] WMNL in July and August

2013-09-02 Thread Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland
If you want to find out what WM-Nederland did this summer, go to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201307 The report is also included as plain text in this message COMMUNITY: supporting and mobilising volunteers and editors Wikipedia Café. WMNL rev

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: New Open Access mailing list

2013-09-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
[sorry for cross posting] Hi all, I just wanted to announce that there is right now a brand new wikimedia mailing list dedicated to Open Access. You can subscribe here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess As there are quite a few projects running between the Open Access world

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Momvent: Policy Topics and Priorities Questionnaire

2013-09-02 Thread Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
tl;dr Help us decide which policy issues are important to Wikimedia by filling out a questionnaire [1] Hello everybody, Wikimania and most people's summer holidays are over, in Brussels bureaucrats are slowly retunring to work and it is time for us to step up our activity. This being said, there