[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2015 Bids to host are in

2014-03-21 Thread Asaf Bartov
:) -- Forwarded message -- From: Ellie Young Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:13 PM Subject: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2015 Bids to host are in To: open subscription This is to let the community know that the deadline for receiving bids to host Wikimania in 2015 has passed. There ar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Russavia
Erik, As you are in contact with Sandole, can you please ask him to fix the article in his report to AirLand Battle, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AirLand_Battle&diff=515849256&oldid=510840175-- he has written AirSea Battle, and this is obviously not correct. But I guess it goe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Russavia
Thanks Erik for your email which was full of spin, and which will be discussed later. But for now, I need to present something that needs clarification from Timothy. In reference to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Timothy_Sandole_-_Belfer_Center_Report.pdf On Page 2 of his report he stat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Erik Moeller, 21/03/2014 08:37: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Fæ wrote: Eric, in this thread you are officially speaking for the WMF. Does the WMF really want to say it is "ethical" to have different accountability rules for funding organizations that want to use the Wikimedia brand because

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Anders Wennersten
Thanks Erik for this clear and, as far as I can see, rather comprehensive report There will always be mistakes done, both from us as individuals and as organizations. Critical, though, is that we treat these mistakes with openness and tranparancies and that we learn from our mistakes In my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, I've just met with Lisa Gruwell and Sara Lasner about it to get more of a debrief of the situation. For the purpose of clarity, I'm looking into this on Sue's behalf while she's traveling; she should be able to look into it next week. As noted previously, this isn't a project I was previou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread ENWP Pine
Russiavia, thanks for your efforts to make a comprehensive report. It's certainly worth reading, although I am refraining from personally reaching major conclusions until after we have heard more details from WMF. Regarding Timothy Sandole's qualifications for the job, he could have been an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amical Wikimedia Report, February 2014

2014-03-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks David, this is really lovely as usual. SJ On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:41 PM, David Parreño Mont - Comunicació wrote: > Dear fellows, > > The following message is just to keep you informed about the activities > developed in February by Amical Wikimedia. > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/A

[Wikimedia-l] Amical Wikimedia Report, February 2014

2014-03-21 Thread David Parreño Mont - Comunicació
Dear fellows, The following message is just to keep you informed about the activities developed in February by Amical Wikimedia. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia/February_2014 Kind regards, David Parreño Mont User:Davidpar Communications, Amical Wikimedia *Source:* https:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Belfer report - analysis from Russavia

2014-03-21 Thread
Russavia, Thank you for compiling this analysis. In particular the credible sources you have put together should make the Wikimedia Foundation's review a lot easier. I was particularly interested in the role of WMF Fundraising in this project. I look forward to soon being able to compare this wit

[Wikimedia-l] Belfer report - analysis from Russavia

2014-03-21 Thread Russavia
After reading Tomasz's (Odder) blog post[1] on the Wikipedian-in-Residence (WiR) at Harvard in 2012 and in response to Fae's and Pine's questions to the WMF on this list, I thought I would post my thoughts/report on this issue, as it touches on a few areas of which I have both professional (HRM and

[Wikimedia-l] Apology from Fae // was Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread
On 21 March 2014 08:20, Erik Moeller wrote: ... > Just after talking about "stomping down with its hobnail boots on > Wikimedia UK", huh? :-) I'm sorry to have offended your delicate... I apologise for the "hobnail boots" comment, it was unnecessarily dramatic. This is a slight tangent, but for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread
On 21 March 2014 11:31, Nathan wrote: ... > it seems to have been the Belfer > Center directing his actions and not the WMF. If Sandole is a reliable source for his employment during 2012-13, then we must take into account his recent statement which indicates that the WMF had some defined respons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: > Erik Moeller wrote: > > You tend to add a drama factor of 10x to any discussion I've ever seen >> you participate in, and it gets tiresome after a while. Give it a >> rest. >> > > Why are you making this issue unnecessarily personal,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Tomasz W. Kozlowski
Erik Moeller wrote: You tend to add a drama factor of 10x to any discussion I've ever seen you participate in, and it gets tiresome after a while. Give it a rest. Why are you making this issue unnecessarily personal, Erik? This isn't about Fae, you, or even Timothy Sandole -- so give it a res

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Bence Damokos
Thanks Erik, for looking into it constructively. Looking forward to the report and the learnings from the assessment. Best regards, Bence On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Fæ wrote: > > > Eric, in this thread you are officially speaking f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Fæ wrote: > Erik, you are a senior manager within the WMF. If you cannot resist > offensive schoolboy sarcasm in your responses Just after talking about "stomping down with its hobnail boots on Wikimedia UK", huh? :-) I'm sorry to have offended your delicate sensi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread
On 21 March 2014 07:37, Erik Moeller wrote: ... > needed, to fully expose Harvard's evil agenda and the secret workings > of the reptilian order which most WMF senior staff are part of. ... Erik, you are a senior manager within the WMF. If you cannot resist offensive schoolboy sarcasm in your res

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Russavia
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > [3] Contributions welcome, and I hope we can avoid personalizing > things as I'm sure Timothy worked in good faith and did his best to > meet the expectations of the project. :) On this I do agree, that Sandole was used as a tool by Stanton/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Fæ wrote: > Eric, in this thread you are officially speaking for the WMF. Does the > WMF really want to say it is "ethical" to have different > accountability rules for funding organizations that want to use the > Wikimedia brand because there are different rules

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jan-Bart de Vreede, 20/03/2014 18:49: work for the Wikimedia Foundation. Your email (and Fae’s) seems to imply that they work directly for you, which is of course not the case (because they really only need one person to be their manager Nice one, can be reused with profit. Next time someone