Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Setting ticket prices

2014-03-25 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:19 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > James, > > In the past you have supported a hardline position regarding > publishing of private correspondence, and in circumstances when the > reasons for publishing the private correspondence were of greater > importance to the commu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet rights approved in Brazil

2014-03-25 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Humm let's wait until the bill become a *law*. This is an important step, but we still need a lot of work here. When our access to information law [1] were approved by the chamber of deputies, its bill got stuck in the senate for a looong time. It was really, really hard to have any civil soc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet rights approved in Brazil

2014-03-25 Thread Victor Grigas
Yaho! > On Mar 25, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Oona Castro wrote: > > Hello all! > > Subject is not 100% related to Wikimedia, but definitely important for the > future of projects like ours. > > Marco civil da Internet (the Brazilian internet civil rights bill) has just > been approved by the Brazi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread Samuel Klein
James, you are confusing everyone. The WMF does not currently engage in advocacy of that form, except in support of strong support for a particular position by the community. If you want to see that change, please discuss it with community groups or the board, not WMF staff. You are welcome to dev

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-25 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
See the graphs for 5+ editors here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaZZ.htm It is wikinews that has been loosing contributors since mid 2008, and new ar

[Wikimedia-l] is Wikiquote in decline or just stagnant

2014-03-25 Thread James Salsman
Which of the two contradictory colorings on http://infodisiac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UniqueActiveEditorsOnSmallProjects-Decline.png is correct? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread MZMcBride
Anders Wennersten wrote: >The discussion on the proposed amendment is now closed [1) and it is up >to the Board will review the community comments. And with almost 5,000 >edits in the discussion - with more than 2,000 editors and 320,000 words >in various languages and with very different opinions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet rights approved in Brazil

2014-03-25 Thread Asaf Bartov
Excellent! \o/ A. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Oona Castro wrote: > Hello all! > > Subject is not 100% related to Wikimedia, but definitely important for the > future of projects like ours. > > Marco civil da Internet (the Brazilian internet civil rights bill) has just > been approved b

[Wikimedia-l] Internet rights approved in Brazil

2014-03-25 Thread Oona Castro
Hello all! Subject is not 100% related to Wikimedia, but definitely important for the future of projects like ours. Marco civil da Internet (the Brazilian internet civil rights bill) has just been approved by the Brazilian Congress

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread James Salsman
Hi Sue, Since you announced your departure, to whom have you delegated the responsibility of insuring that Foundation advocacy is aligned with the interests of Foundation volunteers, if anyone? Do you support statistical sampling using a method such as at http://www.allourideas.org/wmfcsdraft to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 03/25/2014 07:45 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > If nothing else, the existing community quality rating system (i.e. FA, GA, > etc.) should be used. That idea needs to be tempered with a strong caveat: at least for enwiki, those processes tend to be highly politized as they are already. Focu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Handy link for background: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Quality (quite old and outdated now, but still good). *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
If nothing else, the existing community quality rating system (i.e. FA, GA, etc.) should be used. It may not be perfect at the individual article level, but it does scale well. On Mar 26, 2014 6:36 AM, "Pete Forsyth" wrote: > Philippe, > > The Public Policy Initiative produced strong validation f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I wouldn't know, Pete. But as I recall, it was a manual process, wasn't it? And therefore quite difficult to scale and/or adapt for some usages? *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philip

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Pete Forsyth
Philippe, The Public Policy Initiative produced strong validation for the Wikipedia 1.0 approach to assessing article quality. Was Amy Roth's research ever published, and are there any plans to repeat it with a larger sample size etc.? I'd say we're closer than you think to having a good way to me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
During the last strategy plan, we struggled a lot with article quality. Specifically, we struggled with how to MEASURE article quality... we don't have a strong metric for it or a tool to do it. AFT actually played with that a little bit, as well as it's attempt to engage and convert readers into

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announce] WMMX's assembly and new Board

2014-03-25 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-03-24 8:33 GMT+01:00 Salvador A : > As results of that assembly we have a new board which is definitive and > will serve two years, that is, till March 2016. [...] > Wish us good luck in this new stage as chapter as we hope you have the same > in your projects. Complimenti e buona fortuna :

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread rupert THURNER
The "more and more" rules is also a concern i experience when discussing with newbies, but also with more experienced contributors. My main concern is that the terms of use are reflecting US law and English speaking countries worries. In this light they should be as slim as necessary for fulfilling

[Wikimedia-l] Our next strategy plan-Paid editing

2014-03-25 Thread Anders Wennersten
The discussion on the proposed amendment is now closed [1) and it is up to the Board will review the community comments. And with almost 5,000 edits in the discussion - with more than 2,000 editors and 320,000 words in various languages and with very different opinions on the subject, it will b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 1 week reminder: Wikimania 2014 – Call for Submissions

2014-03-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I agree with Marc. I edited the brochure for Wikimania 2011 and I spent a lot of time making the abstracts *shorter*. Unless somebody plans to publish a Wikimania proceedings book of at least a 100 pages, the abstracts should be *no more* than 200 words or so. When it is *no less* than 300 words,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread Carlos M. Colina
What, now we cannot have a different perception?  Or worse, we are not allowed to say it on this list?  Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Austin Hair Date: 25/03/2014 10:44 (GMT+02:00) To: "Carlos M. Colina" ,Wikimedia Mailing List Cc: Gayle Karen Young

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread Austin Hair
Guys... c'mon... Austin On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Carlos M. Colina wrote: > Sometimes I have the perception that it is not just not aligned but diverting > more and more as time passes by.. > > M > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > Original message > From: James Salsman

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Sometimes I have the perception that it is not just not aligned but diverting more and more as time passes by.. M Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: James Salsman Date: 25/03/2014 02:23 (GMT+02:00) To: Wikimedia Mailing List ,Gayle Karen Young Subject: [W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED transition responsibility

2014-03-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
James, Sorry, you know that answer as well as we all do. Sue has not gone. The board is still there. Thanks, GerardM On 25 March 2014 01:23, James Salsman wrote: > Hi Gayle, > > During the ED transition, who is responsible for insuring that > Foundation advocacy is aligned with the interes