Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Jon Davies
Very sad to hear this - you have done so well. Hie to see you in London. On 30 March 2014 18:59, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Dear colleagues, collaborators and friends of free knowledge, After three eventful years I left the board of Wikimedia Nederland; yesterday was the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Charles Gregory
Farewell and good luck Ziko! You have the dubious notability of being the first Wikimedian I met outside my home country! Hopefully you'll still be active in the community and I'll see you around again! Charles / User:Chuq Hobart, Australia On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Jon Davies

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Craig Franklin
Ziko, Although as Presidents of chapters located on the opposite sides of the world I never had that much to do with you, when I *did* have cause to interact I always found you unfailingly polite, approachable, and unfailingly dedicated to our shared mission. Thankyou for your service, and I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Itzik Edri
Thank you Ziko for your huge contribution to WMNL, to the chapters, and to the movement in general. בהצלחה (Good luck) on whatever you going to do next. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Dear colleagues, collaborators and friends of free knowledge,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Dear Ziko, Let me take the opportunity to thank you for all the efforts over the past years. While we do not always agree on everything it was pleasure exchanging ideas with you and I felt that the leadership of the Dutch chapter was in great hands while you where the chair of the Dutch board.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Video conferencing is ok-ish.. at best. It does not give you the opportunity that face to face communications gives you. It does not allow you to get through the fog of misunderstanding, Really, when the right people go for the right reasons, it pays its dividents. Cost is only one criteria

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 03/31/2014 08:23 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: That seems niether all that surprising nor all that costly Oh, D'oh! Wrong conference! Ignore me, and move along. :-) -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 1 week reminder: Wikimania 2014 - Call for Submissions

2014-03-31 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
I guess it is just a QA session with someone ready to answer potentially difficult questions from the audience :-) 2014-03-31 11:38 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Hi all, I am probably missing some page somewhere but I would really like to know if there is adescription

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread
On 31 March 2014 12:02, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Video conferencing is ok-ish.. at best. It does not give you the opportunity that face to face communications gives you. It does not allow you to get through the fog of misunderstanding, Really, when the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When there is enough money to go around, efficacy should be the primary consideration. When charitable funds are available and they are not spend because of misplaced frugality, it is obvious to me that priorities are out of kilter. Your second arguments makes more sense but also up to a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Itzik Edri
I don't think the costs are the issue here, neither if there is streaming or not (and I don't think we need to have one. It's WMCconf, not Wikimania). But we have strict rule - two representatives, 3 if you have ED. I also saw that some chapters have more than that, and I really don't know why.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread
On 31 March 2014 14:08, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, When there is enough money to go around, efficacy should be the primary consideration. When charitable funds are available and they are not spend because of misplaced frugality, it is obvious to me that priorities

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-03-31 11:47 GMT+02:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: This seems to not be the case looking at the proposed attendee list[1] with the UK sending a massive party of 8 people (excluding Wikimania representatives), significantly larger than any other Chapter or Thorg. Well, the question then is can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OFFLIST] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread
Hi Cristian, Yes. I sort of expected WMDE to be the ones implementing the 2+1 'rule' and if there was to be any exceptions for this to be discussed before they added names to the registration page. Anyway, I've already posted quite a bit on this thread, so I'll step back a little - it's not like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Fae what I object to is assuming going to a conference with too big a delegation is a waste of money by definition. In your reply you mention * you were a chair of the chapter and, * you do not know Katherine Ruth. Given that you were the chair of the chapter, you should be happy new people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Bence Damokos
Please note that this year the invitation to the conference states Organizations who would like to send more than two persons will have to book and pay for all their travel and accommodation themselves. - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Registration - There is no more a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [OFFLIST] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Keating
Just to be clear, there was no only 2 representatives plus an ED rule mentioned in the registration process. If there had been, then Wikimedia UK would have respected it. Given that there wasn't, we thought it was useful to send more than 2 trustees, as we have many new Board members and it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread
On 31 March 2014 14:59, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: ... Really Fae, as you are no longer the chair, why rule from the grave? Thanks, Thanks Gerard, I'll return to being dead and buried now. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Russavia
Gerard, et al On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: My point is very much that it is for the chapter to decide if they spend their money wisely. It is for members of a chapter to question this at an appropriate time and at an appropriate place.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Jon Davies
A few points. There is no policy to restrict participation to three representatives. Indeed, many chapters are sending more than three delegates as has been the case in previous years. For the record we have people going for four reasons: - CEO and Chair as standard - Two staff and one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread
On 31 March 2014 16:23, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: ... For the record we have people going for four reasons: - CEO and Chair as standard - Two staff and one trustee who are invited to do presentations on areas of strength in the chapter. - Two trustees (we are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Jon Davies
You are right - eight. as Chris is going as well. The reasons remain the same. On 31 March 2014 17:00, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2014 16:23, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: ... For the record we have people going for four reasons: - CEO and Chair as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Simon Knight
The additional trustee is also talking so Jon's points stand. It's great that Wikimania representatives will be there, and that a WMUK member will also be there as part of the FDC. However, while I certainly hope those individuals are happy to represent WMUK, they're really not relevant to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread Florence Devouard
I hope it is just a goodbye chapter-wise and will be happy to share a beer with you in London (not an English one ;)) Flo On 30/03/14 19:59, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Dear colleagues, collaborators and friends of free knowledge, After three eventful years I left the board of Wikimedia Nederland;

[Wikimedia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

2014-03-31 Thread Vishnu
Dear Wikimedians, I am glad to share with you the detailed work plan of CIS-A2K for the period July 2014-July 2015 [1] . This work plan consists of 21 plans across 6 verticals. These are: * 7 Language Area Plans * 3 Community Strengthening Initiatives * 8 Stand-alone Wikimedia Projects *

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Goodbye as the German president of the Dutch chapter

2014-03-31 Thread
Thanks for all your hard work Ziko. It has always been appreciated. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

[Wikimedia-l] [FDC] WMFr Proposal - Call for copyediting

2014-03-31 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi everyone, As you might know, or not, tomorrow nght the round 2 of this year FDC proposal will close. Our proposal is on meta : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Proposal_form and we're copy editing it. In the past it has been brought

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] WMFr Proposal - Call for copyediting

2014-03-31 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-03-31 19:59 GMT+02:00 Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com: As you might know, or not, tomorrow nght the round 2 of this year FDC proposal will close. Our proposal is on meta :

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] WMFr Proposal - Call for copyediting

2014-03-31 Thread Christophe Henner
On our internal wiki. Though now it might be out of date as we're only proof readin the english version. Sorry :( -- Christophe On 31 March 2014 20:52, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-31 19:59 GMT+02:00 Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com: As you might know,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] WMFr Proposal - Call for copyediting

2014-03-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Christophe Henner, 31/03/2014 19:59: If anyone has the courage to help us proofread our proposal, your help will be much appreciated. How much time left before the text is frozen and typofixes become strictly forbidden? I'd rather not be slapped by the staff for excessive helpfulness as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] WMFr Proposal - Call for copyediting

2014-03-31 Thread Christophe Henner
1st April 23h59 UTC/GMT. So you have plenty of time ! :) -- Christophe On 31 March 2014 21:20, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Christophe Henner, 31/03/2014 19:59: If anyone has the courage to help us proofread our proposal, your help will be much appreciated. How much time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Itzik Edri
This is totally surprise for me. I checked the last years participation lists, and none of the chapters sent more than 2+1 representatives. The idea all this years was very simple: to keep the conference small as possible in order to have effective discussions, and to allow all the chapter to be

[Wikimedia-l] WMF FDC Proposal: we invite your participation

2014-03-31 Thread Sue Gardner
Hey folks, The purpose of this note is to remind you that the WMF will be participating in the FDC Process Round 2, which begins tomorrow. I'd like to invite you to comment on the plan-in-progress, which will be at this URL within about 24 hours:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-31 Thread Sue Gardner
On 21 March 2014 13:23, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: We will update the wiki page at https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_Residence/Harvard_University_assessment with more information and details. I encourage others to participate in this as a collaborative process.

[Wikimedia-l] Over 20000 maps released as CC0 by NY Public Library

2014-03-31 Thread Charles Gregory
From the NYPL's blog - http://www.nypl.org/blog/2014/03/28/open-access-maps The Lionel Pincus Princess Firyal Map Division is very proud to announce the release of more than 20,000 cartographic works as high resolution downloads. We believe these maps have no known US copyright restrictions. To

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-03-31 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 1 April 2014 16:22, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: For everyone: following up on Erik's e-mail, the WMF has done a postmortem of the Belfer situation, which I've just posted at the link from Erik above. Suffice to say here that we implemented the Belfer