Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-09-03 Thread Wil Sinclair
> Hoi, > Maybe... but it assumes that we have plenty of time and work sequently. > Both are not the case and as it is, the framework is broken.to the extend > that people refuse to use it. So yes, ideally you want to fix many issues > nicely and in a collaborative manner. At the same time our reade

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-09-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Maybe... but it assumes that we have plenty of time and work sequently. Both are not the case and as it is, the framework is broken.to the extend that people refuse to use it. So yes, ideally you want to fix many issues nicely and in a collaborative manner. At the same time our readers are dis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-09-03 Thread Isarra Yos
On 02/09/14 10:56, Ricordisamoa wrote: Il 26/08/2014 12:18, Craig Franklin ha scritto: The editor retention problem will not be solved with technological gizmos and doodads, nor with top-down solutions imposed from above. It will be solved with positive human contact and creating a collaborati

[Wikimedia-l] AffCom - Call for candidates 2015

2014-09-03 Thread Carlos M. Colina
(in the case you received it already, sorry for re-sending it, my Thunderbird crashed just as I clicked the "send" button :-( ) Dear all, The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee that is responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Chapters, User Groups and Thematic Organizations an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Belgium as a Wikimedia chapter by the WMF Board

2014-09-03 Thread Ralgis
El Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:46:45 +0300 "Carlos M. Colina" escribió: > Dear all, > > It is an honour for me to announce that during Wikimania, the WMF > resolved to recognise Wikimedia Belgium as a Wikimedia chapter. > The resolution was made public a few days ago. > > [...] > Many congratulations

[Wikimedia-l] Lyon Declaration on access to information and development

2014-09-03 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Dear all, in Switzerland it's starting a meeting of libraries and one theme of discussion is the Lyon Declaration on access to information and development: http://www.lyondeclaration.org/ I see a lot of NGOs and libraries but any Wikimedia related association (or foundation). Regards -- Ilari

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Wil Sinclair wrote: > I'd like to add distribution as one of the pain points. I wanted to > have the templates that are available on enwiki for another Mediawiki > installation, but I couldn't get them to work. It seems like every > template has a maze of dependenci

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
I'm thinking a page on Meta to start with. I'll get round to it when I get home from work tonight CET. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Wil Sinclair wrote: > Exsqueeze the ignorance. I'm still a n00b. Martijn, where should we > set this discussion up? > > It's clear that there are several peopl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread Wil Sinclair
Exsqueeze the ignorance. I'm still a n00b. Martijn, where should we set this discussion up? It's clear that there are several people who are interested in talking templates. I'm getting my hands dirty with them on another project I'm working on. I don't mean to rush you; just tell me what to set u

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Belgium as a Wikimedia chapter by the WMF Board

2014-09-03 Thread Quim Gil
Congratulations! On Tuesday, September 2, 2014, Romaine Wiki wrote: > Thanks all! Looking forward to seeing WMBE coordinating an European effort to have the best Wikimedia participation at http://fosdem.org ever. (Tech-minded wikimedians, take note: Brussels, 31 January & 1 February 2015) -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Wil Sinclair wrote: > > tl;dr: We've been collectively whining about templates for long enough. > Who > > wants to help with fixing them? > > I want to help fix them. > Great to hear. Getting my ass in to gear is one of my greatest weaknesses, and from what I kno

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Sep 3, 2014 4:46 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > Hi Martijn. Thanks for starting this thread. > > Martijn Hoekstra [roughly] wrote: > >* Catalog the problems with [dev issue]. Make a comprehensive list that > > enumerates the problems with [dev issue] we have now, categorise the > > problems (righ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Belgium as a Wikimedia chapter by the WMF Board

2014-09-03 Thread Stevie Benton
Well done everyone involved! I know how hard you have all worked to make this happen, I'm very pleased for you all. Congrats! Stevie On 3 September 2014 07:41, Ad Huikeshoven wrote: > Congratulations Belgium. Douze points. > > On behalf of the Board of Wikimedia Nederland, best wishes! We're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates

2014-09-03 Thread Wil Sinclair
> tl;dr: We've been collectively whining about templates for long enough. Who > wants to help with fixing them? I want to help fix them. > I hope we can, for the coming period, accomplish the following: > > * Catalog the problems with templates. Make a comprehensive list that > enumerates the pro