Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Filip Maljkovic

On 10/16/2014 04:22 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:

Hello, everyone.

Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the
working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
whatever we may end up calling it[1].

In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
boldly *suggest
that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
*significant
preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

[1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
[3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference

Yes, please.

Cheers,
Filip (WMRS)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Pine W
Hi,

I can speak only in a personal capacity.

My occasional readings of information about WMCH have been positive. I
anticipate that visa problems will be no greater than they were at
Wikimania London. The admittedly limited information about the bid sounds
reasonable, as far as it goes. I assume that there will be a thorough
review of the budget and program by WMF and WMCH to ensure that the ROIs
for both organizations are reasonable. It seems to me that *if* this
conference is to be held (I am still a bit skeptical that having this
conference separate from Wikimania makes financial sense), that it is
reasonable to proceed with WMCH as host.

Perhaps the name, scope, purpose, timing, and outcomes of this conference
from past years and for the future can be discussed at the WMCH event.

My understanding is that there is not a community committee that reviews
bids for this conference and that the Chapters Association is likely to
remain in a deep freeze; if the location of this conference is subject to
community consensus, I would vote to support the WMCH bid subject to the
conditions and suggestions I made elsewhere in this email.

Thank you WMCH for offering to host.

Pine


On Oct 15, 2014 7:23 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia
affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
 --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wikimedia Serbia Executive Director

2014-10-16 Thread Filip Maljkovic

On 10/16/2014 07:12 AM, Salvador A wrote:

Great news! Congratulations!

I hope WMRS could tell us how was the experience and difficulties of
choosing a new ED. Such kind of storytelling might be the basis for future
best practices on getting staff.


Thanks! :)

Well, to me (someone who was involved in the process from the get-go and 
through the entire thing), the greatest difficulty was the sheer amount 
of submissions -- 224.


So, our process was as follows: we announced the job opening on two 
relevant sites and accepted submissions during the course of 3 weeks. 
After reviewing all the CVs, the committee (originally consisting of 3 
persons) members gave their ternary grades (+, -, or ?) for each 
candidate. Those with not enough positive votes weren't considered 
anymore, but those with any sort of significant support were discussed 
at a long meeting, where we finally made a list of people who would be 
invited in the first round of interviews.


Around 30 people participated in the first round, and that was spread 
throughout 3 days (about 12 hours in total, so about 20 minutes per 
candidate). After that, we made a shortlist for the second round and 
that included 6 best candidates. We were quite strict with some 
criteria, but we had to be in order to narrow things down significantly.


The second round was held during the course of one afternoon, and the 
committee was broadened by a few board members. The second round 
consisted of a short test (literacy and general knowledge) and a half 
hour interview, that was broader in scope than the first one: we gave 
each of the candidates one of the project proposals we got from our 
volunteers for the Annual Grant 2015, so the candidates had to comment 
them and try to see how the project fit in our mission, what should be 
changed etc.


After the interviews, we had some deliberations that lasted longer than 
anticipated, but after about a week, one candidate bubbled up and we 
selected him -- Ivan.


That's the process in short (there were some other peculiarities, but 
they aren't quite relevant for this venue).


Cheers,
Filip

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Symonds
Well said Asaf.
On 16 Oct 2014 03:24, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
 --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wikimedia Serbia Executive Director

2014-10-16 Thread Markus Glaser
Welcome Ivan, and have a good start! Congratulations to WMRS to have 
finished this difficult task, and thanks for sharing your experience. 
That is very helpful!


Best

Am 16.10.2014 08:21, schrieb Filip Maljkovic:

On 10/16/2014 07:12 AM, Salvador A wrote:

Great news! Congratulations!

I hope WMRS could tell us how was the experience and difficulties of
choosing a new ED. Such kind of storytelling might be the basis for 
future

best practices on getting staff.


Thanks! :)

Well, to me (someone who was involved in the process from the get-go 
and through the entire thing), the greatest difficulty was the sheer 
amount of submissions -- 224.


So, our process was as follows: we announced the job opening on two 
relevant sites and accepted submissions during the course of 3 weeks. 
After reviewing all the CVs, the committee (originally consisting of 3 
persons) members gave their ternary grades (+, -, or ?) for each 
candidate. Those with not enough positive votes weren't considered 
anymore, but those with any sort of significant support were discussed 
at a long meeting, where we finally made a list of people who would be 
invited in the first round of interviews.


Around 30 people participated in the first round, and that was spread 
throughout 3 days (about 12 hours in total, so about 20 minutes per 
candidate). After that, we made a shortlist for the second round and 
that included 6 best candidates. We were quite strict with some 
criteria, but we had to be in order to narrow things down significantly.


The second round was held during the course of one afternoon, and the 
committee was broadened by a few board members. The second round 
consisted of a short test (literacy and general knowledge) and a half 
hour interview, that was broader in scope than the first one: we gave 
each of the candidates one of the project proposals we got from our 
volunteers for the Annual Grant 2015, so the candidates had to comment 
them and try to see how the project fit in our mission, what should be 
changed etc.


After the interviews, we had some deliberations that lasted longer 
than anticipated, but after about a week, one candidate bubbled up and 
we selected him -- Ivan.


That's the process in short (there were some other peculiarities, but 
they aren't quite relevant for this venue).


Cheers,
Filip

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Balázs Viczián
imo (but maybe I'm sitting on the wrong direction on this horse) but once
we have a program it can be installed to any suitable location.

I think it would be great moving that way. WMF and a few chapters have
dedicated people for event organizing, why not use them. Bidding would be
then for _hosting only_, what I am sure would generate dozens of
applications per event.

Not to mention how much easier would it be to keep up the consistency and
the continuity (contentwise) of the events.

Balazs
2014.10.16. 4:24, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org ezt írta:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
 --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Audit - June 30, 2014

2014-10-16 Thread Garfield Byrd
I and the investment management team that has been selected to manage the
short term and long term reserves of the Foundation are open to any
consensus guidance on what socially responsible investing looks like in
our context.

Regards,

Garfield

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hmm. I'm not sure that everyone will agree on all of those values you
 espouse, Pine - they are laudable goals but as an organisation that also
 aims to be neutral, moving in a left-of-centre direction might be frowned
 on by some.

 Limiting investment options would also limit the returns on those
 investments - which would impact our mission (might be good, might be bad)
 - and limiting returns on investments would also in turn impact a lot of
 other things, for example, the recommended figures that the WMF and
 Chapters hold in reserve.

 A complicated issue.

 Richard Symonds
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0992

 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

 *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
 over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

 On 15 October 2014 15:52, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org
  wrote:
 
   On 10/15/2014 04:52 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
I suggest that you need a stricter definition to start with.
  
   It's also highly disputable that the Foundation would be justified in
   reducing the fiduciary care it must employ in its investment strategy
   for a set of ill-defined objectives that fall entirely outside its
   mission - no matter how agreeable those objectives may be to many of
 the
   volunteers.
  
   -- Marc
  
  
  
  I'm not a natural fan of divestment ethics, but I don't know that there
  is much dispute these days that it is possible to fulfill fiduciary
 duties
  *and* invest using values / ethics oriented strategy. Twenty years ago
  perhaps it was uncommon, but today ethical (or social responsibility)
  investment strategy is common among non-profits and there are many
  dedicated funds for the purpose.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015

2014-10-16 Thread Ad Huikeshoven
I have updated the page on meta to reflect this decision. [1]
Next item on the list: determine program committee.
Could we agree on having James Hare as program committee lead?

Cheers,

Ad

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Conference_2015diff=10222147oldid=9841671

2014-10-16 4:22 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:

 Hello, everyone.

 Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out
 of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this
 up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the

 working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4],
 whatever we may end up calling it[1].

 In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in
 light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I
 boldly *suggest
 that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the
 spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in
 *significant
 preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates?

Asaf

 [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it.  The previous thread was
 successfully killed by the digression into the event's name.  Let's try to
 keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we?
 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list.  But this is
 still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates.
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids
 [6]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
 --
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[Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor office hours for October and November

2014-10-16 Thread Erica Litrenta
Hi everybody,
this is a reminder that the next VE office hour is on
Saturday 18th at 1800 UTC [1],
in case you want to add it to your calendar.

Please notice that November's appointment has been scheduled as well: we'll
meet on Wednesday the 19th, at 1600 UTC [2].

Previous logs and other information, including how to participate, can be
found at Meta [3].

Hope to talk to you on IRC in a couple of days,
Elitre (WMF)


[1]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18min=00sec=0day=18month=10year=2014

[2]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=00sec=0day=19month=11year=2014

[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Audit - June 30, 2014

2014-10-16 Thread Pine W
Hi Garfield,

This might be a good discussion to have on Meta. Would the investment team
be willing to set up a page for discussion? The guidance developed there
could optionally be used by thematic organizations as well, and could be
used for the WMF endowment. WMF Fundraising might want to be involved in
the discussion in case donors ask questions or want to submit input.

Thanks,

Pine
On Oct 16, 2014 12:42 PM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I and the investment management team that has been selected to manage the
 short term and long term reserves of the Foundation are open to any
 consensus guidance on what socially responsible investing looks like in
 our context.

 Regards,

 Garfield

 On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Symonds 
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

  Hmm. I'm not sure that everyone will agree on all of those values you
  espouse, Pine - they are laudable goals but as an organisation that also
  aims to be neutral, moving in a left-of-centre direction might be
 frowned
  on by some.
 
  Limiting investment options would also limit the returns on those
  investments - which would impact our mission (might be good, might be
 bad)
  - and limiting returns on investments would also in turn impact a lot of
  other things, for example, the recommended figures that the WMF and
  Chapters hold in reserve.
 
  A complicated issue.
 
  Richard Symonds
  Wikimedia UK
  0207 065 0992
 
  Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
  Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
  Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
 4LT.
  United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
  movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
  operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 
  *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
  over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
 
  On 15 October 2014 15:52, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org
   wrote:
  
On 10/15/2014 04:52 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
 I suggest that you need a stricter definition to start with.
   
It's also highly disputable that the Foundation would be justified in
reducing the fiduciary care it must employ in its investment strategy
for a set of ill-defined objectives that fall entirely outside its
mission - no matter how agreeable those objectives may be to many of
  the
volunteers.
   
-- Marc
   
   
   
   I'm not a natural fan of divestment ethics, but I don't know that
 there
   is much dispute these days that it is possible to fulfill fiduciary
  duties
   *and* invest using values / ethics oriented strategy. Twenty years ago
   perhaps it was uncommon, but today ethical (or social responsibility)
   investment strategy is common among non-profits and there are many
   dedicated funds for the purpose.
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