Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015
On 10/16/2014 04:22 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote: Hello, everyone. Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4], whatever we may end up calling it[1]. In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I boldly *suggest that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in *significant preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates? Asaf [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it. The previous thread was successfully killed by the digression into the event's name. Let's try to keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we? [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list. But this is still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates. [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference Yes, please. Cheers, Filip (WMRS) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015
Hi, I can speak only in a personal capacity. My occasional readings of information about WMCH have been positive. I anticipate that visa problems will be no greater than they were at Wikimania London. The admittedly limited information about the bid sounds reasonable, as far as it goes. I assume that there will be a thorough review of the budget and program by WMF and WMCH to ensure that the ROIs for both organizations are reasonable. It seems to me that *if* this conference is to be held (I am still a bit skeptical that having this conference separate from Wikimania makes financial sense), that it is reasonable to proceed with WMCH as host. Perhaps the name, scope, purpose, timing, and outcomes of this conference from past years and for the future can be discussed at the WMCH event. My understanding is that there is not a community committee that reviews bids for this conference and that the Chapters Association is likely to remain in a deep freeze; if the location of this conference is subject to community consensus, I would vote to support the WMCH bid subject to the conditions and suggestions I made elsewhere in this email. Thank you WMCH for offering to host. Pine On Oct 15, 2014 7:23 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello, everyone. Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4], whatever we may end up calling it[1]. In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I boldly *suggest that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in *significant preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates? Asaf [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it. The previous thread was successfully killed by the digression into the event's name. Let's try to keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we? [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list. But this is still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates. [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wikimedia Serbia Executive Director
On 10/16/2014 07:12 AM, Salvador A wrote: Great news! Congratulations! I hope WMRS could tell us how was the experience and difficulties of choosing a new ED. Such kind of storytelling might be the basis for future best practices on getting staff. Thanks! :) Well, to me (someone who was involved in the process from the get-go and through the entire thing), the greatest difficulty was the sheer amount of submissions -- 224. So, our process was as follows: we announced the job opening on two relevant sites and accepted submissions during the course of 3 weeks. After reviewing all the CVs, the committee (originally consisting of 3 persons) members gave their ternary grades (+, -, or ?) for each candidate. Those with not enough positive votes weren't considered anymore, but those with any sort of significant support were discussed at a long meeting, where we finally made a list of people who would be invited in the first round of interviews. Around 30 people participated in the first round, and that was spread throughout 3 days (about 12 hours in total, so about 20 minutes per candidate). After that, we made a shortlist for the second round and that included 6 best candidates. We were quite strict with some criteria, but we had to be in order to narrow things down significantly. The second round was held during the course of one afternoon, and the committee was broadened by a few board members. The second round consisted of a short test (literacy and general knowledge) and a half hour interview, that was broader in scope than the first one: we gave each of the candidates one of the project proposals we got from our volunteers for the Annual Grant 2015, so the candidates had to comment them and try to see how the project fit in our mission, what should be changed etc. After the interviews, we had some deliberations that lasted longer than anticipated, but after about a week, one candidate bubbled up and we selected him -- Ivan. That's the process in short (there were some other peculiarities, but they aren't quite relevant for this venue). Cheers, Filip ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015
imo (but maybe I'm sitting on the wrong direction on this horse) but once we have a program it can be installed to any suitable location. I think it would be great moving that way. WMF and a few chapters have dedicated people for event organizing, why not use them. Bidding would be then for _hosting only_, what I am sure would generate dozens of applications per event. Not to mention how much easier would it be to keep up the consistency and the continuity (contentwise) of the events. Balazs 2014.10.16. 4:24, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org ezt írta: Hello, everyone. Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4], whatever we may end up calling it[1]. In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I boldly *suggest that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in *significant preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates? Asaf [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it. The previous thread was successfully killed by the digression into the event's name. Let's try to keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we? [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list. But this is still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates. [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Audit - June 30, 2014
I and the investment management team that has been selected to manage the short term and long term reserves of the Foundation are open to any consensus guidance on what socially responsible investing looks like in our context. Regards, Garfield On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hmm. I'm not sure that everyone will agree on all of those values you espouse, Pine - they are laudable goals but as an organisation that also aims to be neutral, moving in a left-of-centre direction might be frowned on by some. Limiting investment options would also limit the returns on those investments - which would impact our mission (might be good, might be bad) - and limiting returns on investments would also in turn impact a lot of other things, for example, the recommended figures that the WMF and Chapters hold in reserve. A complicated issue. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 15 October 2014 15:52, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 10/15/2014 04:52 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: I suggest that you need a stricter definition to start with. It's also highly disputable that the Foundation would be justified in reducing the fiduciary care it must employ in its investment strategy for a set of ill-defined objectives that fall entirely outside its mission - no matter how agreeable those objectives may be to many of the volunteers. -- Marc I'm not a natural fan of divestment ethics, but I don't know that there is much dispute these days that it is possible to fulfill fiduciary duties *and* invest using values / ethics oriented strategy. Twenty years ago perhaps it was uncommon, but today ethical (or social responsibility) investment strategy is common among non-profits and there are many dedicated funds for the purpose. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference[1] 2015
I have updated the page on meta to reflect this decision. [1] Next item on the list: determine program committee. Could we agree on having James Hare as program committee lead? Cheers, Ad [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Conference_2015diff=10222147oldid=9841671 2014-10-16 4:22 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org: Hello, everyone. Weeks go by, and the previous conversation was throughly derailed, so out of a profound interest in ensuring a high-value event, I am bringing this up again: we[3] *need to make progress* with planning the working-meeting-featuring-Wikimedia-affiliates-and-WMF-and-the-WMF-Board-and-AffCom[4], whatever we may end up calling it[1]. In the interest of moving on to focus on more substantive issues, and in light of there being only a single bid submitted so far[5], may I boldly *suggest that it be accepted* and that we devote the rest of the time until the spring to ensuring the lessons[6] of the previous years be heeded in *significant preparatory work* by the program team and the affiliates? Asaf [1] or whatever we may choose to rename it. The previous thread was successfully killed by the digression into the event's name. Let's try to keep this one on track, and discuss the name ELSEWHERE[2], shall we? [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [3] yes, not all the hundreds of people on this mailing list. But this is still the channel that reaches the greatest number of Wikimedia affiliates. [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015/Bids [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Ad Huikeshoven Bestuurslid / Board member Wikimedia Nederland Internationaal / International Affairs Educatieprogramma / Education Program tel.(+31) (0)70 3608510 mob. (+31) (0)6 40293574 Steun vrije kennis! Kijk op wikimedia.nl http://www.wikimedia.nl/pagina/doneren-aan-wikimedia-nederland *Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht ABNAMRO NL33 ABNA 0497164833 - Kamer van Koophandel 17189036 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] VisualEditor office hours for October and November
Hi everybody, this is a reminder that the next VE office hour is on Saturday 18th at 1800 UTC [1], in case you want to add it to your calendar. Please notice that November's appointment has been scheduled as well: we'll meet on Wednesday the 19th, at 1600 UTC [2]. Previous logs and other information, including how to participate, can be found at Meta [3]. Hope to talk to you on IRC in a couple of days, Elitre (WMF) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18min=00sec=0day=18month=10year=2014 [2] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=00sec=0day=19month=11year=2014 [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Audit - June 30, 2014
Hi Garfield, This might be a good discussion to have on Meta. Would the investment team be willing to set up a page for discussion? The guidance developed there could optionally be used by thematic organizations as well, and could be used for the WMF endowment. WMF Fundraising might want to be involved in the discussion in case donors ask questions or want to submit input. Thanks, Pine On Oct 16, 2014 12:42 PM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: I and the investment management team that has been selected to manage the short term and long term reserves of the Foundation are open to any consensus guidance on what socially responsible investing looks like in our context. Regards, Garfield On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hmm. I'm not sure that everyone will agree on all of those values you espouse, Pine - they are laudable goals but as an organisation that also aims to be neutral, moving in a left-of-centre direction might be frowned on by some. Limiting investment options would also limit the returns on those investments - which would impact our mission (might be good, might be bad) - and limiting returns on investments would also in turn impact a lot of other things, for example, the recommended figures that the WMF and Chapters hold in reserve. A complicated issue. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 15 October 2014 15:52, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 10/15/2014 04:52 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: I suggest that you need a stricter definition to start with. It's also highly disputable that the Foundation would be justified in reducing the fiduciary care it must employ in its investment strategy for a set of ill-defined objectives that fall entirely outside its mission - no matter how agreeable those objectives may be to many of the volunteers. -- Marc I'm not a natural fan of divestment ethics, but I don't know that there is much dispute these days that it is possible to fulfill fiduciary duties *and* invest using values / ethics oriented strategy. Twenty years ago perhaps it was uncommon, but today ethical (or social responsibility) investment strategy is common among non-profits and there are many dedicated funds for the purpose. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
