Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to review: Design Statement of Purpose

[Peter Southwood]

Well said.
P

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From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Isarra Yos
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 2:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to review: Design Statement of Purpose

Okay, so you want to clarify... something, and build trust. What needs 
clarifying? What has been unclear? For whom, and building trust with whom? Are 
these even the right questions?

A problem here, from what you're saying, seems to be that things with Design 
have been historically overly complicated/confused, and there hasn't been good 
communication with other teams, with the community, even within Design itself. 
Though a step in the right direction, this seems to me like a continuation of 
that pattern, frankly. The more big words you use, the more passive voice, the 
more overarching 'themes' and less direct problem statements, the more you 
distance yourselves from what you're doing and who you're working with, and I 
would if anything strongly recommend the opposite. Keep it simple.

Your general purpose should be to make things... better. But what that means 
depends on what your problems are, so your problems are what you need to do 
work to sort out. That way you can address the problems, and move forward.

So what are the problems? How will you address them? And in order to define 
these problems, for that matter, what's your scope?

-I

On 10/11/16 20:36, Arthur Richards wrote:
> Hi Isarra, thanks for the excellent questions. Here's my attempt to 
> answer
> them:
>
> The purpose of the statement of purpose is to gain clarity and build 
> trust within the design group and with their principle stakeholders. 
> With the statement itself, we seek to gain clarity and shared 
> understanding about what design at the WMF is here for and trying to 
> achieve (at a big-picture level). Through the process of defining the 
> statement of purpose, we hope to build trust amongst the design group 
> and with their principle stakeholders. So, the primary audience for 
> this document is the design group itself, with the stakeholders of design 
> being a secondary audience.
>
> Moving forward, that is once the statement of purpose is done, design 
> can take a close look at where it is now relative to where it wants to 
> be as defined by the statement of purpose. Design can then use that 
> difference to help make decisions about how we get from here to there 
> (for instance to help in making decisions about staffing, structure, 
> involvement in product teams, how to approach design problems, and so on).
>
> Long story short, the statement of purpose is intended to be an 
> organizing tool - to create clarity through everyone understanding the 
> purpose, and trust by going through a collaborative process of 
> definition amongst design and their stakeholders - so that they can 
> execute better and with decreased friction.
>
> A little more background and history:
> As the Foundation has evolved over the years, there have been many 
> challenges and pain points around figuring out how design should 
> function and how it should be integrated into the various facets of 
> the organization (from product development to communications). Through 
> all of the attempts to address those challenges and pain points over 
> the years, it's become clear that the role and purpose of design is 
> not well understood - at least not in a shared and consistent way, 
> which makes it nearly impossible to find the right and lasting 
> solutions. A few months ago, the Team Practices Group was asked to 
> help identify and resolve the major pain points - after doing 
> research, we agreed in conjunction with the design group that we 
> should pursue clarifying the purpose of design and validate it with their 
> stakeholders.
>
> Does this answer your questions?
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:24 PM Isarra Yos  wrote:
>
>> I'm going to ask this here since the talkpage on-wiki is a flow board 
>> and I find those very difficult to use, but I'm a bit unclear what 
>> the purpose of this is. All the things listed sound good in theory, 
>> but the language is ambiguous and very high level, to the point where 
>> it's hard to see how it applies in practice. Essentially, who is this 
>> for? What are the problems they are trying to address? What are they 
>> planning to do, and what will this mean in practice moving forward?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -I
>>
>> On 10/11/16 18:40, Keegan Peterzell wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Over the past few months the Design team members at the Wikimedia 
>>> Foundation (user experience [UX] designers, design researchers, user 
>>> experience engineers, and communications) have been working with 
>>> Arthur Richards from the Team Practices Group to identify the 
>>> high-level themes that motivate design at the WMF. These themes have 
>>> been turned into a
>> brief
>>> statement of purpose, whose intent 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising Update - Big English Fundraiser

[MZMcBride]

Joseph Seddon wrote:
>So firstly you can see all of our standard banners here [1]. Those links
>will always contain our most current control banner designs and the
>control text will be updated regularly through the English campaigns. We
>are working to limit the number of banners each reader sees and it is
>important to note that readers will only see the large banner once. On
>the large banner, the close button is accompanied  with explicit text.
>The smaller banner doesn’t have the text because of the more limited real
>estate but has an “X” around 45% large. Dismissing the banner or using
>the remind me later function will hide the banner for a period of 1 week.
>
>We have worked hard over the years to rephrase many of the areas of
>criticism relating to our appeals taking into account both staff and
>community feedback. The most recent such change was a small edit from
>“small non-profit” to “non-profit”. I’ll be keeping that page up to date
>with the changes to our copy through the campaign. We are working with the
>Communications team on our new messaging for banners and emails not just
>for new ideas but to ensure it remains consistent with overall WMF
>messaging. The WMF Legal department also reviews all fundraising messages
>to ensure accuracy.
>
>Finally, I foresee absolutely no reason for us to change our policy of not
>showing fundraising banners to logged in users and will definitely
>maintain this for the English campaign.

This was an excellent reply and read. Thank you!

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to review: Design Statement of Purpose

[Isarra Yos]

Okay, so you want to clarify... something, and build trust. What needs 
clarifying? What has been unclear? For whom, and building trust with 
whom? Are these even the right questions?


A problem here, from what you're saying, seems to be that things with 
Design have been historically overly complicated/confused, and there 
hasn't been good communication with other teams, with the community, 
even within Design itself. Though a step in the right direction, this 
seems to me like a continuation of that pattern, frankly. The more big 
words you use, the more passive voice, the more overarching 'themes' and 
less direct problem statements, the more you distance yourselves from 
what you're doing and who you're working with, and I would if anything 
strongly recommend the opposite. Keep it simple.


Your general purpose should be to make things... better. But what that 
means depends on what your problems are, so your problems are what you 
need to do work to sort out. That way you can address the problems, and 
move forward.


So what are the problems? How will you address them? And in order to 
define these problems, for that matter, what's your scope?


-I

On 10/11/16 20:36, Arthur Richards wrote:

Hi Isarra, thanks for the excellent questions. Here's my attempt to answer
them:

The purpose of the statement of purpose is to gain clarity and build trust
within the design group and with their principle stakeholders. With the
statement itself, we seek to gain clarity and shared understanding about
what design at the WMF is here for and trying to achieve (at a big-picture
level). Through the process of defining the statement of purpose, we hope
to build trust amongst the design group and with their principle
stakeholders. So, the primary audience for this document is the design
group itself, with the stakeholders of design being a secondary audience.

Moving forward, that is once the statement of purpose is done, design can
take a close look at where it is now relative to where it wants to be as
defined by the statement of purpose. Design can then use that difference to
help make decisions about how we get from here to there (for instance to
help in making decisions about staffing, structure, involvement in product
teams, how to approach design problems, and so on).

Long story short, the statement of purpose is intended to be an organizing
tool - to create clarity through everyone understanding the purpose, and
trust by going through a collaborative process of definition amongst design
and their stakeholders - so that they can execute better and with decreased
friction.

A little more background and history:
As the Foundation has evolved over the years, there have been many
challenges and pain points around figuring out how design should function
and how it should be integrated into the various facets of the organization
(from product development to communications). Through all of the attempts
to address those challenges and pain points over the years, it's become
clear that the role and purpose of design is not well understood - at least
not in a shared and consistent way, which makes it nearly impossible to
find the right and lasting solutions. A few months ago, the Team Practices
Group was asked to help identify and resolve the major pain points - after
doing research, we agreed in conjunction with the design group that we
should pursue clarifying the purpose of design and validate it with their
stakeholders.

Does this answer your questions?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:24 PM Isarra Yos  wrote:


I'm going to ask this here since the talkpage on-wiki is a flow board
and I find those very difficult to use, but I'm a bit unclear what the
purpose of this is. All the things listed sound good in theory, but the
language is ambiguous and very high level, to the point where it's hard
to see how it applies in practice. Essentially, who is this for? What
are the problems they are trying to address? What are they planning to
do, and what will this mean in practice moving forward?

Thanks.

-I

On 10/11/16 18:40, Keegan Peterzell wrote:

Hello all,

Over the past few months the Design team members at the Wikimedia
Foundation (user experience [UX] designers, design researchers, user
experience engineers, and communications) have been working with Arthur
Richards from the Team Practices Group to identify the high-level themes
that motivate design at the WMF. These themes have been turned into a

brief

statement of purpose, whose intent is to articulate the vision and

purpose

behind design at the WMF. This statement will influence the future
direction of design work.

At this point the stakeholders are ready for a review of the draft
statement. The purpose of this review is to gather a common understanding
of its purpose, and to identify any key themes that may be missing from

the

high-level discussion. On the wiki page for the statement, you'll find
these themes and what they encompass in the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> (1) If you find it difficult to remember strong passwords then consider
> using a password manager .
>

For Unix/GPG types, I can recommend http://www.passwordstore.org/ --
`aptitude install pass`.

It's very old-school cool.
  --scott

-- 
(http://cscott.net)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF November 2016 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, November 17, 19:00 UTC

[Samantha Lien]

Hi Pine,

Metrics will still be included in these meetings, though they will be
structured a little differently moving forward.

We’re experimenting with including metrics throughout the presentation
rather than in a defined section. This may also mean using different
metrics based on the work being described. The goal is to to take a more
holistic approach to measuring our work and focus on communicating impact.

We see this as a work in progress and look forward to continuing to
evaluate what’s working for metrics meetings, what’s not, and how we can
improve. I hope this helps clarify.

Thanks,
Sam

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Samantha,
>
> Will metrics (Readership, Discovery, Community, Fundraising, Finance, etc.)
> still be included in the agenda? The overviews can be brief or in depth,
> perhaps varying in emphasis from month to month. This meeting originated in
> public as the monthly metrics meeting, and I still like having high-level
> overviews; I also feel that it's helpful for folks to have some common
> points of reference regarding the whole organization's (as opposed to
> team-level or department-level) "most important" metrics [0] including a
> reminder of what those metrics are and how they're doing on a regular
> basis.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine.
>
> [0] Definition to be determined, perhaps during the strategy update process
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Samantha Lien 
> wrote:
>
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Samantha Lien 
> > Date: Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:32 PM
> > Subject: Invitation to WMF November 2016 Metrics & Activities Meeting:
> > Thursday, November 17, 19:00 UTC
> > To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > The next Wikimedia Foundation metrics and activities meeting will take
> > place on Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 7:00 PM UTC (11 AM PST). The IRC
> > channel is #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net, and the meeting will
> be
> > broadcast as a live YouTube stream.
> >
> > Update/change to meeting format: The Wikimedia Foundation is exploring a
> > revised format for the November meeting. Our intent is to share work from
> > the Foundation and movement, but also to connect our work more broadly
> > within the movement’s biggest opportunities and challenges.
> >
> > To do this, we are piloting the November meeting around a theme that has
> > been at the forefront of much of our work recently: “Building an
> inclusive
> > movement.”
> >
> > In November, speakers will highlight projects, initiatives, and work that
> > actively foster inclusivity within our movement -- to create a space for
> > everyone to contribute and share in knowledge on the Wikimedia sites.
> >
> > Here is the agenda for the November meeting:
> >
> > * Welcomes, theme introduction - “Building an inclusive movement”
> >
> > * Executive Director update
> >
> > * Community update
> >
> > * June 2016 Inspire Campaign - Chris Schilling
> >
> > * Guest speaker - Wikipedia Asian Month - Addis Wang
> >
> > * Questions and discussion
> >
> > * Wikilove
> >
> > As you may have seen, we are inviting a guest speaker to participate at
> the
> > November meeting. Addis Wang, an active member of the Wikimedia User
> Group
> > China, will be sharing some of his work with Wikipedia Asian Month and
> his
> > efforts to create an inclusive space and invite people to participate in
> > the edit-a-thon.
> >
> > In future meetings, we would like to have one guest speaker from a
> > Wikimedia community or someone from outside the movement present on their
> > work that ties in with that month’s theme. (More information to come on
> > this process moving forward, and who to reach out to if you would like to
> > present in future meetings).
> >
> > If you have any questions about the new format, please feel free to reach
> > out to me, Sam Lien, at the Communications department
> sl...@wikimedia.org.
> >
> > Please review
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> > metrics_and_activities_
> > meetings
> >
> > for further information about the meeting and how to participate.
> >
> > We will post the video recording publicly after the meeting.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Sam
> >
> > --
> > *Samantha Lien*
> > Communications Manager
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > 149 New Montgomery Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

[Pine W]

In addition to the suggestions from Tim:

(0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like
http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure that the tool you use does not
send your chosen password over the Internet and instead tests it locally.

(1) If you find it difficult to remember strong passwords then consider
using a password manager .

(2) As a variation on the suggestions above, please *do not* use the same
password, or a similar password, for your email account that you use for
your Wikimedia password. This applies both to WMF email accounts and
community email accounts.

(3) Also consider changing, testing, and upgrading your passwords for your
bot accounts.

(4) Also consider changing, testing, and upgrading your passwords for your
IRC accounts.


Pine


On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Tim Starling 
wrote:

> Since Friday, we've had a slow but steady stream of admin account
> compromises on WMF projects. The hacker group OurMine has taken credit
> for these compromises.
>
> We're fairly sure now that their mode of operation involves searching
> for target admins in previous user/password dumps published by other
> hackers, such as the 2013 Adobe hack. They're not doing an online
> brute force attack against WMF. For each target, they try one or two
> passwords, and if those don't work, they go on to the next target.
> Their success rate is maybe 10%.
>
> When they compromise an account, they usually do a main page
> defacement or similar, get blocked, and then move on to the next target.
>
> Today, they compromised the account of a www.mediawiki.org admin, did
> a main page defacement there, and then (presumably) used the same
> password to log in to Gerrit. They took a screenshot, sent it to us,
> but took no other action.
>
> So, I don't think they are truly malicious -- I think they are doing
> it for fun, fame, perhaps also for their stated goal of bringing
> attention to poor password security.
>
> Indications are that they are familiarising themselves with MediaWiki
> and with our community. They probably plan on continuing to do this
> for some time.
>
> We're doing what we can to slow them down, but admins and other users
> with privileged access also need to take some responsibility for the
> security of their accounts. Specifically:
>
> * If you're an admin, please enable two-factor authentication.
> 
> * Please change your password, if you haven't already changed it in
> the last week. Use a new password that is not used on any other site.
> * Please do not share passwords across different WMF services, for
> example, between the wikis and Gerrit.
>
> (Cross-posted to wikitech-l and wikimedia-l, please copy/link
> elsewhere as appropriate.)
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Research Showcase, November 16, 2016

[Leila Zia]

Hi all,

A reminder that this is happening in 2 hours from now.

Best,
Leila


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Leila Zia  wrote:

> [Apologies for cross-posting]
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Almost a year ago, we [1] embarked on a research project to understand who
> Wikipedia readers are. More specifically, we set a goal for finding a
> taxonomy of Wikipedia readers. In the upcoming Research Showcase, I will
> present the findings of this research.
>
> *Logistics*​
> The Research Showcase will be live-streamed on Wednesday, November 16,
> 2016 at 11:35 (PST) 19:35 (UTC).
>
> YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O24F1xkbNwI
>
> As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC freedone at
> #wikimedia-research. And, you can watch our past research showcases at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase.
>
> *Title*
> Why We Read Wikipedia
>
> *Abstract*
> Every day, millions of readers come to Wikipedia to satisfy a broad range
> of information needs, however, little is known about what these needs are.
> In this presentation, I share the result of a research that sets to help us
> understand Wikipedia readers better. Based on an initial user study on
> English, Persian, and Spanish Wikipedia, we build a taxonomy of Wikipedia
> use-cases along several dimensions, capturing users’ motivations to visit
> Wikipedia, the depth of knowledge they are seeking, and their knowledge of
> the topic of interest prior to visiting Wikipedia. Then, we quantify the
> prevalence of these use-cases via a large-scale user survey conducted on
> English Wikipedia. Our analyses highlight the variety of factors driving
> users to Wikipedia, such as current events, media coverage of a topic,
> personal curiosity, work or school assignments, or boredom. Finally, we
> match survey responses to the respondents’ digital traces in Wikipedia’s
> server logs, enabling the discovery of behavioral patterns associated with
> specific use-cases. Our findings advance our understanding of reader
> motivations and behavior on Wikipedia and have potential implications for
> developers aiming to improve Wikipedia’s user experience, editors striving
> to cater to (a subset of) their readers’ needs, third-party services (such
> as search engines) providing access to Wikipedia content, and researchers
> aiming to build tools such as article recommendation engines.
>
>
> *How to prepare? What to expect?*
> If you decide to attend, here are a few things I would like to ask you to
> keep in mind, especially if this will be your first time to one of our
> research showcases:
>
> * Like many other research projects in fields that are not heavily
> explored, the findings of this research will create more questions than
> they answer. I encourage you to keep these questions in mind throughout the
> presentation and discussion: "What can we do with this finding? What other
> questions can we ask? What other ideas can we try?"
>
> * Be open to ask these questions to yourself, especially if you are a
> Wikipedia editor, even before coming to the showcase: "Why do I edit
> Wikipedia? Who am I writing the content for, if anyone? Will I change the
> way I write content if I know more about who reads it (to encourage or
> discourage certain types of reading or readers)? What needs an encyclopedia
> should serve? What is Wikipedia: A place one can quickly find the answer to
> his/her questions, or a place that one can go to when he/she wants to spend
> a quiet time reading and learning, or a place for both and even more? etc."
>
> * And, see if you would be interested to see the result of this study in
> your language. What will be presented is based on research on English,
> Persian, and Spanish Wikipedia (the data from the latter two projects have
> been used only for one part of the research). We are interested in running
> the study on at least 2-3 more languages to understand the robustness of
> some of the results across different languages, and to also help
> communities with having access to the results for their specific language
> project.
>
> ​Looking forward to seeing you there, and if you can't make it, please
> feel free to watch the video later and get in touch with us with
> questions/comments. :)
>
> Best,
> Leila
> --
> Leila Zia
> Senior Research Scientist
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> ​[1] WMF Research and researchers from three academic institutions: EPFL,
> GESIS, and Stanford University, in collaboration with WMF Reading.
> ​
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apple Pay donations

[rupert THURNER]

Ah, I saw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pay now, which says it
takes a part of the credit card fees, 0.15 % in the US. Lower in the
European Union as fees for credit cards must be lower than 0.3 %.

This would mean a normal credit card payment fee applies, isn't it?

Rupert

On Nov 16, 2016 09:11, "Kevin Payravi"  wrote:

> Hi Rupert,
>
> The 30% you're referring to is the cut Apple takes for in-app purchases.
> Apple Pay is a different platform; neither consumer, merchant, or in this
> case, donor and receiver, are charged a fee.
>
> Kevin Payravi
> W: www.kevinpayravi.com
> E: kevinpayr...@gmail.com
> P: (330) 554 - 3397
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:06 AM, rupert THURNER 
> wrote:
>
> > Apple takes their usual 30 % on such donations ?
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2016 02:12, "Steven Walling" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > Today Apple announced a bunch of 501(c)3 partners which now can use
> Apple
> > > Pay to make instant donations. Announcement at:
> > > http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/11/a-touch-of-giving-
> > > with-apple-pay.html
> > >
> > > Does WMF fundraising have plans to integrate with Apple Pay, especially
> > on
> > > mobile devices? I understand that right now it's limited to the US and
> > the
> > > team has been focusing a ton on international payment providers (which
> is
> > > great). Given that payments on mobile are such a huge headache and
> > > declining desktop traffic to Wikimedia properties, it might be an
> > > interesting pilot to explore nonetheless.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Signing out with my official hat!

[Subhashish Panigrahi]

Thank you so much Anna, Gerard, Jorge, Katherine and Katy for your kind words 
-- really honored. I have had the opportunity to work with some of you and the 
experience has been really amazing. Katy, I cannot thank you more for all the 
great support that you have given to us over the years. In the coming days, I 
will continue to connect with you all as a community member, and may be also in 
my professional capacity.

Love,
Subha

Best!
Subhashish Panigrahi
Programme Officer, Access To Knowledge
Centre for Internet and Society
@subhapa / https://cis-india.org

- Original Message -
From: "Katy Love" 
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 6:24:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Signing out with my official hat!

Hi Subha,

Congratulations on your new role at Mozilla! I will miss working with you
and learning from you! You have always been kind, patient, and committed to
both sharing and learning. Thank you for all you've done for the Wikimedia
movement! We'll miss you!

Katy

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
subhash...@cis-india.org> wrote:

> 
>
> Friends,
>
> TL; DR
>
> After almost five years of professional engagement with the South Asian
> language Wikimedia communities, I have decided to step down from my current
> role. And I will remain a Wikipedian friend of yours who you can reach out
> in volunteer capacity on my talk page.
>
> ——
>
> I was about to complete my first wiki-versary when I joined the Wikimedia
> Foundation’s India Program as a Consultant for Community and Program
> Support. The program ran until August of 2012 and then got housed at the
> Centre for Internet Society’s Access to Knowledge program (CIS-A2K) [0].
> Thanks to Sunil, Pranesh, Nirmita, Nishant and many others at the CIS
> family who embraced my team from India Program with great amount of trust.
> CIS became more like a family for me all these years. It will always remain
> my other home and alma mater - calling CIS a former employer will be quite
> an understatement. I feel I grew as a person along with the organization
> that is today a noted name for its research in openness, accessibility,
> privacy, IP reform, access to knowledge, and digital humanity.
>
> Over these years I have had the most memorable time in my personal and
> professional life. I have traveled a lot in the country and across the
> world, met many friends in the Wikimedia and the open knowledge community,
> and had the privilege of working on many important projects both locally
> and globally. The South Asian language Wikimedia communities that I have
> worked with have not just been patient and understanding, but have been my
> mentor in many ways. I thank you all wholeheartedly for being such great
> friends and guides. And I hope that I have added some value to your
> community, project and the larger Wikimedia movement.
>
> This was an incredible journey and I feel really honored to see as many as
> three new Wikimedia projects taking birth where I had a chance to
> contribute. Many of you have shared your stories in an interview series
> WikipediansSpeak [1] that I started during my time at CIS, and I felt so
> touched and connected to many people that spoke languages that I never even
> understood. I want to thank many Wikimedians both from the Indian and the
> global Wikimedia community that participated in @WeAreWikipedia [2], a
> rotation curation project on Twitter that I started as a voluntary project.
> The good news is @WeAreWikipedia has always been and will be a
> volunteer-led project even after I leave my professional role at CIS.
>
> In the last few days of my work at CIS, my biggest worry was if I will be
> able to give much time to wrap up Project Ol Chiki [3], a project to create
> typeface family and input tools for the Ol Chiki script (used to write the
> Santali language) that I was leading. I would like to personally thank to
> colleagues T.Vishnuvardhan (former Programme Director of CIS-A2K) for his
> guidance, Pooja Saxena for designing the typeface and several other
> peripherals, Prof. Damayanti Besra and other friends of the
> Santali-language community who have reviewed the typeface, and Wikimedians
> Jnanaranjan Sahu and Nasim Ali who have created the input tools. A few
> years of my childhood was spent in a place where 30% of people spoke this
> aboriginal language Santali, and I cannot share how nostalgic it felt when
> the opportunity came to lead this project.
>
> Once again, thanks you all the friends in the Wikimedia community, and the
> larger openness movement for your kind support over all these years. In the
> long road, this was a great milestone but there are many more to come. I
> hope to continue working with you in my volunteer capacity, and/or may be
> in my new role.
>
> Where I am heading next?
> Some of you might know this already. I am super excited that the next
> milestone is going to 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apple Pay donations

[Kevin Payravi]

Hi Rupert,

The 30% you're referring to is the cut Apple takes for in-app purchases.
Apple Pay is a different platform; neither consumer, merchant, or in this
case, donor and receiver, are charged a fee.

Kevin Payravi
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:06 AM, rupert THURNER 
wrote:

> Apple takes their usual 30 % on such donations ?
>
> On Nov 15, 2016 02:12, "Steven Walling"  wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Today Apple announced a bunch of 501(c)3 partners which now can use Apple
> > Pay to make instant donations. Announcement at:
> > http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/11/a-touch-of-giving-
> > with-apple-pay.html
> >
> > Does WMF fundraising have plans to integrate with Apple Pay, especially
> on
> > mobile devices? I understand that right now it's limited to the US and
> the
> > team has been focusing a ton on international payment providers (which is
> > great). Given that payments on mobile are such a huge headache and
> > declining desktop traffic to Wikimedia properties, it might be an
> > interesting pilot to explore nonetheless.
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