[Wikimedia-l] Ask Amazon, Apple, Google, and Microsoft to state wiki article source dates in voice?

2018-03-07 Thread James Salsman 
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large
companies using our information without complying with the license
terms:

https://www.ted.com/talks/scott_galloway_how_amazon_apple_facebook_and_google_manipulate_our_emotions

One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine
Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date
of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from
them.

Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new
editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.

Best regards,
Jim

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-07 Thread Chris Keating 
Hi Zubin,

> As a rare newcomer to the Wikimedia project, I've been thinking of some of
> the factors that seem to discourage me from contributing and one of the
> primary ones seem to be the fact that the way the administration is
> organized and rules enforced is often vague and unclear. The definition and
> the method of collection of the vague idea of "Consensus" aren't easily
> found and take a lot of digging to get out.

It's interesting you mention this. I was discussing Wikipedia the
other week with participants in another online learning community, and
it really struck me just how much of a focus Wikipedia has on very
dense rules about content, and how little a focus we have on community
and positive interactions.

There are an immense number of guidelines and policies, but discourse
on-wiki is often mainly a string of references to these policies and
guidelines - which is baffling for anyone unfamiliar with them, and
doubtless a big turnoff for anyone who *isn't* familiar with them who
wants to take part (even if you can navigate the technical aspects of
talking to people.) By contrast, praise, thanks and encouragement are
fairly scarce.

Regards,

Chris

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2018-03-07 Thread Saroj Dhakal via Wikimedia-l 
Congratulations all !

Thanks,
Saroj

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Moheen Reeyad 
wrote:

>  Congratulations to everyone!
>
>
> *Moheen Reeyad*@moheenreeyad 
> moheenreeyad.xyz
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Alangi Derick <
> alangi.der...@wikipedia.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > With due respect Katherine Maher, Narunnaby Hasive and everyone else,
> thank
> > you all very much for the warm welcome. I'm grateful to serve the
> Wikimedia
> > movement as a member of the Affiliations Committee and beyond. :)
> >
> > *Kind regards,*
> > *Derick N. Alangi*
> >
> > *V. Developer @ Wikimedia*
> > *Co-founder & Technical Lead, Africa Wikimedia Developers (AWMD)*
> >
> > *More infos: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alangi_Derick
> > *
> >
> > *[image: https://twitter.com/AlangiDerick]
> > 
> >   *
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <
> > nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to all!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hasive
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Katherine Maher  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations to Sami, Derick, and Biplab on your new appointments,
> > > Emna
> > > > and Maor on your reappointments, and thank you Galileo for your many
> > > years
> > > > of service!
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Lucas Teles 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Congratulations to the approved ones and thanks Galio for so many
> > years
> > > > of
> > > > > work!
> > > > >
> > > > > Teles
> > > > >
> > > > > Em qua, 24 de jan de 2018 às 13:04, Bijay chaurasia <
> > > > > bijaychaurasi...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Congratulations.
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Bijay
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 24 Jan 2018 8:59 a.m., "Rémy Gerbet" <
> remy.ger...@wikimedia.fr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Congratulations to you all !!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Gerbet Rémy*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Chargé de Mission Politique Territoriale**07 84 37 91 04*
> > > > > > > *---**--
> ---*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la
> > > > connaissance
> > > > > > > *www.wikimedia.fr  *
> > > > > > > *40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*
> > > > > > >  > > 86814/2.34683
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * 
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-01-23 17:00 GMT+01:00 Galileo Vidoni :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks to Kirill and to the rest of the committee for their
> > kind
> > > > > words.
> > > > > > > > I'm very fond of having served AffCom and I'm always
> available
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > my past experience could be useful.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As to Stu's question —yes, there have been cases of outgoing
> > > > > committee
> > > > > > > > members not being re-appointed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Galileo
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El 23 ene. 2018 4:37 p. m., "Stuart Prior" <
> > > > > > > stuart.pr...@wikimedia.org.uk>
> > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Congratulations to those re-selected and newly appointed, and
> > > > > > > > commiserations to those unsuccessful.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I do have one question spurred on by the consistent
> > re-selection
> > > of
> > > > > > > > existing members for the past two rounds which will might
> > > require a
> > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > collective institutional memory to answer.
> > > > > > > > Has anyone putting themselves forward for re-selection ever
> not
> > > > been
> > > > > > > > re-appointed by the committee?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Stuart
> > > > > > > > (User:Battleofalma)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 23 January 2018 at 13:52, Nabin K. Sapkota <
> > > > > > > nboycreationne...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Congratulations to all newly appointed and reappointed
> > members.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Nabin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 23 January 2018 at 19:33, Kirill Lokshin <
> > > > > > kirill.loks...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm pleased to announce that Derick Ndimnain Alangi,
> Biplab
> > > > > Anand,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > Sami
> > > > > > > > > > Mlouhi have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-07 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak 
hi Zubin,

thanks for being a newcomer to Wikimedia, and also for your interest in the
issue of bureaucracy. I think you're right that it is something worth
analyzing. A chapter of my "Common Knowledge? An Ethnography of Wikipedia"
(2014, Stanford University Press) was dedicated to studying the issue. You
can peruse it, also to see other references on the topic. I am not aware of
strong quantitative studies of the problem though, as it is quite difficult
to account for all the factors, in different projects, etc.

best,

dj "pundit"


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Professor of Management
Chair of MINDS (Management in Networked and Digital Societies) Department
Kozminski University
 http://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl  

associate faculty at Berkman-Klein Center for Internet and Society,
Harvard University
*Recent articles:*

   - Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of
   Quality of Information on Wikipedias
   
*Journal
   of the Association for Information Science and Technology* 68:  10.
2460–2470.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Wikimedia Movement Governance: The Limits
   of A-Hierarchical Organization
    *Journal
   of Organizational Change Management *29:  3.  361-378.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak, Eduard Aibar (2016)  Bridging the Gap Between
   Wikipedia and Academia
    *Journal of the
   Association for Information Science and Technology* 67:  7.  1773-1776.
   - Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Breaking the Glass Ceiling on Wikipedia
    *Feminist
   Review *113:  1.  103-108.
   - Tadeusz Chełkowski, Peter Gloor, Dariusz Jemielniak (2016)  Inequalities
   in Open Source Software Development: Analysis of Contributor’s Commits in
   Apache Software Foundation Projects
   

   , *PLoS ONE* 11:  4.  e0152976.


On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Zubin JAIN 
wrote:

> Hello,
> As a rare newcomer to the Wikimedia project, I've been thinking of some of
> the factors that seem to discourage me from contributing and one of the
> primary ones seem to be the fact that the way the administration is
> organized and rules enforced is often vague and unclear. The definition and
> the method of collection of the vague idea of "Consensus" aren't easily
> found and take a lot of digging to get out.
>
> A lot of the guideline is often mixed with philosophical rants that often
> seem to contradict each other and has grown in size to the point that it's
> unreasonable for any newcomer to have read through it all. The project
> designed to work on consensus and community often seems unresponsive and
> automated as anarchic communication structure impedes effective
> communication by forcing users to learn an obscure markup language just to
> communicate.
>
> I'm wondering if there have been any whitepapers on addressing these
> problems especialy the ones about bureaucracy, reading through the news I
> remember a lot of hay being made about a decline in Wikipedia editor from a
> few years back but that seems ot have faded. Is there any hard data on the
> future trajectory of the project?
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Zubin Jain
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