[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Florence Devouard]

I feel very sad as well. His joyful personnality, his energy and 
enthousiasm, and his erudition left me with very fond memories. As 
mentionned by others... a very documented visit of Jerusalem so many 
years ago... Wikimania in Haifa... the coolest projects... the 2022 
award... and yes... his struggles with technology during Wikimania 
committee meetings :) He was a graceful fighter.


My deepest condolences to Deror's family and friends


Ant


Le 06/05/2023 à 19:49, Samuel Klein a écrit :

Ahh no! he will leave such a hole in the world.
What joyful memories I have of exploring history and geography with 
him; and a photo with him from Haifa stills sits on my fridge.


Love and condolences to his family; thank you so much Itzik for 
letting us know.


Sam
❤️‍

On Sat, May 6, 2023, 3:59 AM itzik Edri  wrote:

Dear friends,

I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
(user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.

Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and
soul into the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He
joined Wikipedia in 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia
Israel. For over 16 years, he served as an active board member.

He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key
member of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless
programs and projects, both locally and internationally, including
conferences, WLM competitions, educational programs, photo and
editing contests, and many others.

More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising
more than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in
HEWP, alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.

For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was
honored last year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.

Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years.
No matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes
with your love for Wikipedia.

*On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences
to Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
*ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*


Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[phoebe ayers]

Thank you for letting us know, Itzik; I am so sorry to hear this news.

Deror and I worked on many Wikimanias together, as planners and as members
of the steering committee, but we spent perhaps the most time together on
the program for Wikimania 2017. For that conference, Deror put the hundreds
of submissions we got into wikitables by hand, reviewing and scoring them
all. We had gotten a lot more submissions than we expected, and so we spent
a lot of time talking about how many of the talks we could accept. Why not
just hire more rooms at the venue? Deror would say. He always wanted to
take as many as we could.

In this way and in so many other ways, Deror was a maximalist. He wanted to
know all he could, see everything he could, and share everything he
possibly could with others. When he took me on a tour of Haifa and
Jerusalem, I came away sharing some of the profound wonder and love he had
for these places. When we met up elsewhere in the world for Wikimania,
going on other people's tours was always at the top of the list for Deror
-- he wanted to learn about the home turf of other Wikipedians as much as
he wanted to share his own. He also shared his photos, his belief in
editing Wikipedia, and his profound desire to bring people together at
events and trainings. A Wikipedian with many, many thousands of edits, he
always said he was bad at computers. But this never seemed to discourage
him much.

Funny, enthusiastic, argumentative, joyous Deror: your curiosity and desire
to learn things knew no bounds. I'm lucky to have known you, Wikimedia was
lucky to have you, and you will be very missed. Condolences to his family,
and to his many friends. We will remember you with love and the hope of
carrying on your commitment to open knowledge and spirit of adventure in
the world.

-- Phoebe


On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 6:59 AM itzik Edri  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[effe iets anders]

I have more fond memories of Deror than I can immediately recall - I
remember him as a force of positive energy both on and off stage, usually
in connection to Wikimania. My earliest memories are probably in 2010
Gdansk where Deror was part of the Haifa team trying to soak up as much
experience from previous years' organizers as possible to help pull off
Wikimania in 2011. After that, we kept running into each other, and the
time that we presented the movements' coolest projects and he continued
that series in the years after was probably one of the vivid ones. Always
running around from one odd job to the next, he found time to sit together
and (somewhat chaotically) put a presentation together that brought a smile
on peoples' faces.

Deror, we will miss you and it has been a pleasure and honor to have worked
with you.

Lodewijk

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 11:31 AM Kat Walsh  wrote:

> I am so sorry to hear this; it was always a delight to meet him (and
> often, in my case, to talk about interesting issues in copyright!) and I
> greatly admired his tireless energy and passion for the movement. A huge
> loss to the community; thank you for sharing the news so we can remember
> him together.
>
> -Kat
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 3:59 AM itzik Edri  wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
>> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>>
>> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
>> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
>> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
>> served as an active board member.
>>
>> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
>> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
>> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
>> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
>> others.
>>
>> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more
>> than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP,
>> alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>>
>> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
>> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>>
>> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
>> together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No
>> matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your
>> love for Wikipedia.
>>
>> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
>> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
>> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>>
>>
>> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Kat Walsh]

I am so sorry to hear this; it was always a delight to meet him (and often,
in my case, to talk about interesting issues in copyright!) and I greatly
admired his tireless energy and passion for the movement. A huge loss to
the community; thank you for sharing the news so we can remember him
together.

-Kat

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 3:59 AM itzik Edri  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Raymond Leonard]

May his memory always be a blessing.

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Samuel Klein]

Ahh no! he will leave such a hole in the world.
What joyful memories I have of exploring history and geography with him;
and a photo with him from Haifa stills sits on my fridge.

Love and condolences to his family; thank you so much Itzik for letting us
know.

Sam
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On Sat, May 6, 2023, 3:59 AM itzik Edri  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

[Andreas Kolbe]

Hi Jonathan,

Great post! Thank you for introducing a fresh and compelling perspective
into the conversation, though I would suggest that this needs adjusting to
take into account that Wikimedians' circumstances are vastly different
depnding on where they live – a point I will return to below.

On-wiki, meanwhile, one of the arbitrators, Wugapodes, interprets[1] the
Universal Code of Conduct to mean that sharing another Wikimedian's
personal information and all the other bulletpoint examples of harassment
in the Universal Code of Conduct[2] are *only* unacceptable if the
behaviour fulfils certain criteria laid out in the section's preamble.

This is actually an interesting point. I will explain what he means.

Let's remind ourselves first how the UCoC's Harassment section begins
(emphases mine, in ALLCAPS so they show in the list archive):



3.1 – Harassment

This INCLUDES any behaviour intended primarily to intimidate, outrage or
upset a person, or any behaviour where this would reasonably be considered
the most likely main outcome. Behaviour can be considered harassment if it
is beyond what a reasonable person would be expected to tolerate in a
global, intercultural environment. Harassment often takes the form of
emotional abuse, especially towards people who are in a vulnerable
position, and may include contacting workplaces or friends and family
members in an effort to intimidate or embarrass. In some cases, behaviour
that would not rise to the level of harassment in a single case can become
harassment through repetition. Harassment INCLUDES but is not limited to:

[...]

*Disclosure of personal data (Doxing):* sharing other contributors' private
information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address
without their explicit consent either on the Wikimedia projects or
elsewhere, or sharing information concerning their Wikimedia activity
outside the projects.



Wugapodes argues that sharing someone's name and workplace without their
consent should *only* be unacceptable if it is judged by ArbCom to have
been done *primarily* to "intimidate, outrage or upset a person" and is
"beyond what a reasonable person would be expected to tolerate in a global,
intercultural environment". Not performing this extra test, Wugapodes says,
would lead to "absurd results":

*'In the line you want us to take absurdly literally, we have the line
["]sharing information concerning their Wikimedia activity outside the
projects.["] Well, under your interpretation, looks like half my friends
and family are harassing me. Let me call over my partner, "Yes, hi honey,
remember when you told your friends that I'm a Wikipedia arbitrator? Well,
unfortunately, I did not give you explicit permission to do so and you have
therefore harassed me. I have reported you to the Foundation.'*

I agree with him inasmuch as the literal meaning of the passage he quotes
is patently absurd. (I have said exactly the same before.)

But does the community agree that it is okay for a Wikimedian to share a
fellow Wikimedian's legal name, workplace and so on, as long as it is not
done "primarily" to intimidate etc. and is in line with "what a reasonable
person would be expected to tolerate in a global, intercultural
environment"?

Historically, outing rules on Wikipedia have been much stricter.

One of the reasons for this is that even if there is no *intent* to
intimidate or harm, outing can have *extremely* severe consequences for
Wikimedians, depending on (1) what they write about and (2) where they live
and work – recall the two Wikimedians currently serving long jail sentences
in Saudi Arabia[3].

Moreover, Wugapodes' interpretation, while internally consistent, does not
follow from the UCoC text as it stands. The preamble says what harassment "
INCLUDES" and the bulletpoints also begin with "Harassment INCLUDES ..."

If I have two sentences, "Fruit includes things that taste sweet" and
"Fruit includes apples", it does not logically follow that apples are only
fruit if they taste sweet. Am I the only person who sees a logical
non-sequitur here?

Andreas


[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World_War_II_and_the_history_of_Jews_in_Poland=prev=1153350996
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-01-16/Special_report





On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 4:34 PM  wrote:

> Hello Andreas,
>
> By way of disclosure I am a researcher at the Yale Applied Cryptography
> Laboratory and I have been studying the tension between the right to
> privacy and the need for legal accountability when content is posted
> online.
>
> My working theory is that we need to avoid creating lawless zones on the
> internet.  When content is posted online, the poster has to be accountable
> in some way to avoid social harms like the harassment of individuals or
> groups.
>
> One way we create accountability on Wikipedia and 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

[The Cunctator]

I am personally fully in support of Wikimedia supporting journalism, fwiw.

On Sat, May 6, 2023, 9:08 AM Bobby Shabangu  wrote:

> These are interesting viewpoints indeed.
>
> I think the connection between these awards and Wikipedia (especially in
> the African continent) is clearly stated in the article. In fact, if it was
> me who was writing this press release I would have started that sentence
> with:
>
>- Most African Wikipedians struggle with adding content on the
>English/French Wikipedia because of lack of reliable references, and " *the
>awards recognise the essential role journalists play in creating
>well-researched articles that volunteer editors use as source materials to
>develop content on Wikipedia*"
>
> Colleagues, you will agree with me that there's no one size fits all
> solution to fix our problems. We exist in a dynamic community where
> something that was perfectly fine a few years ago may not work today. I
> personally participated in the development of the MS2030 but I was also
> fully aware that the recommendations of the MS2030 are not a silver bullet
> or a formula to solve all our problems in the movement. It is our
> collective thinking that by implementing the recommendations, our movement
> will be in a better strategic position by year 2030 to address the issues
> stated in the MS2030.
>
> Now does that mean we should say NO to a pilot project that the WMF
> consulted us to try out help close the knowledge gaps in Africa because
> it's not part of the MS2030 which is our silver bullet to solving all our
> problems? I don't know you tell me colleagues.
>
> Best regards,
> Bobby Shabangu
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 11:08, Mrb Rafi  wrote:
>
>> +1 to Paul.
>> I was thinking of the same thing but was confused about how to put it.
>> Many individuals from underrepresented communities, including myself, often
>> feel hesitant to contribute to global-level conversations in a meaningful
>> way and raise their concerns.
>>
>> The connection between Wikimedia and this initiative is too weak. While
>> cost is not the primary concern, the potential impact on Wikimedia is
>> significant for any Wikimedia initiative.
>> I am not trying to discourage our fellow Wikimedians from Africa in any
>> way. On the contrary, I have witnessed firsthand the incredible work they
>> are doing despite facing numerous obstacles, and their contributions often
>> go unrecognized.
>>
>> This is undoubtedly a good initiative that serves the local African
>> community. But how does this serve Wikimedia? How do we measure the direct
>> impact of this initiative on Wikimedia? How is it aligned with MS2030?
>> I am also slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the volunteer
>> organizers are not recognized in any visible place. They deserve proper
>> acknowledgment.
>>
>> From a broader perspective, there's something strange happening in the
>> movement. I fear that the focus is being shifted from community relations
>> and support to somewhere else. In the annual planning community
>> conversation, I expressed my concerns about the apparent reduction in
>> direct professional support from the Foundation for the communities.
>> Instead, it appears that the focus is shifting towards self-organized
>> initiatives, which will never be effective for underrepresented
>> communities. We require direct professional support from the Foundation,
>> which has been provided quietly but effectively in recent years. Wikimedia
>> communities need professional support from the foundation that empowers
>> them from the core and creates the capacity to work more independently.
>>
>> The foundation possesses all the linguistic expertise and the required
>> in-depth, unique, and specialized knowledge of the local Wikimedia
>> community dynamics to align this initiative with MS2030 and enhance its
>> direct impact on the movement. But for some strange reason, they're not
>> doing that—not only for this initiative but almost everywhere; they're
>> instead fully destroying that capacity themselves through the recent
>> layoffs (probably). The radical changes may have a very negative long-term
>> impact on communities, specially the underrepresented ones.
>>
>> I'm not sure, but I'm having the feeling that ideas like DEI and MS2030
>> are being misinterpreted to justify a lot of things that don't necessarily
>> serve DEI or MS2030 in the movement. Even I had the feeling that the draft
>> annual plan was just MS2030-washed without any visible impact. I've always
>> supported the foundation and its staff in any of their meaningful
>> contributions with all my enthusiasm and knowledge as a volunteer, but for
>> the last few days, I've been hesitating.
>> I want everyone, including the foundation, to work in such a way that it
>> creates capacity in the local communities and, at the same time, serves our
>> goals as a movement.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rafi
>>
>> On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:58 AM Paul J. Weiss  wrote:
>>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

[Bobby Shabangu]

And by the way Andreas, I know you are very detailed oriented. We were
consulted about this pilot in South Africa. I was also ask to bring this up
at WikiIndaba Steering Committee (WISCom
) hence you
see winners are going to be announced at the WikiIndaba conference in
Morocco, and results and potential impact of this pilot (including the
language issue) are further going to be discussed there. I see from this
email thread that Derrick and Euphemia were also consulted too,  but I see
that only the working group were added there. What I'm sure about is that
there's a whole lot of ground work that went into this. Maybe to inform the
WMF staff to add the list of all Africans who were consulted. (I need to
note that some members of our community may not agree to be published there
now that this issue has come to Wikimedia Mailing List because they
view this platform as a toxic place).

Which brings me to my request which is somewhat linked to this issue.

If you are an admin, steward  or sysop in the English, French or Arabic
language Wikipedia, kindly reach out to me. We would like to have as many
admins as possible from these languages at WikiIndaba so that we can learn
from you.

Best,
Bobby Shabangu


On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 15:07, Bobby Shabangu  wrote:

> These are interesting viewpoints indeed.
>
> I think the connection between these awards and Wikipedia (especially in
> the African continent) is clearly stated in the article. In fact, if it was
> me who was writing this press release I would have started that sentence
> with:
>
>- Most African Wikipedians struggle with adding content on the
>English/French Wikipedia because of lack of reliable references, and " *the
>awards recognise the essential role journalists play in creating
>well-researched articles that volunteer editors use as source materials to
>develop content on Wikipedia*"
>
> Colleagues, you will agree with me that there's no one size fits all
> solution to fix our problems. We exist in a dynamic community where
> something that was perfectly fine a few years ago may not work today. I
> personally participated in the development of the MS2030 but I was also
> fully aware that the recommendations of the MS2030 are not a silver bullet
> or a formula to solve all our problems in the movement. It is our
> collective thinking that by implementing the recommendations, our movement
> will be in a better strategic position by year 2030 to address the issues
> stated in the MS2030.
>
> Now does that mean we should say NO to a pilot project that the WMF
> consulted us to try out help close the knowledge gaps in Africa because
> it's not part of the MS2030 which is our silver bullet to solving all our
> problems? I don't know you tell me colleagues.
>
> Best regards,
> Bobby Shabangu
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 11:08, Mrb Rafi  wrote:
>
>> +1 to Paul.
>> I was thinking of the same thing but was confused about how to put it.
>> Many individuals from underrepresented communities, including myself, often
>> feel hesitant to contribute to global-level conversations in a meaningful
>> way and raise their concerns.
>>
>> The connection between Wikimedia and this initiative is too weak. While
>> cost is not the primary concern, the potential impact on Wikimedia is
>> significant for any Wikimedia initiative.
>> I am not trying to discourage our fellow Wikimedians from Africa in any
>> way. On the contrary, I have witnessed firsthand the incredible work they
>> are doing despite facing numerous obstacles, and their contributions often
>> go unrecognized.
>>
>> This is undoubtedly a good initiative that serves the local African
>> community. But how does this serve Wikimedia? How do we measure the direct
>> impact of this initiative on Wikimedia? How is it aligned with MS2030?
>> I am also slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the volunteer
>> organizers are not recognized in any visible place. They deserve proper
>> acknowledgment.
>>
>> From a broader perspective, there's something strange happening in the
>> movement. I fear that the focus is being shifted from community relations
>> and support to somewhere else. In the annual planning community
>> conversation, I expressed my concerns about the apparent reduction in
>> direct professional support from the Foundation for the communities.
>> Instead, it appears that the focus is shifting towards self-organized
>> initiatives, which will never be effective for underrepresented
>> communities. We require direct professional support from the Foundation,
>> which has been provided quietly but effectively in recent years. Wikimedia
>> communities need professional support from the foundation that empowers
>> them from the core and creates the capacity to work more independently.
>>
>> The foundation possesses all the linguistic expertise and the required
>> in-depth, unique, and specialized knowledge of the local 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Ndahiro Derrick Alter]

Oh it is such a loss to his family , the Hebrew community and the entire
Wikimedia community,
May his soul Rest In Peace


On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 15:54 Gnangarra  wrote:

> Nyoorn
>
> My condolences to Deror, family and Wikimedia Israel. He was a wonderful
> person who welcomed everyone, Rest Peacefully.
>
> On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 21:21, Bobby Shabangu 
> wrote:
>
>> Sad news to read! sincere condolences to the family and friends.
>>
>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 14:53, pavan santhosh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So sad to know. My condolences to the community and the family. For the
>>> work he has done, he will be remembered forever.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 4:29 PM itzik Edri 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear friends,

 I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
 (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.

 Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul
 into the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia
 in 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years,
 he served as an active board member.

 He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key
 member of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
 projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
 competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
 others.

 More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more
 than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP,
 alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.

 For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored
 last year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.

 Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
 together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No
 matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your
 love for Wikipedia.

 *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
 Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
 *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Gnangarra]

Nyoorn

My condolences to Deror, family and Wikimedia Israel. He was a wonderful
person who welcomed everyone, Rest Peacefully.

On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 21:21, Bobby Shabangu  wrote:

> Sad news to read! sincere condolences to the family and friends.
>
> On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 14:53, pavan santhosh 
> wrote:
>
>> So sad to know. My condolences to the community and the family. For the
>> work he has done, he will be remembered forever.
>>
>> On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 4:29 PM itzik Edri  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
>>> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>>>
>>> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
>>> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
>>> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
>>> served as an active board member.
>>>
>>> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
>>> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
>>> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
>>> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
>>> others.
>>>
>>> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more
>>> than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP,
>>> alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>>>
>>> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
>>> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>>>
>>> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
>>> together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No
>>> matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your
>>> love for Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
>>> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
>>> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>>>
>>>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Bobby Shabangu]

Sad news to read! sincere condolences to the family and friends.

On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 14:53, pavan santhosh 
wrote:

> So sad to know. My condolences to the community and the family. For the
> work he has done, he will be remembered forever.
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 4:29 PM itzik Edri  wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
>> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>>
>> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
>> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
>> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
>> served as an active board member.
>>
>> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
>> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
>> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
>> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
>> others.
>>
>> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more
>> than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP,
>> alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>>
>> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
>> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>>
>> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
>> together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No
>> matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your
>> love for Wikipedia.
>>
>> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
>> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
>> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>>
>>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

[Bobby Shabangu]

These are interesting viewpoints indeed.

I think the connection between these awards and Wikipedia (especially in
the African continent) is clearly stated in the article. In fact, if it was
me who was writing this press release I would have started that sentence
with:

   - Most African Wikipedians struggle with adding content on the
   English/French Wikipedia because of lack of reliable references, and " *the
   awards recognise the essential role journalists play in creating
   well-researched articles that volunteer editors use as source materials to
   develop content on Wikipedia*"

Colleagues, you will agree with me that there's no one size fits all
solution to fix our problems. We exist in a dynamic community where
something that was perfectly fine a few years ago may not work today. I
personally participated in the development of the MS2030 but I was also
fully aware that the recommendations of the MS2030 are not a silver bullet
or a formula to solve all our problems in the movement. It is our
collective thinking that by implementing the recommendations, our movement
will be in a better strategic position by year 2030 to address the issues
stated in the MS2030.

Now does that mean we should say NO to a pilot project that the WMF
consulted us to try out help close the knowledge gaps in Africa because
it's not part of the MS2030 which is our silver bullet to solving all our
problems? I don't know you tell me colleagues.

Best regards,
Bobby Shabangu



On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 11:08, Mrb Rafi  wrote:

> +1 to Paul.
> I was thinking of the same thing but was confused about how to put it.
> Many individuals from underrepresented communities, including myself, often
> feel hesitant to contribute to global-level conversations in a meaningful
> way and raise their concerns.
>
> The connection between Wikimedia and this initiative is too weak. While
> cost is not the primary concern, the potential impact on Wikimedia is
> significant for any Wikimedia initiative.
> I am not trying to discourage our fellow Wikimedians from Africa in any
> way. On the contrary, I have witnessed firsthand the incredible work they
> are doing despite facing numerous obstacles, and their contributions often
> go unrecognized.
>
> This is undoubtedly a good initiative that serves the local African
> community. But how does this serve Wikimedia? How do we measure the direct
> impact of this initiative on Wikimedia? How is it aligned with MS2030?
> I am also slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the volunteer
> organizers are not recognized in any visible place. They deserve proper
> acknowledgment.
>
> From a broader perspective, there's something strange happening in the
> movement. I fear that the focus is being shifted from community relations
> and support to somewhere else. In the annual planning community
> conversation, I expressed my concerns about the apparent reduction in
> direct professional support from the Foundation for the communities.
> Instead, it appears that the focus is shifting towards self-organized
> initiatives, which will never be effective for underrepresented
> communities. We require direct professional support from the Foundation,
> which has been provided quietly but effectively in recent years. Wikimedia
> communities need professional support from the foundation that empowers
> them from the core and creates the capacity to work more independently.
>
> The foundation possesses all the linguistic expertise and the required
> in-depth, unique, and specialized knowledge of the local Wikimedia
> community dynamics to align this initiative with MS2030 and enhance its
> direct impact on the movement. But for some strange reason, they're not
> doing that—not only for this initiative but almost everywhere; they're
> instead fully destroying that capacity themselves through the recent
> layoffs (probably). The radical changes may have a very negative long-term
> impact on communities, specially the underrepresented ones.
>
> I'm not sure, but I'm having the feeling that ideas like DEI and MS2030
> are being misinterpreted to justify a lot of things that don't necessarily
> serve DEI or MS2030 in the movement. Even I had the feeling that the draft
> annual plan was just MS2030-washed without any visible impact. I've always
> supported the foundation and its staff in any of their meaningful
> contributions with all my enthusiasm and knowledge as a volunteer, but for
> the last few days, I've been hesitating.
> I want everyone, including the foundation, to work in such a way that it
> creates capacity in the local communities and, at the same time, serves our
> goals as a movement.
>
> Best,
> Rafi
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:58 AM Paul J. Weiss  wrote:
>
>> To me, this award is reaching well beyond the scope of what the Wikimedia
>> community should be doing. It does not, to me, align with our Movement
>> Strategy's recommendations
>> 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[pavan santhosh]

So sad to know. My condolences to the community and the family. For the
work he has done, he will be remembered forever.

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 4:29 PM itzik Edri  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

[Andreas Kolbe]

Dear Bobby, Shola and all,

You say, "We (Africans) were consulted".

According to Meta[1], the Working Group for these awards comprised four
English-speaking Wikimedians (at least two of whom are themselves
journalists) from Nigeria, Ghana, South Sudan and Kenya.

At the time of writing, the Meta page has been translated into German,
Italian and Korean only. That's an odd assortment of languages for a
pan-African award!

It doesn't create the impression that there was a signficant amount of
involvement by the large African communities speaking and writing in
French, Arabic, Portuguese, Swahili or Afrikaans, for example.

Another noteworthy aspect is that while Wikimedia staff are not eligible
for participation, African Wikimedia volunteers are. This could potentially
include members of the Working Group itself, as well as their friends and
colleagues from their local Wikimedia user groups.

The documentation says very little about how the winners will be
determined. All I found was this:

· *The Wikimedia Foundation (in collaboration with volunteer Wikimedia
editors), through its discretion, will use these nominations to help
identify journalists for this recognition.*

Could the team say a little more about how conflicts of interest will be
managed?

Also, I would second what The Cunctator said earlier: "It might help to
explicitly mention the awareness of these language issues in the public
presentation of this effort." Just saying that this is a first effort and
that other languages will be considered in future years would help a lot.

For example, you could commit to just having French next year, Arabic the
year after that, etc.

At the moment, the incongruity between the professed emphasis on
"diversity, equity and inclusion" and the restriction to English that
follows immediately after is very striking.

This said, I hope you get great entries and look forward to reading the
winning entries in due course.

Best,
Andreas

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_the_Knowledge_Journalism_Awards

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 3:38 AM Bobby Shabangu 
wrote:

> Thanks for your email and concerns about inclusion Andreas. We (Africans)
> were consulted.
>
> And thanks Shola for that response. The key word here is “Pilot”. Looking
> forward to the results and impact of this project in future.
>
> Best regards,
> Bobby Shabangu
>
> On Fri, 05 May 2023 at 18:45, Neurodivergent Netizen <
> idoh.idreamofhor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know there are cultures in the world that regard English as a litmus
>> test with regards to whether or not you’re educated, and was wondering if
>> that added a layer of nuance to the conversation. However, this changed my
>> mind:
>>
>>
>> Q: My article is in French, Portuguese, Swahili, or any other language
>>> that is not English. Can I submit a translated version?
>>>
>> A: This year’s awards are focused on articles published in English. We
>> are *not accepting translated articles*.
>>
>>
>> While I share Cunctators enthusiasm about the Working Group, the decision
>> to not accept even a translated article has an exclusionary impact
>> regardless of intent.
>>
>> From,
>> Emily
>> She/her
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 5, 2023, at 8:05 AM, The Cunctator  wrote:
>>
>> While I share the concerns expressed, I'm personally enthusiastic about
>> the thoughtfulness and initiative of the Working Group. It might help to
>> explicitly mention the awareness of these language issues in the public
>> presentation of this effort.
>>
>> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 10:45 AM Andreas Kolbe  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>>
>>> In your reply to Olushola you said:
>>>
>>> "I hope you can perhaps also clarify whether 'in English' means that the
>>> original article has to be available in English, or that some translation
>>> should be available in English."
>>>
>>> As Shola hasn't provided any clarification on this, note that the FAQ[1]
>>> for the award states:
>>>
>>> Q: My article is in French, Portuguese, Swahili, or any other language
>>> that is not English. Can I submit a translated version?
>>> A: This year’s awards are focused on articles published in English. We
>>> are *not accepting translated articles*.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/our-work/open-the-knowledge/journalism-awards/#a5-frequently-asked-questions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 4, 2023, effe iets anders 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Olushola,
>>> > thanks for working on efforts like this. I think it's definitely our
>>> African communities that should be the judge of what shape works best for
>>> an award like this. Out of curiosity, as a way for us all to learn and
>>> maybe for Africans among us who want to participate in this conversation
>>> that you refer to, could you link to where this conversation/consultation
>>> is happening?
>>> > I hope you can perhaps also clarify whether 'in English' means that
>>> the original article has to be available in English, or that some
>>> translation 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Camelia Boban]

Hi Itzik,
A heart breaking news news; for what they do every day, Wikimedians should
be eternal.

Deepest condolences to your community and his family, we are loosing a
committed Wikimedian.

Camelia


Il sab 6 mag 2023, 13:14 Ziko van Dijk  ha scritto:

> Dear Itzik,
> What terrible news! Many Wikipedians, including me, remember him from his
> long time work, also internationally. A really great person.
> Very sad news.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> itzik Edri  schrieb am Sa. 6. Mai 2023 um 12:59:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
>> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>>
>> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
>> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
>> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
>> served as an active board member.
>>
>> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
>> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
>> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
>> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
>> others.
>>
>> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more
>> than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP,
>> alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>>
>> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
>> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>>
>> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
>> together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No
>> matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your
>> love for Wikipedia.
>>
>> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
>> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
>> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>>
>>
>> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Winnie kabintie]

Sad to learn of Deror’s demise! Had the pleasure of interacting with him as
part of the 2021 Wikimania COT. Such a great soul.

May he RIP

On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 14:14, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:

> Dear Itzik,
> What terrible news! Many Wikipedians, including me, remember him from his
> long time work, also internationally. A really great person.
> Very sad news.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> itzik Edri  schrieb am Sa. 6. Mai 2023 um 12:59:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
>> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>>
>> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
>> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
>> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
>> served as an active board member.
>>
>> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
>> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
>> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
>> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
>> others.
>>
>> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more
>> than 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP,
>> alongside more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>>
>> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
>> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>>
>> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked
>> together on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No
>> matter the situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your
>> love for Wikipedia.
>>
>> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
>> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
>> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>>
>>
>> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Ziko van Dijk]

Dear Itzik,
What terrible news! Many Wikipedians, including me, remember him from his
long time work, also internationally. A really great person.
Very sad news.
Kind regards
Ziko

itzik Edri  schrieb am Sa. 6. Mai 2023 um 12:59:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Mehrdad Pourzaki]

Deepest sympathies and condolences to his friends, family, colleagues, and
fellow Wikimedians.
We've lost a real gem. His passion for his community and our whole movement
was unmatchable.
The impact of his countless contributions will never erode. Will miss his
smile dearly.

Mehrdad



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On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM itzik Edri  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Johan Jönsson]

Itzik, these are sad news indeed. Deror did so much for the movement, for
so long – in different places, in different ways. Thank you for letting us
know.

Best,

//Johan Jönsson
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Den lör 6 maj 2023 kl 12:59 skrev itzik Edri :

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Deror Lin passed away

[Kiril Simeonovski]

Hi Itzik,

This is shocking and heart-wrenching news. My deepest condolences to
Deror's family and friends, as well as to Wikimedia Israel, the Hebrew
Wikipedia community and the global community for this huge loss. Deror was
a good friend of mine, we worked together in many volunteer capacities in
the movement and spent many memorable moments at Wikimedia-related events.

Kiril

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 12:59 PM itzik Edri  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
> (user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.
>
> Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
> the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
> 2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
> served as an active board member.
>
> He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member
> of the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and
> projects, both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM
> competitions, educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many
> others.
>
> More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
> 2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
> more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.
>
> For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
> year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.
>
> Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
> on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
> situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
> Wikipedia.
>
> *On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to
> Deror's family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
> *ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*
>
>
> Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Deror Lin passed away

[itzik Edri]

Dear friends,

I'm sorry to update that our friend and colleague Deror Lin
(user:Deror_Avi) passed away this morning.

Deror was a truly Wikimedian in blood who poured his heart and soul into
the movement in many ways, even in his final days. He joined Wikipedia in
2004 and was one of the founders of Wikimedia Israel. For over 16 years, he
served as an active board member.

He was the driving force behind Wikimania 2011 in Haifa and a key member of
the Wikimania committee ever since. He led countless programs and projects,
both locally and internationally, including conferences, WLM competitions,
educational programs, photo and editing contests, and many others.

More than that, he wrote over 8,600 articles on HEWP (comprising more than
2% of it!), making him the number one article writer in HEWP, alongside
more than 37,000 contributions to Commons.

For his huge contribution and love for the movement, he was honored last
year as the Wikipedia Laureate of 2022.

Deror, you were not just a colleague but a true friend. We worked together
on many projects, events, and initiatives over the years. No matter the
situation, you always had a smile and shining eyes with your love for
Wikipedia.

*On behalf of Wikimedia Israel, I extend our deepest condolences to Deror's
family and friends. You will always be remembered, Deror.*
*ברוך דיין האמת. Baruch dayan ha-emet*


Itzik.
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

[Mrb Rafi]

+1 to Paul.
I was thinking of the same thing but was confused about how to put it. Many
individuals from underrepresented communities, including myself, often feel
hesitant to contribute to global-level conversations in a meaningful way
and raise their concerns.

The connection between Wikimedia and this initiative is too weak. While
cost is not the primary concern, the potential impact on Wikimedia is
significant for any Wikimedia initiative.
I am not trying to discourage our fellow Wikimedians from Africa in any
way. On the contrary, I have witnessed firsthand the incredible work they
are doing despite facing numerous obstacles, and their contributions often
go unrecognized.

This is undoubtedly a good initiative that serves the local African
community. But how does this serve Wikimedia? How do we measure the direct
impact of this initiative on Wikimedia? How is it aligned with MS2030?
I am also slightly uncomfortable with the fact that the volunteer
organizers are not recognized in any visible place. They deserve proper
acknowledgment.

>From a broader perspective, there's something strange happening in the
movement. I fear that the focus is being shifted from community relations
and support to somewhere else. In the annual planning community
conversation, I expressed my concerns about the apparent reduction in
direct professional support from the Foundation for the communities.
Instead, it appears that the focus is shifting towards self-organized
initiatives, which will never be effective for underrepresented
communities. We require direct professional support from the Foundation,
which has been provided quietly but effectively in recent years. Wikimedia
communities need professional support from the foundation that empowers
them from the core and creates the capacity to work more independently.

The foundation possesses all the linguistic expertise and the required
in-depth, unique, and specialized knowledge of the local Wikimedia
community dynamics to align this initiative with MS2030 and enhance its
direct impact on the movement. But for some strange reason, they're not
doing that—not only for this initiative but almost everywhere; they're
instead fully destroying that capacity themselves through the recent
layoffs (probably). The radical changes may have a very negative long-term
impact on communities, specially the underrepresented ones.

I'm not sure, but I'm having the feeling that ideas like DEI and MS2030 are
being misinterpreted to justify a lot of things that don't necessarily
serve DEI or MS2030 in the movement. Even I had the feeling that the draft
annual plan was just MS2030-washed without any visible impact. I've always
supported the foundation and its staff in any of their meaningful
contributions with all my enthusiasm and knowledge as a volunteer, but for
the last few days, I've been hesitating.
I want everyone, including the foundation, to work in such a way that it
creates capacity in the local communities and, at the same time, serves our
goals as a movement.

Best,
Rafi

On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:58 AM Paul J. Weiss  wrote:

> To me, this award is reaching well beyond the scope of what the Wikimedia
> community should be doing. It does not, to me, align with our Movement
> Strategy's recommendations
>  nor
> their initiatives
> , nor the WMF
> 2023-2024 Annual Plan
> .
> Just because something might be positive for the world or our community
> does not mean we should do such. As a gay man, I appreciate all the
> literature awards for LGBT+ books, but I would not support such an award
> from the WMF or the community. Where would this stop? Is it in scope for us
> to give an award for scientific research? Social justice activism?
> Translation software? These could all be beneficial to our community, but I
> don't think it would be appropriate for us to take on those endeavors.
>
> In addition I am concerned this award will have negative effects on our
> fundraising. I would expect that some donors, if they found out we are
> awarding $3,500 to journalists in no way connected to our wikis, might be
> less likely to donate. I think this kind of thing has happened to other
> non-profits.
>
> We are stretched too thin enough already. I believe that we should stick
> to our core activities, which stem from the documents linked to above.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
> User:Libcub
>
> On 2023-05-04 1:47 PM, Olushola Olaniyan wrote:
>
>
> *Dear all, *
>
>
> *My name is Olushola (User: Olaniyan Olushola). I am from Africa and have
> been a Wikimedia since 2014 and passionate about language. I co-lead the
> Oral History documentation of Nigerian indigenous languages ( see more
> about it **here*
> 
> * ). 

[Wikimedia-l] List REPLY settings? *(Was: Re: Invitation to WikiAfrica Hour episode 25)

[Željko Blaće]

Sorry to keep bringing this up every few months,
but if there is no self-discipline and/or moderation over list,
can we at least change List REPLY settings to not default to all
but to be a specific email sender?

Thank you for considering!

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 4:08 PM Belinda Mbambo  wrote:
> Hi Ces, how are you ?
> Can you talk on mobile right now\?
>
> Belinda Mbambo
> Senior Manager: Global Movement Communications
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:45 PM Ceslause Ogbonnaya 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> WikiAfrica Hour episode 25 is the launch of Wikimedia Foundation's Open the 
>> Knowledge Journalism Awards! These awards will celebrate the contributions 
>> of journalists who prioritize diversity, equity and inclusion in their 
>> reporting, thereby adding to the ecosystem of fact-based stories that the 
>> public can draw on to add and verify knowledge on Wikipedia and Wikimedia 
>> projects.
>>
>> This year’s awards will be focused on the African continent.
>>
>> Guests include:
>>
>> Romeo Ramora - Member, Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards Working Group
>> Olaniyan Olushola - Member, Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards Working 
>> Group
>> Winnie Kabintie - Member, Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards Working Group
>> Gwadamirai Majange - Member, Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards Working 
>> Group
>>
>> Date:3rd May 2023.
>> Time:4pm UTC.
>> Details: http://w.wiki/5dft
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