[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Kaya I'd like to my perspective from wikimania side the amount of effort volunteers and time to bring every session alive on commons is all consuming yes YouTube is the best place to put that content. It gets harder the smaller the event is. Video needs to be addresses as a priority along with

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

+1 to Galder. Sharing a current situation. A significant number of non wikimedian photographers participate in the wiki loves X campaigns and since the upload process in commons is complex than any other site, most of them feel lost and don't retain. We are arranging wiki loves folklore in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Thank you Yaroslav, I would very much appreciate a link to the discussion. By not having a Youtube 2.0 we are avoiding a Wikipedia 2.0 with pure encyclopaedic videos. I see a false dilemma there. El mar, 23 ene 2024 a las 16:03, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga (< galder...@hotmail.com>) escribió: >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Thanks to everyone for your comments. We don't need to worry about Commons being "Youtube 2.0", because we can't embed Commons video outside. Furthermore, we can't even embed Commons images or videos in Diff, because oEmbed is not working for Commons and Wordpress can't take directly images or

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Yes we see this sentiment regarding a number of issues in our movement. The existing community wants to keep certain processes more difficult / time consuming to make sure that those involved in the process are sufficiently "dedicated". Maybe we just need a flag which can be given to allow

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Specifically related to video uploads, we had discussions on Commons on different strategic issues recently, in particular, about this. The general sentiment was, to my understanding (pls correct me if I am wrong) that Commons has no ambition to become Youtube 2.0 and we do not have any resources

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Converting them to suitably compact files in h.264/aac in .MP4 format would be by far the simplest way. Use ffmpeg as we do on the server side for online playback. Conforming to the arbitrary Wikimedia prohibition on h.264 you could use mpeg-4 visual instead, still in .mp4 - afaik patents are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

It would be amazing if one could play videos on iPhones when the videos are within ZIMs in an offline environment aswell. Brion not sure what barriers there are to this currently? James On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > Should read 2030

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Should read 2030 Strategy, not 2023 strategy, sorry. Paulo Santos Perneta escreveu (terça, 23/01/2024 à(s) 19:41): > I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. We are currently grappling > with rather rudimentary approaches when it comes to uploading and reusing > video and music files... >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

My recommendations for Wikimedia Foundation on this subject: 1) Overturn the requirement to avoid handling h.264 files on Wikimedia servers or accept them from users or serve them to users. Allow importing h.264 uploads and creating h.264 transcodes for playback compatibility. 2) Create an

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. We are currently grappling with rather rudimentary approaches when it comes to uploading and reusing video and music files... The incredibly useful Graph has been down for quite some time. The extensive capabilities of Wikidata query representations,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Also, note that Wikimedia can choose to ship h.264 files at any time, just like we use CPUs full of patented technology; not doing so is a choice the Commons community made in 2014 and we could revisit that choice in the light of the fact there's no actual downside of working with h.264 when we're

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Hard email to read, but Galder's are quite of indisputable thoughts and the harsh reality of Wikimedia's technological state of the art. Yet this incontestability is, at the same time, the very profound problem: the WMF will not refute it, nor structurally change it, besides silences and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

(What I *have* been able to do, with the help of volunteers and a little spare time from colleagues, is produce an iOS-compatible HTTP Live Streaming packaging for video transcodes. This gets full-featured video playback working on iPhones that are new enough to decode VP9, though may still have

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Agreed, there is a *lot* we could do if there were resources assigned to interactive media. -- brion On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:29 AM James Heilman wrote: > Thanks Galder > > As mentioned Wiki Project Med is working to improve some of these issues > this year, supported by funding from the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Thanks Galder As mentioned Wiki Project Med is working to improve some of these issues this year, supported by funding from the WMF. 1) We are still trying to get OWID working on Wikipedia. Here is what it looks like on MDWiki . 2) We are also

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Hi Galder, I certainly share your sentiment. The world is undoubtedly moving at such a speed that other sites have invested millions to make the experience better. But ours has millions as well, and those of us who edit on a day-to-day basis still have the worst internet experience when it comes

[Wikimedia-l] We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

Dear wikimedians, Nearly one year ago, the Graphs extension was disabled from all wikis, because there was a security issue that should be solved (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940). A wide team from the WMF worked on a solution for some weeks, but after Northern Hemisphere spring