Re: [Wikimedia-l] Damage compensation to photographer for violation of license of a photo taken from Commons
Interesting. I have personally experienced the same kind of violtion of rights many times from media and other professional authors, and I have several times asked for compensation which they have always granted. This includes large national media and the state broadcaster. I have usually claimed 500-1,000 USD, and always received the claimed amouny without the use of lawyers. Erlend Den tirsdag 28. juni 2016 skrev Cristian Consonni <kikkocrist...@gmail.com> følgende: > Hi, > > Last week a small case of copyright violation come to a positive > conclusion. > > Niccolò Caranti [[User:Jaqen]] is a Wikipedian and as a professional > photographer also a very prolific Commons contributor to the point > that he is a sysop both on itwiki and Commons. > > He recently discovered that one of his photos was used for an event > without respecting the terms of the CC-BY-SA license, i.e. without > proper attribution to him and reference to the license. > > Supported by Simone Aliprandi - a lawyer specializing in intellectual > property and author of a number of (free/libre) books on the topic of > licenses and Creative Commons in particular - they sent a formal > request to the organizers of the event. > > The issue has been resolved amicably with all legal costs paid by the > agency that was working for the organizers of the event (who admitted > their mistake) and a compensation for the author. > > You can read more about this case here: > > https://aliprandi.blogspot.it/2016/06/photo-from-wikipedia-violation-license-caranti.html > > Cristian > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > ?subject=unsubscribe> -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org <http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us> ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
[Wikimedia-l] New ED of Wikimedia Norway
Dear friends in the Wikimedia movement, With much gratitude and anticipation, the Board of WMNO this week named Astrid Carlsen, Executive Director of Wikimedia Norway! Many of you already know Astrid as a dedicated, energetic, and knowledgable colleague, and we are pleased that Astrid excepted to take the challenge of more direct responsibility and leadership in the organisation. Astrid has been our GLAM officer during the last 1,5 years. She has already performed several executive functions, and this codification of that experience is a natural next step for all of us. We are thrilled to have Astrid with us in the future, as we are entering a breaking point with new challenges for funding, professionalization, and clarifying further the divisions of labour between ED, Board, staff, and volunteers. The upcoming general assembly in April will further lay those foundations. We are fully convinced that Astrid will assist and pilot our chapter through these challenges in an excellent way All the best from Wikimedia Norway Erlend Bjørtvedt -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?
I assume, the answer is all of this. Erlend Bjørtvedt Oslo Den mandag 26. januar 2015 skrev Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il følgende: Hi, It is well-known that the size of a Wikipedia in a given language is not proportional to the number of people who speak that language. By size I mean the article count and the active editor count. This begs the question: Is it proportional to anything else? I can think of a bunch of possible things (to most items you can add ... in the countries where this language is spoken): * Penetration of Internet access * Quality of education * Number of people who know other major languages, such as English, French, Russian, Spanish, etc. * Number of people who *don't* know other major languages * Gross domestic product * Human Development Index * The level of usage of this language in the education system (in some countries schools function in foreign languages) * Amount of published literature in that language * Level of censorship and press freedom * [[Language planning]] policies (think Catalonia, Ukraine, Quebec, Israel) It is quite possible that the size of a Wikipedia is proportional not to one of these things, but to a combination of them. It is also possible that it is not proportional to any of the above, or to anything at all. Did anybody ever try to research this? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Med-GLAM Help
Congratulations, these are really rare images to get to the free online community! And a good idea for other chapters to opt at something rare, but still feasible! Happy new year from Erlend Oslo 2014-12-29 12:42 GMT+01:00 Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com: Dear Wikimedians, I would like to draw your attention to the Med GLAM Project from India[1]. The main objective of this project is to create, curate and make openly available images from the Department of Pathology (DoP), Calicut Medical College (CMC), India; for the benefit of medical and para-medical students specifically and for the larger medical fraternity across the world. I am glad to inform you that this project has kick-started in October 2014 and is gaining momentum. Netha Hussain, is the Wikipedian-in-Residence for this project. Dr. K.P. Aravindan, Head of DoP, CMC and Netha Hussain have played a pivotal role in putting this project together and successfully partnering with the CMC. So far 146 images are uploaded on the Commons under the project and are available here [2]. Most of the credit goes to Netha for this successful Med-GLAM project in progress. Help and support, especially from Wikimedians with Pathology background, is welcome in writing descriptions for the images uploaded, categorizing them and reviewing the quality of images. Any other feedback would be useful. Thank you, Vishnu [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_ Knowledge/Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Med_GLAM_Project [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_ Department_of_Pathology,_Calicut_Medical_College ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Need help about Wikipedia in science
Thank you all for very valuable information and ideas!! Erlend Bjørtvedt WMNO Den mandag 24. november 2014 skrev Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com følgende: Hoi, Today or tomorrow, time permitting I will blog about how universities can check what alumni and employees are known for them in Wikipedia (ie Wikidata). At the moment I know the following: 195085 people http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A5%5D%20and%20claim%5B69%5D with an alma mater, men http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A5%5D%20AND%20CLAIM%5B21%3A6581097%5D%20%20and%20claim%5B69%5D 158649 women http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A5%5D%20AND%20CLAIM%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20and%20claim%5B69%5D 29059 geen sex 7377. It is very easy to provide the same information per university. It allows for editathons and special interest for the female alumni. It is for you to decide how best to use this. For your information, the Reasonator will show up to 500 linked to the item of the university DO REMEMBER that alumni or professors may be known in other languages... I blogged about a professor of the University of Utrecht recently... Thanks, GerardM On 24 November 2014 at 09:57, Erlend Bjørtvedt erl...@wikimedia.no javascript:; wrote: Dear colleagues, I need your help. In a weeks time, I am invited by the Norwegian Science Council to meet them and lecture and discuss about how they can nurture and contribute to the Wikipedia. The Science Council (Forskningsrådet) organizes all the universities, colleges, and institutes sector as regards research, through funding and program evalution. The task is that they will first produce a do-it-your-self-kit to scientists and researchers on how they can fulfill they obligation of educating the public. Thereafter, they will work more targetedly with pinpointing and contributing directly to the Wikipedia, probably Commons too. Our good partners in the Arts Council Norway have already worked with us for a long time on their public outreach obligation, and will take part in the meeting and speak about how they have nurtured the outreach of cultural heritage through Wikipedia and Commons. QUESTION: Where can I find good overviews of: - Examples of universities or institutions who have used Wikipedia to educate the public - Examples of professions or individual researchers who have done the same - Examples of formal co-operations between science and Wikimedia movement, as reference - Examples from your chapter of co-operation with science / universities Thank you all, Erlend -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Need help about Wikipedia in science
Dear colleagues, I need your help. In a weeks time, I am invited by the Norwegian Science Council to meet them and lecture and discuss about how they can nurture and contribute to the Wikipedia. The Science Council (Forskningsrådet) organizes all the universities, colleges, and institutes sector as regards research, through funding and program evalution. The task is that they will first produce a do-it-your-self-kit to scientists and researchers on how they can fulfill they obligation of educating the public. Thereafter, they will work more targetedly with pinpointing and contributing directly to the Wikipedia, probably Commons too. Our good partners in the Arts Council Norway have already worked with us for a long time on their public outreach obligation, and will take part in the meeting and speak about how they have nurtured the outreach of cultural heritage through Wikipedia and Commons. QUESTION: Where can I find good overviews of: - Examples of universities or institutions who have used Wikipedia to educate the public - Examples of professions or individual researchers who have done the same - Examples of formal co-operations between science and Wikimedia movement, as reference - Examples from your chapter of co-operation with science / universities Thank you all, Erlend -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Serbia Executive Director
Dobre! Welcome to the movement, Ivan! Erlend Bjørtvedt Wikimedia Norway Den søndag 12. oktober 2014 skrev Filip Maljković dungod...@gmail.com følgende: Hello everyone, I'd like to announce Ivan Nikčević as the new Executive Director of Wikimedia Serbia. After a two month process, and with more than 200 submissions, we finally managed to narrow it down to one person, who we hope will be a great contribution to our organization, and a successful leader thereof. Ivan's first day was on Friday. Here's a short auto-bio that he provided: Born in the 1970, an Information Technologies engineer by education. During his 20 years long work experience Ivan was marketing and PR manager, journalist, TV producer, TV host and presenter and an editor in chief for a weekly TV show on IT on Serbian national TV, he also was digital communications consultant. His last post before joining Wikimedia team in Serbia was project and online communications manager in Serbian Ministry of Trade, Tourism and Telecommunications. Ivan was awarded twice for his exceptional contribution for development and promotion of IT technologies in Serbia, by major professional associations from Serbian ICT sector and was an author of a documentary film “50 years of ICT in Serbia”. Behind an amazing professional career, a proud father of 17 years old daughter, a lead singer and song writer in a pop band, addicted on movies and popcorn, pop music, internet and video games he lives his life online and offline trying to be as one of his icons – George Carlin would say “a modern man, digital and smoke-free; a man for the millennium.” Cheers, Filip Maljković Wikimedia Serbia President ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published
Yeah, this is really a great thing! Just remember not to communicate, in a way, that at last, we have a peer reviewed Wikipedia article!.. . I have myself had twho scientific articles peer reviewed for Scientific periodicals, and know very well that this is quite a process. But then we also have the kind of articles that have not been formally peer reviewed in that sense, but are still Wikipedia-peer reviewed and of extraordinary standard. In 2010, PhD / psychiatrist Øystein Eiring wrote a large number of medical articles to Norwegian Wikipedia. One example is the entry on Schizofrenia http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizofreni It was started by many writers, including doctors Reodor and Sigve, both physicians. With Dr Eiring the article (and many others) got a serious Scientific boost and has 217 References. It has had 156 different contributors, and the Three mentioned doctors have both changed each others' contributors and had their own wordings changed. As much as 3,5 KB of doctor Sigve's text, has been removed or changed. This is the wonderful beauty of Wikipedia peer review! Best regards Erlend Bjørtvedt 2014-10-04 8:52 GMT+02:00 Nurunnaby Hasive n...@nhasive.com: Great work James! Congratulation. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: Not really P -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Erlend Bjørtvedt Sent: 03 October 2014 09:57 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published But remember: all Wikipedia articles are peer reviewed.. Erlend Bjørtvedt Den fredag 3. oktober 2014 skrev Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com følgende: Congratulations! A great model that could be emulated by many of us across other disciplines too. Cheers, Vishnu On Friday 03 October 2014 04:54 AM, James Heilman wrote: Article published by the journal Open Medicine http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564 Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/652/565 Hope these sorts of efforts will improve the reputation of Wikipedia and the number of contributors. I guess we will see. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8318 - Release Date: 10/03/14 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Moderator | The Daily Prothom-Alo http://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published
But remember: all Wikipedia articles are peer reviewed.. Erlend Bjørtvedt Den fredag 3. oktober 2014 skrev Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com følgende: Congratulations! A great model that could be emulated by many of us across other disciplines too. Cheers, Vishnu On Friday 03 October 2014 04:54 AM, James Heilman wrote: Article published by the journal Open Medicine http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564 Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/652/565 Hope these sorts of efforts will improve the reputation of Wikipedia and the number of contributors. I guess we will see. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where did noboards go
Hi, I have posted the upload issue in the same thread as the already fixed issue. It is still not possible to upload images. This is a major problem to us, sine we use it alot for confidential documents, financials, etc. Fine if someone more technical could do some guesswork on what might cause the noboard site to not accept uploading. Thanks, Erlend WMNO 2014-07-15 19:54 GMT+02:00 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org: On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Erlend Bjørtvedt erl...@wikimedia.no wrote: I am sorry, but an admin at MediaWiki (?) needs to enable upload to the noboards site. We use this site to store all our documents relating to accounting, salaries, tax, etc. After the troubles mentioned, it is not any more possible to upload anything to this site. Do anyone have any idea of who, where, and how this admin rights can be changed so that we can upload? I am sorry to bother l-list with this, but at WMF and Meta there aren't any contact infos for this, whatsoever. The best contact point for tech issues like these is Bugzilla https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/. The system administrators watch for new bugs and should be able to solve problems you run into. I've also CC'ed Sam Reed on this message, since he was the one who moved the wiki and might know what you're asking about. When you say admin rights, do you mean the local administrators/bureaucrats on the wiki? Does no one have advanced user rights at the moment? If so, stewards can modify user rights if you leave a request at [[m:SRP]]. The database name should be noboard_chapterswikimedia. -- Casey Brown (Cbrown1023) caseybrown.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where did noboards go
I am sorry, but an admin at MediaWiki (?) needs to enable upload to the noboards site. We use this site to store all our documents relating to accounting, salaries, tax, etc. After the troubles mentioned, it is not any more possible to upload anything to this site. Do anyone have any idea of who, where, and how this admin rights can be changed so that we can upload? I am sorry to bother l-list with this, but at WMF and Meta there aren't any contact infos for this, whatsoever. best regards Erlend Bjørtvedt WMNO 2014-07-01 18:58 GMT+02:00 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org: On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: I reopened the bug that probably broke the wiki's configuration: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31335 This has since been fixed by Sam Reed. See the bug for more information. The new site address is https://noboard-chapters.wikimedia.org/ and previous links might not work, so make sure everyone with access to the wiki knows to update their bookmarks. -- Casey Brown (Cbrown1023) caseybrown.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Where did noboards go
I know this is probably not the right spot, but since the WMF site does not state who is responsible for the chapter sites, I am sorry to post this question here Where did the boards/chapters pages go, like this one https://noboard.chapters.wikimedia.org/wiki/ when I enter it, it says that it does not exist. If these sites have moved, I would be overwhelmed to know where they are to be found, since they contain much valuable information... Best regards -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Chair of the Supervisory Board – the 14th WMDE General Assembly in retrospect
Viel gluck damit, fur dich Tim und dein neues team! Erlend Wmno Den tirsdag 27. mai 2014 skrev Tanweer Morshed wiki.tanw...@gmail.com følgende: Congratulations Tim! It's great to learn that you've been selected as the Chair of the Supervisory Board. Wishing you all the best. Regards, Tanweer Morshed Member, Executive Committee Wikimedia Bangladesh On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.comjavascript:; wrote: Congratulations Tim for your new role! On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.namejavascript:; wrote: Congratulations on your new role -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundationhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Social Media Interaction Expert | The Daily Prothom-Alohttp://www.prothom-alo.com Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network http://www.okfn.org Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) http://www.bdosn.org Task Force Member | Mozilla Bangladesh http://www.mozillabd.org fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Regards - Tanweer Morshed ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted
Thanks for your answer dariusz! Still, I think there are still 3 critical issues: It requires that chapters are really able to express, in a foreign language, advanced phenomena and characteristics of their work. I have seen grant applications that prove the opposite, The only thing I Ask for, is that you first grant someone 140'usd, and they apply for more, then at least you should visit that chapter. There Are not 20 such chapters, there Are close to 2. When you havn't even visited their chapter a single time ever, how can you then make up your mind about for example, their cooperative spirit, their ability to stage good events, the appropriatness of their office space for employee growth, their relations with the community, etc. Visits to chapters that apply or consider to apply for large grants, could make up for eventual language issues or other inabilites to express everything in written, The third is that the FDC does not Ask for consistent information over time, which brings on a risk of comparing metrics that aren't actually comparable. We experienced it this year, we have been required to report more metrics but they are not actually specified. And we experience ex-post questions about metrics that weren't asked ex-ante for. So everry chapter has to do a lot of guesswork, and comparison of results between, for example, wmse, wmno, and wmfr, is virtually impossible. In the absence of comparable output data, one typically reverts to Ask for desktop input data, risk-minimizing characteristica, and prosessual characteristica. The quarterly reporta could help a lot, and they indicate required metrics, but don't specified them. I could og dreper into this If required. Erlend Den lørdag 10. mai 2014 skrev Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl følgende: hi Erlend, there is a systematic schedule of site visits by WMF, but obviously it cannot be done for each chapter every year. From my grantmaking experience with several major foundations, I have to say that doing assessments basing on desktop materials is typical. In fact, the professional standard, even for foundations trying to keep close, friendly and intimate contact with their organizations (like e.g. was within HESP Soros network, that I had a chance to observe from within), relies on rare site visits, (every couple of years). I don't think that it would be a reasonable allocation of resources to fly people to 20+ chapters every year - in fact, if we wanted to do that, we'd have to have a separate person hired specifically for that purpose. The allocation of resources in our movement relies, to large extent, on trust in the submitted material. In other words, we take what you write about yourself for granted. Questions/comments serve further clarification purposes. best, dariusz (pundit) On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Erlend Bjørtvedt erl...@wikimedia.nojavascript:; wrote: As seen from distance in Paris, it seems like the assessment prosess is a mix of well-reasoned, prepared, and coincidential. In our case, the assessment is based on clever desk-top metrics, but not on any real knowledge of the local programs or their actual implementation. Foundation would have to visit chapters before evaluating them, but that has not happened. It is unfortunate that smaller chapters be assed without anyone in the WMF ever having visited the chapter and assessed the program impact in its local setting. As it stands, fdc assessment of wmno is 100% desktop and theoretical. That should really change If grantmaking is to be professionalized. Erlend Bjørtvedt Wmno Den fredag 9. mai 2014 skrev Risker risker...@gmail.com følgende: Thank you for your correction, Kasia - it now reads In order to avoid a potential bias assessing their own proposal, FDC have asked Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) to do the staff assessment of the WMF's proposal. [1] If I may suggest, since the FDC didn't submit the proposal that was assessed (the WMF did), that you can simplify this further by eliminating the first clause, and simply saying FDC have asked Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) to do the staff assessment of the WMF's proposal. The FDC can explain further itself why it has asked WMDE to do the assessment, if it desires. Risker/Anne [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikimedia_Foundation/Proposal_assessment_by_Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V.diff=0oldid=8460331 On 9 May 2014 11:07, Kasia Odrozek kasia.odro...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi Risker, It was indeed an unintentional mistake and thank you for pointing it out. I have corrected it in the assessment. Best, Kasia 2014-05-09 17:00 GMT+02:00 Risker risker...@gmail.com: Actually, Dariusz, if the FDC (which is not WMF/FDC staff) made the request, then the sentence is incorrect. As it is currently
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel been accepted to the Google Grants program
Yes, We have good relations with the local Google ceo and would really like to hear of how you approached this! Erlend Bjørtvedt Wmno Den mandag 5. mai 2014 skrev Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk følgende: Andrew: WMUK can use them if we want, as can most UK charities, but we haven't put together a plan for doing so. I'd be interested to see how WMIL's scheme goes! On 5 May 2014 15:35, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukjavascript:; wrote: Interesting! WM-DE and WMF have both had adword grants - looking at the mailing list archives, they seemed to use them for directing people to fundraising. Any other chapters used these? Amdrew. On 5 May 2014 13:53, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il javascript:; wrote: Hey, We are pleased to announce that Wikimedia Israel been accepted to the Google Grants program. Google Grants is an in-kind advertising program that awards free online advertising to nonprofits via Google AdWords up to 10,000$ per month. This grant will help Wikimedia Israel to uses another way to reach people in Israel and to invite them to learn about Wikipedia, attends editing workshops and to donate to Wikipedia. Google is a longtime supporter of Wikimedia Israel – They sponsored Wiki Loves Monuments on 2012 and 2013 and hosted many Wikimedia Israel's events at their Google Campus in Tel Aviv (Hackathons and community meet-ups). P.S. Happy 66th Israel's Independence Day! *Regards,Itzik Edri* Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk javascript:; ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015
Great that wmmx tales on such a tremendous effort for all! Congtatulations! Erlend Bjørtvedt WmNO Den mandag 21. april 2014 skrev Àlex Hinojo alexhin...@gmail.com følgende: Congrats! WMMX!! And thanks to all other teams who presented their proposals :-) Àlex Hinojo Amical Wikimedia 2014-04-21 19:29 GMT+02:00 Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.comjavascript:; : ¡Felicitaciones Wikimedia México! Great news! Enviado desde mi teléfono celular Disculpe la brevedad. El 21/04/2014 14:28, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org javascript:; escribió: Dear Wikimedians, On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2015 selection Jury Committee, we have accepted the proposal from Mexico DF to host. The proposal will be further vetted by the WMF staff in the coming month, after which time we hope to confirm the award. Please join us in congratulating Wikimedia Mexico! We would also like to thank the teams from Cape Town and Monastir as well for all their effort in putting together excellent proposals for our consideration. As a volunteer-led movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and we are most grateful for every team’s hard work. For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to issue the Request for Proposals for 2016 by September this year. Sincerely, Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff
Yes. Our employees in wmno are recruited externally, and could never hve done their job or learnt to know the projects If it wasn,t for: A - editing from a wmno account in order to give community information about events, etc. B - editing from a private account, under full name, to learn how to edit and write on the Wikipedia, in order to commumicate to the outside world how Wikipedia works and what it is about. This whole thing, by the way, just illustrates how impractible and difficult COI regulation has become. If the community ban third-party paid editing, and force employee-editors to state their affiliation at their user page, the normal rules on npov and sources would do the rest of the job. And spare us of all these investigations of each other. Erlend Bjørtvedt Wmno Den torsdag 17. april 2014 skrev Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org følgende: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: The community guidelines are extremely complex, yes. I consider that an argument *in favor* of adopting simpler rules for staff, that exceed community rules. For a general idea, here are the kind of rules that could be implemented for staff: * Staff will not edit Wikipedia, at all * Staff will not edit Wikipedia unless they have discussed appropriate boundaries around their editing with their supervisor * Staff will not edit Wikipedia unless they have discussed appropriate boundaries with XYZ people in the Community department Any policies like that would increase disconnect between WMF and community, not decrease it. It would disincentivize hiring from the community (because it's risky), and would disincentivize community members from applying to join the staff (because they'd have to give up a loved hobby). It would reduce the likelihood of managers to encourage people to become editors (because it's dangerous) and instead encourage a more corporate mentality towards the site and its users. In short, I think these are truly counterproductive suggestions, and I'm 100% supportive of Sue's original point. We have to accept that people will come in conflict with normal community guidelines, and we should encourage people to get involved in Wikipedia, because understanding the thing you support is key to supporting it well. The COI stuff is scary because it sets of people's alarm bells around integrity and ethics, but it shouldn't be as scary. A COI edit of an article about yourself is an entirely different ball o' wax than an edit on behalf of a paying client. Like Sue said, everyone was new once, and it takes people a while to learn the ropes. And even those of us who've been around for a while sometimes do things we shouldn't - we're all human. That's why we have community policies. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The rules, IMO, are pretty simple: - Make it clear when you're acting in an official capacity; - Be especially mindful when editing WMF-related topics, since WMF has a conflict-of-interest about itself. - When getting involved, it's understood that you'll make mistakes - that's fine. Be bold. :-) Follow community norms and best practices. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff
Same practice here, through spontneous reflection independent of wmfr. Seemes that this is at least natural for a chapter. I believe wmf employees should also be encouraged to contribute to the projects. Erlend Wmno Den torsdag 17. april 2014 skrev Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com følgende: Hi everyone, Just to share what we do at Wikimedia France. Employees are allowed to edit Wikimedia Projects from personnal accounts. When they do as Wikimedia France employees, they use their professional accounts, that stays they're employed by WMFr. We do not look at what they do on their personal time with their personal account. The Wikimedia Project policies are there to prevent any bad behavior. We believe our role is to empower our local community. To help it meet-up, conceive projects and run projects. We want our employees to support local volunteers. If we want them to do that efficiently, we need them to understand what editing Wikimedia projects means. Moreover, I don't know how it is in other countries, but in France, as an employer, it is really hard to forbid an employee to do a specific activity on their free time. Best, -- Christophe On 17 April 2014 10:08, Fæ fae...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On 17 April 2014 08:46, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org javascript:; wrote: ... On this, you and I seem to be about as far apart as we can be, so we will have to agree to disagree. This is why in threads like the Belfer one I encourage people to stay cool and not let this stuff get to their heads, because this is the kind of moral panicky BS we need to stay the hell clear of. Staying cool is something we can all agree with. However when long term senior managers of the Foundation respond to respectfully written whistle-blowing messages such as Russavia's or Tomasz' previous blog post by deriding them as raising moral panicky [Bull Shit], you are putting these words in the mouths of your CEO and Board of Trustees. If this is the vulgar way that the Foundation wishes to be publicly represented, I would be very surprised. This is not the first time that Erik has been sarcastic and rude in an apparent attempt to close down discussion in public responses to whistle-blowers. Perhaps Sue or one of the Trustees would like to say something about their expectation for exemplary and mellow behaviour towards the Wikimedia Community from their senior management team? Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com javascript:; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff
Carry on. Asume good faith. Edit the Wikipedia. Controbute as you can. Avoid pov. Erlend bjørtvedt Oslo Den torsdag 17. april 2014 skrev Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org følgende: I haven't read this thread, but I'll explain my editing history as Wikitedium: First of all, I listed my user name as soon as I started at Wikipedia. It's still listed here on my (out of date) staff/contractor page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zackexley I did start an article about myself a long time ago. I didn't know there was a policy against it. I wasn't an active editor and knew virtually no policies. I created the article because right wing media personalities were doing hit pieces on me and the Republican party was sending out emails asking people to write letters to the editor about me featuring lots of false facts. So I saw Wikipedia as an open encyclopedia that anyone can edit where I could set the record straight. Later I learned it was against policy and FELT REALLY BAD. As for the other edits on projects I was involved with. My personal opinion is that those kinds of edits are vital to the future of Wikipedia. I want everyone to add everything they're working on to Wikipedia -- and then all their critics to come and add what they know. I'm saddened every time I go looking for something I expect to be in Wikipedia and find nothing -- and am forced to rely on the organization's own site or whatever. OK -- I think that's all you need from me. Now enjoy yourselves as you continue to grind Wikipedia to a whining halt. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: On 17 April 2014 15:23, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.orgjavascript:; wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: After he was hired, Zack continued to use that account -- more responsibly, yes -- but he neither corrected the false statement on its user page, or disclose his connection to it. That is untrue; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zackexley Interesting, but not especially relevant. What path could a reader or editor of the Zack Exley article follow to learn about that connection? Disclosing on the Zack Exley user page isn't sufficient to meet basic transparency. Actually, it meets the requirements of the project. It's not perfect, but we have administrators who don't even give that much disclosure to their own alternate accounts (or that they edit without logging in), and nobody's getting the pitchforks out for them. If you don't like the edits made by the account, work on-wiki to address the issues. You know how to start an AfD for any articles you think are about non-notable subjects, you know how to un-peacock an article. If one really wants to push the COI envelope, one could say that users who are former employees of an organization shouldn't be editing articles related directly to the organization or its employees (salaried or contract), though. Indeed, one of the biggest COI issues we have on English Wikipedia is former employees trying to use our articles to bring problems to light about organizations. The disclosure was made. Incidentally, that's all that would need to be done even at the farthest reaches of the proposed terms of use amendment. Risker ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- Zack ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Norway quarterly report Q2, 2013-14
Below is the quarterly report providing Insights in the plans and results of Wikimedia Norway in the October-December period. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/APG/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Norge/Progress_report_form/Q2 Kind regards -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Welcome 3 employees of Wikimedia Norway
Wikimedia Norway has brought onboard it's Third employee from January 1. We now have a team of 3 full / part time staff supporting the Chapter in realizing ambitious objectives for 2014. They are all installed in Our New Offices in Central Oslo. https://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us Astrid Carlsen will direct the GLAM program co-ordination, and the chapter's efforts to strengthen participation, recruitment and retention of contributors. She has broad experience from the puvlishing sector and from translation, and has lived and worked in Germany and Norway. Jorid Martinsen will be a part-time Project manager With the main objective to increase female participation. She has invaluable experience and Networks as a recent student organizer at the national Level. Tor Arne Bjerke will direct the outreach towards academia, and the chapter's effort to enhance content quality. He will also specifically develop film Projects and produce recruitment film. Tor Arne has more than 10 years experience from the film industry as a producer, and lectures fil at a university college. We are happy to have them all onboard at Wikimedia Norway! -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)
. That are part of our history. Right now, those archives are dusting in some building. And in few years they might disappear. Our stance, being so opposed to companies making the first step (editing) prevent companies to go the next step, release. And in fact, indirectly, we're preventing knowledge to be freed. Awesome. Lastly, those companies have huge RD budgets and employ thousands of researchers and engineers. Imagine a company that employs 1 000 researchers. And imagine that company to do 2 things: 1/ that a company, as part of its CSR politic, says they commit 1 day per year per researcher to improve one article. And to provide to those researchers a one day training session about Wikipedia. This means 1 000 days of editing from specialized researchers and 1 000 researchers evangelized and trained to edit. 2/ that this company would commit 0.0001% of it's RD global budget to open a QA desk so wikimedians could ask their researchers for bibliography or proof reading articles Those things are not wild dreams, they could definitely happen (especially when you see how much money is spent in CSR actions). But we, as a community, refuse to tap into this. I'll stop here, my email is already quiet long, but by baning any paid foobar we are actually preventing the improvement of corporations related articles, destroying potential free knowledge and refusing to train and advocate about Wikipedia to thousand of people at a time. When I see the strategy of the movement, how much we need to get new editors and how poorly we do in some fields, I'm shocked by how easily we ban those possibilities to happen. And for what reason? Because they're for-profit companies. Best, PS: a short matrix of what we, as a community, we allow/disallow from reality and from discussions. If you can't see the problem there... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Schiste/editing_matrix -- Christophe On 10 January 2014 00:52, Erlend Bjørtvedt erl...@wikimedia.no wrote: I agree with you, Dariusz. We have discussed this at length in the community, and at Wikipedia Academy in Oslo in december. There is minimal support of a ban of paid editing. One thing is the fact that we have both Wikipedians in Residence and editing scholarships with GLAM institutions. It is naive to believe that cultural institutions like museums, etc, are not commercial. I am myself among those receiving USD 1.500 from the Directorate of Cultural Heritage to write about 19th century trappers' huts at Spitsbergen. Commercial? Probably not. Paid editing? Definitely. The debate among admins and at the Academy last month, revealed more or less consensus along several lines of thought. 1) A ban of paid editing is illusionary and impractible, and will just force paid editors underground 2) A ban will deprive us of invaluable expertise on a wide array of subjects that would otherwise not be covered 3) Guidelines and 5 pillars take presedence over COI anyway, judge people by what they do, and not who they are. 4) In-house employee editing is not only tolerated, but quite common at no-wiki. 5) The line runs at paid advocacy = third-party for-pay editing for a commercial customer, or for-pay POV editing. During the discussion, it appeared that a large proportion of the admins and bureaucrats who joined the discussion, had edited the articles about their employers. Most were aware of the COI potential involved, but asserted being able to write objectively even about an employer. Cheers, Erlend Bjørtvedt Norway 2014/1/9 Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but the question is how to enable such a system. If the rules for paid editors were to be very strict - many paid editors would have still decide to do it in secrecy anyway, oh, but there will ALWAYS be those lurking in the shadows. However, currently we frown upon edits which are according to the rules just as much as upon those which cross the line. I think it would be good to make and explicit, ostensive bright line, like Jimbo suggested - I just think the line should be elsewhere. Paid editing, when done according to the rules, and when subjected to transparent community control, is definitely better than a system in which paid editors are, in fact, motivated NOT TO reveal their affiliations. best, dariusz pundit ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)
But even they sell souvenires and books.. Den 10. jan. 2014 16:05 skrev Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info følgende: On 10/01/2014 15:01, Erlend Bjørtvedt wrote: A museum is a commercial entity. They live from ticket incomes from customers. Not all museum charges people entry... ;) -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)
I agree with you, Dariusz. We have discussed this at length in the community, and at Wikipedia Academy in Oslo in december. There is minimal support of a ban of paid editing. One thing is the fact that we have both Wikipedians in Residence and editing scholarships with GLAM institutions. It is naive to believe that cultural institutions like museums, etc, are not commercial. I am myself among those receiving USD 1.500 from the Directorate of Cultural Heritage to write about 19th century trappers' huts at Spitsbergen. Commercial? Probably not. Paid editing? Definitely. The debate among admins and at the Academy last month, revealed more or less consensus along several lines of thought. 1) A ban of paid editing is illusionary and impractible, and will just force paid editors underground 2) A ban will deprive us of invaluable expertise on a wide array of subjects that would otherwise not be covered 3) Guidelines and 5 pillars take presedence over COI anyway, judge people by what they do, and not who they are. 4) In-house employee editing is not only tolerated, but quite common at no-wiki. 5) The line runs at paid advocacy = third-party for-pay editing for a commercial customer, or for-pay POV editing. During the discussion, it appeared that a large proportion of the admins and bureaucrats who joined the discussion, had edited the articles about their employers. Most were aware of the COI potential involved, but asserted being able to write objectively even about an employer. Cheers, Erlend Bjørtvedt Norway 2014/1/9 Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but the question is how to enable such a system. If the rules for paid editors were to be very strict - many paid editors would have still decide to do it in secrecy anyway, oh, but there will ALWAYS be those lurking in the shadows. However, currently we frown upon edits which are according to the rules just as much as upon those which cross the line. I think it would be good to make and explicit, ostensive bright line, like Jimbo suggested - I just think the line should be elsewhere. Paid editing, when done according to the rules, and when subjected to transparent community control, is definitely better than a system in which paid editors are, in fact, motivated NOT TO reveal their affiliations. best, dariusz pundit ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] First quarter Activity Report from Wikimedia Norway
The quarterly report draft from Wikimedia Norway is available at Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/ 2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Norge/Progress_report_form/Q1 Kind regards, -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Q1 Quarterly Report from Wikimedia Norway (WMNO)
The quarterly report draft (non-reviewed) from Wikimedia Norway is now posted her: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Norge/Progress_report_form/Q1 Kind regards, -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images
When we speak of CT or MR, the machine is in both cases operated by (at least) two persons. It seems that they perform different tasks (the machines are big and complex). It also seems that the operation of both persons is necessary for the images to be taken. Quite apart from the question of who actually takes the image, the question of creative / artistic work is interesting. Is an x-ray image artistic, or is it part of a clinical process. The same really goes With the geologicing surveying image of a sea bottom taken by a geo-service vessel, the machines being operated by a number of crew. First question is who of them took the image, the next question is whether or not the geological mapping image is artistic at all. I think it's not. Erlend 2013/9/17 Joseph Chirum sundog...@yahoo.com In my opinion, the patient is the copyright holder. for these reasons mentioned by Erlend. The hospital is an institution, and the photographer is an employee. Therefore the patient is the consumer, and thus the patron, in turn forming an agreement as to the subject matter, and thus the content of the original work of technical craft, if not Art. Artist's rights are thus rendered irrelevent if not Art, thus the traditional copyright structure of said work. Joe Chirum From: Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images On 17/09/2013 17:47, Erlend Bjørtvedt wrote: I took CR scanning recently, and reflected on who would be the right copyrightholder. The manufacturer of the machine (Siemens) - certainly not, that would be like Nikon and Canon holding rights to all photos on Commons... The hospital - certainly not, since there ar eindividuals running the machine who are closer to the rights. Those individuals, in the case of the operators would probably / could well come under work for hire. The operators - well in the case of CR there are two, and they only push a button (i.e., not artistic). They are Remote from the Object, do not see it, and do not Direct the skanner (camera) to adjust or improve the final image. Someone taking a photograph using a point and shoot compact camera also only push a button, yet the law have no problem with assigning copyright to the photographer. The patient - the only real candidate in my view. While as a patient you are alone With the machine, the only one present in the room, and you move to get Your body in the right position (i.,e., you are the primary agent to make the image successful). Erlend, Oslo Katie -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Two more Wikipedians-in-Residence in Norway
The cooperation between Wikimedia Norway and the National Antequarian of Norway (Riksantikvaren), is taken a great step further by the latter employing two wikipedians-in-residence at this vital cultural institution. The National Antequarian is in charge of cultural heritage and historic heritage site preservation in Norway, and manages a base of c. 100.000 cultural and historic heritage sites in Norway and Svalbard. The cooperation started three years ago as the Wiki Loves Residence contest in Norway got full access to the cultural heritage site database, leading to suck cool apps like the WLM contest map: http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/norway/index.php?place=no-20 Now, in cooperation with WMNO, the public entity submits for two Wikipedians-in-residence, one focusing on textual and media conetnt, the other focusing on technical development and WLM: http://www.riksantikvaren.no/filestore/Wiki-in_residence.pdf This will add to the two W-i-R's already installed in Norway, at museums. The project specifically points to the Swedish Riksantikvarieembetet project with W-i-R's. The news were revealed on national radio this week: http://www.nrk.no/kultur-og-underholdning/1.11009548 The co-operation with the National Antequarian has it's own project site here: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Underprosjekter/Kulturminner WIkimedia Norge recently applied the WMF (FDC) for resources to support and facilitate this and other co-operations with GLAM institutions. Eventhough the Staff assessment was partly negative, we are going forward at full speed with GLAM co-operations, including W-i-R projects. This means that FDC funds (if the board approves) might allow for a minimum staff backing, while the W-i-R's will be able to run the necessary development on the ground and maybe assist marketing of the WLM project in Norway this year - in co-operation with WMNO. Kind regards -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone
, please excuse that, but I hope for some common reflection and effort as a result of all this. Kind regards Erlend Bjørtvedt WMNO 2013/4/29 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote: Dear trusty Wikimedians, The FDC decisions are out on Sunday. Despite my desperate attempts to assist WMHK's board to keep up with deadlines and comply with seemingly endless requests from WMF grantmaking and FDC support staff, we received an overwhelmingly negative assessment which resulted in a complete rejection of our FDC proposal. At this point, I believe it's an appropriate time for me to announce my resignation and retirement from all my official Wikimedia roles - as Administrative Assistant and WCA Council Member of WMHK. I will carry out my remaining duties as a member of Wikimania 2013 local team. Deryck! I'm also sorry to read this message, and sorry that it has been so frustrating for you and the rest of the HK team. It sounds like it was tough to communicate what was going on with the other grant, and there is disagreement and confusion about whether the end of that grant was appropriately communicated to WMF. Perhaps this is a good time for the ombudsperson to step in and take a look at what happened. I'd also say that this is an area of FDC process we need to shore up and clarify (eligible entities should expect to stay eligible, or know clearly that they might become ineligible under certain circumstances). I can't wait to attend Wikimania, and visit Hong Kong for the first time. I know that planning the conference is incredibly stressful on top of everything else. Hang in there, -- Phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone
Dear Nathan, I did not suggest what you say I suggested. My proposal was not to send funds away to weak chapters. The WMHK case illustrates exactly the point I wanted to make. The WMF has made reaching out to the world's largest language community (China), in the hands of the reporting and planning skills of volunteers in Hong Kong. That is disastreous. To clarify, my message is that the WMF should rather open an OFFICE in Hong Kong, to serve the 1.3 billion chinese-speaking, and other south-east Asians aswell from there. Your point that the WMF is best suited to support the volunteers, can hardly be correct if the Foundation staff clusters in San Fransisco without really supporting people on the ground anywhere else. It is indeed worth celebrating that WMHK volunteers take great efforts to organize the Wikimania, but it is probably not what their resources should be best utilised for. In may eyes, organized that massive event is an obvious task for the WMF. Kind regards, Erlend Bjørtvedt WMNO 2013/4/30 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com Florence - my comments followed Erlend's in the thread, where he suggested sending resources around the world without regard to which chapters were the most developed. Outside of the paragraph where I referred to WMKH specifically, my comments were not directed at it. In any case, it's fictional from a legal perspective that the funds belong to the movement and not the WMF. Whoever they feel obligated to serve, the trustees of the WMF retain all of the duties and obligations to disburse the money in the way most congruent with the articles of the WMF and the laws of Florida, California and the United States. I'm sure you know this as well or better than most. Finally, you're of course right that the WMF in its early days was lax in many respects - mostly predictable ways for a new organization without a good model. On the other hand, it was lax with money it raised itself. As a result, its duties were to the law and to itself, not to another large organization with its own duties. To repeat my earlier point, any chapter has the full capacity to raise its own funds. A self-funded chapter is a good analog to the WMF; it can grow at its own pace, and only has to assure the movement that it is not misusing the trademarks or acting in a way to bring the movement into disrepute. The obsessive focus with greater and greater funding of chapters is misplaced; between a smaller overall budget for the entire movement, and a global effort to hire wildly decentralized administrative staff, I would choose the former. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone
But if you do not help the Wikimedia Movement in California, then why are you all posted there? ;-) Erlend, WMNO 2013/4/30 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Erlend Bjørtvedt erl...@wikimedia.no wrote: Dear Nathan, I did not suggest what you say I suggested. My proposal was not to send funds away to weak chapters. The WMHK case illustrates exactly the point I wanted to make. The WMF has made reaching out to the world's largest language community (China), in the hands of the reporting and planning skills of volunteers in Hong Kong. That is disastreous. To clarify, my message is that the WMF should rather open an OFFICE in Hong Kong, to serve the 1.3 billion chinese-speaking, and other south-east Asians aswell from there. Your point that the WMF is best suited to support the volunteers, can hardly be correct if the Foundation staff clusters in San Fransisco without really supporting people on the ground anywhere else. It is indeed worth celebrating that WMHK volunteers take great efforts to organize the Wikimania, but it is probably not what their resources should be best utilised for. In may eyes, organized that massive event is an obvious task for the WMF. Kind regards, Erlend Bjørtvedt WMNO This is getting off-track of the start of the thread. But one quick note: as a long-time volunteer in the San Francisco region, I promise you that the WMF does not do anything special to support the volunteers here :) We occasionally use the WMF offices for local developer community meetings and editathons -- that is, if a staff person is also volunteering with the group and can open it up -- but that's the main privilege that the volunteer community here has versus the volunteer community in any other part of the world. Pretty much all of the outreach and events that have happened in SF and in California specifically, like talks at universities and community meetups and our Wikipedia 10 conference and the like, have happened because of volunteers, not because of the WMF -- just like anywhere else. -- phoebe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Armenia
Warm welcomes from Wikimedia norway! And happy easter in jerevan! Erlend BB WMNO torsdag 28. mars 2013 skrev David Richfield følgende: Congratulations, and welcome! -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Erlend Bjørtvedt* Nestleder, Wikimedia Norge Vice chairman, Wikimedia Norway Mob: +47 - 9225 9227 http://no.wikimedia.org http://no.wikimedia.org/wiki/About_us ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
