billinghurst wrote:
>... or there is the old saying of "let sleeping dogs, lie"
Heh, you seem to be in "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" territory here.
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K. Peachey wrote:
>Can you please file this in bugzilla <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org>?
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48856
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icient. It's about making things right.
It's particularly frustrating that wikis make mistakes very easy to undo
and yet somehow that process has completely failed us here. We encourage
boldness, as the next steps (a reversion and discussion) are supposed to
be easy. I suppose this principl
the audience question.
That's a bit of a rabbit hole, though.
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y and engaging.
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seems willing to rectify the situation.
Pages such as <https://wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sean_Whitton> are now
out-of-date and there are a growing number of requests for an account
(<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMFACCOUNT>). But we can wait for Ga
dy
has found one yet. And many people are still searching for a rationale.
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ns of his or her account. You obviously felt an
obligation to act here. What remains unclear is why.
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hich point I'd have to start removing egg
>from my face ;-)
Philippe has had time to go back and remove Phoebe's user rights and
Philippe has had time to post to this mailing list about the upcoming
Wikimedia elections, but he has chosen not to participate in this thread
a
Nathan wrote:
>If the conflict was primarily with MZMcBride (which seems to be the
>case), then it was a bit cowardly to overhaul the entire scheme on the
>site in order to avoid telling him to knock it off.
What'd I do?
MZMcBride
_
ch. But it's long-time community
members who know that this isn't right and who have chosen to not say
anything that are bothering me the most.
It's unsurprising that you and many others aren't very active anymore. :-/
You're so much better than they deserve.
MZMcBrid
the long-term re-unite
the wiki with Meta-Wiki at www.wikimedia.org.
This is a step in the wrong direction.
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d can see that this is pure politics.
Leslie, do you agree with these policies that remove all non-staff from
positions of trust? Do you agree with creating tiers between staff and
everyone else?
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bers, I wonder when
they'll realize that it's these same volunteers that keep the projects
running. When the dedicated and trusted volunteers leave, their (paid)
jobs will soon follow. Wikimedia simply isn't sustainable without t
ng based on a series
of private discussions. Meanwhile, the home page of
wikimediafoundation.org stresses how transparent the organization is.
This is a pretty disappointing day. I'd be interested to hear what Gayle,
Philippe, or the Board has to say.
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>
>The only thing I know about is
>https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WH#Accommodations
I've been trying to organize best practices documents here:
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Best_practices>. :-)
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a full-time staff person. A little
seed money. What needs to happen in order to ensure requests like this are
met if membership fees and sponsorships aren't sufficient?
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are sustainable in the long term, and
whether they are leading to the most impact possible.
"""
Is the FDC commenting on the Wikimedia chapters here or on the Wikimedia
Foundation (or both)? The scope of both the FDC and these comments is
unclear to me.
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[1] https://meta.wikime
kimedia.
In light of this, it seems even more unreasonable and against good sense
to pursue a new machine translation endeavor, virtuous as it may be. If
an outside organization wants Wikimedia's help and support and their
values align with ours, it's certainl
other themes worth investigating.
Thank you for working on this!
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For the curious: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Favicon>.
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ension:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets>.
It sounds like maybe you want "merchandise"? Or something similar to that.
Just a thought.
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Erik Moeller wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:49 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> Sue or Erik: is there any update on this e-mail from November 2012? (Or
>> some place interested folks should be watching for news?)
>
>In addition to the original note from November, please also
date on this e-mail from November 2012? (Or
some place interested folks should be watching for news?)
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hen OTRS
is struggling to stay functional. I don't do much OTRS-related work, but
I find it easy to imagine some OTRS volunteers reading this and wondering
what's going on.
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y I think an investigative or exploratory committee would make
a lot of sense here and now. Thoughts?
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Is this a reasonable (or tenable) path forward? After having seen the
volume of past discussion about this idea, I'd really prefer not to look
back at this mailing list discussion in two or three years and still not
have made forward real forward progress. ;-) If you have o
Erik Moeller wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> It costs about $2.5 million to keep the sites operational for a year.
>
>How did you come up with that number?
I used to say $2 million, but Roan recently told me that it had probably
gone up since that
Philippe Beaudette wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> (Particularly looking at you, Philippe, given your work on
>> both the strategic plan and the licensing vote. Gerard's Law and all.
>>;-)
>
>For the record, I didn't do the l
a-wide requests for comment? Just a Board resolution
(assuming a majority of members support this, of course)?
Thoughts on how to figure out what the next step here is would be really
appreciated. (Particularly looking at you, Philippe, given your work on
both the strategic p
ailing list.
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tive_2009-2012
Hi.
I haven't had a chance to read the report yet, but I just want to say
thank you for the transparency here. :-)
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factor :)
:D
These photos were adorable. Thank you for sharing them.
(Though I did feel a slight pang in my heart when I remembered that S.F.
had stolen Kat and Greg from us.)
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the
"Identification noticeboard" in some ways, which is almost equally
entirely arbitrary about who is and isn't required to identify themselves
to the Wikimedia Foundation.
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for protecting people's privacy.
>
>That's my understanding as well. I have a NDA with the WMF as a volunteer
>from a couple years ago to help with fundraising after I no longer
>contracted for the foundation in order to access the donations CRM
Benjamin Chen wrote:
>On 6 Mar, 2013, at 3:11 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> It's unclear whether Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees members and
>> Wikimedia stewards are also required to sign NDAs.
>
>Just for the purpose of information, stewards do not sign NDAs.
T
nsparency is exactly needed, per se, but it
was an interesting read and it may serve as a reference point for other
non-profits and similar organizations. It'd be nice to see it re-posted at
some point.
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er user volunteer groups (people with access to rt.wikimedia.org,
shell users, et al.).
I suppose we should begin to expand the page on Meta-Wiki. Cunningham's
Law will kick in, as necessary.
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MZMcBride wrote:
>As I understand it, many Wikimedia Foundation employees are required to
>sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). Is there a copy of the current
>version of this non-disclosure agreement anywhere? I briefly checked
>Meta-Wiki and wikimediafoundation.org, but didn't
David Gerard wrote:
>On 21 February 2013 12:07, Sumana Harihareswara
>wrote:
>
>[Sumana does ALL THE THINGS]
>
>This is a wonderful response. Thank you!
Completely agreed. Thank you, Sumana! It seems like we're headed in a goo
s on it, or a
>replacement, more.
I would think the Wikimedia Foundation would want to remain pretty distant
from unfiltered volunteer replies to e-mails, from a legal standpoint, but
maybe someone from the Wikimedia Foundation legal team can chime in on
this point.
Thanks again for your
his is workable. It's just a matter of
pointing where the e-mail is sent, as I understand it. And then
maintaining whatever solution you pick/build that manages the e-mail.
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valuating and implementing better/different
response software, and/or moving the response system elsewhere.
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gets/how it's been working for you all. Do people submit interesting
stories? I assume it's funneled through OTRS or something, but I'm not
actually sure.
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es such as
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User-Agent_policy> that fill a somewhat
similar explanatory role. Perhaps a similar page would be best here?
It's fairly long-standing policy to ban outside tools such as Google
Analytics due to user privacy concerns, but it
erhaps there's a page on Meta-Wiki
somewhere? Does anyone know?
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Keegan Peterzell wrote:
>1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Reports/2012
>2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS
Nice. Thanks for putting this together. :-)
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ying to wrap my head around
what Global Voices exactly is, but a collaboration between the two seemed
like it might have promise. If I'm off-base, ignore me.)
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much as the place to which it leads. These are solvable
problems. We can do better.
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Zack Exley wrote:
>On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>>In previous discussions, there were questions about trade-offs and I
>>think you mentioned that the Wikimedia community would have to make some
>>choices about certain implementation details (e.g., &quo
dex page at
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreements>.
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I did come across other interesting and somewhat related pages such as
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Statement>, though.)
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time, etc.). I realize it's January and that the next annual fundraiser is
many months away, but do you have any idea when this year you'll be having a
discussion about these trade-offs and where?
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ediaWiki Foundation, we can start work on the
> MikiWedia Foundation and the WediaMiki Foundation. ;-)
[/snip]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-August/062843.html
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annual fundraiser in Wikimedia's history. And not
that money is the only thing that matters, but in terms of comparison to
other years, this year has apparently just blown them away:
<https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserStatistics>. It's
very impre
nated money to you. Just how many complaints
were you expecting and what might they look like? I'm fascinated to know.
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." You're annoying readers and editors alike with
these banners.
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MZMcBride wrote:
> Dario Taraborelli wrote:
>> A full roll out of AFT5 on the entire English Wikipedia is scheduled for Q4
>> 2012.
>
> Do you have a link to on-wiki consensus for this idea? I was under the
> impression that the ArticleFeedback tool was developed as an
Samuel Klein wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> In the past, Sam has said that private solicitation of Board members to
>> introduce a resolution was the best approach.
>
> *Public* solicitation, actually. I can't think of any reason to priv
issue tracking, as a request that ultimately needs a
(Board) resolution. Perhaps a page at Meta-Wiki could track such requests?
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uot;Guidelines" link in the sidebar, but it's
painfully buried in the left-hand sidebar's list of links and its target
(<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Guidelines>) is a wall of
text.
I'm not sure who could resolve this issue or how it's best tracke
Bishakha Datta wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> It would be nice if someone could export the linked presentation from Google
>> Docs and upload it to wikimediafoundation.org (or Wikimedia Commons) as a PDF
>> or ODP (or both). I don't think
It would be nice if someone could export the linked presentation from Google
Docs and upload it to wikimediafoundation.org (or Wikimedia Commons) as a
PDF or ODP (or both). I don't think we should rely on external resources in
the context of historical Board archives unless absolutel
the curve on this issue. ;-)
Regarding Mr. Romney in particular, he seems to be very
pro-corporation/pro-business, so I don't expect any major changes to
copyright law should he be elected President.
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info action"
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41329
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride wrote:
>> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such
>> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
>
&
needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this
list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
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MZMcBride wrote:
> Theo10011 wrote:
>> Sue Gardner started working on this document on Meta a couple of weeks ago
>> - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sue_Gardner/Narrowing_focus
>
> Well, there's your problem. You're reading the talk page! You want the
h parts you're upset with and why. If
your intent is to rabble-rouse, you're doing it wrong. :-)
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n-wiki consensus before being widely deployed,
right? Has that happened?
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to move a page. Yes, boy and
girls, hiding things makes them more difficult to find; film at 11. :-)
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James Alexander wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:44 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> P.S. I happened to notice at <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising>
>> that the "Chapter Fundraising Agreement" is not public (looks like it's
>> hosted on internal.w
Megan Hernandez wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> How is the fund-raising goal determined each year?
>>
>
> The fund-raising goal is determined by the amount of money needed to fund
> the budget with consultation with the payment processin
that people fragment what are otherwise sensible critical-mass
communities or projects into multiple beautiful-but-subcritical communities
which fade over time."
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helpful to Meta-Wiki generally. I thought there was some planning about this
on Meta-Wiki already somewhere.
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le to upload the images to Wikimedia Commons so
that they can be annotated on Meta-Wiki and/or mediawiki.org.
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Stephen LaPorte wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> My question, more directly, is: if the SOPA action from January 2012
>> were held in August 2012 (following the implementation of this new statement
>> from the General Counsel's office)
Brandon Harris wrote:
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:11 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>>> What type of action was the SOPA blackout in January?
>>
>> You mean, given the $500,000 Google donation Wikimedia received in Novembe
David Gerard wrote:
> On 2 August 2012 05:13, MZMcBride wrote:
>> This appears to be an unprecedented power-grab by the office of the General
>> Counsel.
>
> Um ... that's a bizarre perception.
Is it?
I read through the page at Meta-Wiki and couldn't help bu
ifferent
> types of affiliations and examines when review is appropriate by the
> community, WMF staff, and the Board of Trustees.
This appears to be an unprecedented power-grab by the office of the General
Counsel. Was there any Board or community support for placing
d templates on a small Wikipedia that only has 400 articles is
terrible, but it's not as though the English Wikipedia or any other
established Wikipedia with millions of articles wants 10,000 unused
templates either.
MZMcBride
[1] Wikis have been previously compared to children. "Creati
nterested, there's discussion on the talk page about how to best
implement this idea.
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Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote:
>> Risker wrote:
>>> This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a
>>> community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being
>>> discussed on a
ow to join and use this
mailing list. It's not as though this is list is some new and foreign forum.
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Hi.
How is the fund-raising goal determined each year?
Is there a fund-raising goal set for the upcoming fund-raiser (the one
beginning in November 2012)?
Is there a guideline or policy regarding what happens once the fund-raising
goal is met?
MZMcBride
e disruption (like the bans in China), working around those
disruptions to further Wikimedia's aim of spreading free educational content
is a worthwhile endeavor. Purposefully disrupting access to Wikimedia wikis
through blackouts is contrary to
MZMcBride wrote:
> List participants may be interested. Jimmy's approach seems to somewhat
> ignore previous discussions about ways to implement such a filter (e.g.,
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki//Brainstorming>), but perhaps that isn't
> such a bad thin
to somewhat
ignore previous discussions about ways to implement such a filter (e.g.,
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki//Brainstorming>), but perhaps that isn't
such a bad thing.
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Steven Walling wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> Someone recently asked me about the Wikimedia Foundation's installation of
>> Mingle (<https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/>) and when I went to find
>> documentation about it, I came up dry
/Mingle>. It's a very barebones page at the
moment. If anyone who's familiar with Mingle (particularly the Wikimedia
Foundation's use of it) could glance at or improve the page, that would be
great!
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rrible at. It'd be good if there were a way to address this.
> We are working on a Q&A document that will be published after Wikimania.
I hope you all include "What has been learned from this?" :-) Lots of good
lessons for all three sides here, I think (staff, Board, and comm
tps://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/History_of_the_Board_of_Trustees
However, I don't see any posted resolutions or votes regarding the new Board
appointments (yet). Will those be forthcoming?
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fellow Wikimedians. They need wider promotion on Meta etc.
>
> Party is on #wikipedia-ru@freenode
You've successfully disrupted an educational resource in the name of
political advocacy. Stooping to the level of vandals... that'
ka BSD vs GPL; aka "do what you want", vs "do unto
> others"; etc. (incidentally, is there a general term for this 100% freedom vs
> -except not allowed to take away freedom- rule?))
Libertarianism.
Also, the SOPA strike wasn't necessary; it was disruptive and fooli
spend their free time on such projects.
I imagine some people on this list have already seen this, but it's new to
me and I thought I'd send it along in case others found it interesting.
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information do you think is contained in an IPv6 address?
I wondered what Risker was referring to as well, so I looked up IPv6 +
privacy: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Privacy>.
After reading that section, it's still unclear to me wheth
s
already written, even, it just needs to be pushed out to a Hacks extension
or something:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/72959#c9219>.
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until the
wiki can support XML and iCal output, the benefit of using Google outweighs
the cost.
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ure, so I've
now implemented a "namespace notice" via a MediaWiki gadget. When viewing
any page in the Talk namespace, you'll now see the contents of
"Template:Contribute" below the page title. The relevant code can be found
here.[2]
MZMcBride
[1] https:
Thank you very much for the detailed and insightful reply.
Tomasz Finc wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> Mobile seems to have two branches these days: (1) the mobile versions of the
>> sites; and more recently (2) specific mobile applications. Branch
ational
value of such a project. It instead derails advertising and makes a few
generic statements that would be true of any project addition ("increase the
number of Wikimedians," etc.).
If you're serious about seeing it become the next Wikimedia sister project,
I'd focus on mak
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