Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiobject - Project Proposal
Hi,
I have moved and add WikiObject project information to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiObject
greetings
El jue., 30 jun. 2016 a las 7:29, <jay...@gmail.com> escribió:
> The wikidata mailing list or wiki would be good venues to continue the
> discussion.
>
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 03:54 Quico Prol, <franp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I talked with open source hardware community members and also see a great
> > potencial in this. One of them is working in a Open Source prototyping
> > board (https://github.com/FPGAwars/icezum).
> >
> > I created two example wikidata items releated with it: the open source
> > prototype board itself (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25026145) and one
> > of
> > its components, a SMD resistance (
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25030181
> > ).
> >
> > IMHO Wikidata is the best host for this idea. Also It already have
> > propierties like "connector (P2935)" , "power consumed (P2791)", "source
> > code repository (P1324)", "sponsor (P859)", "manufacturer (P176)", these
> > two last ones could may companies contributors and proclive too appear
> here
> > and to opensource data.
> >
> > I see a lot possibilities, problems , solutions , etc, but i don't nknow
> if
> > this is the place to expand the conversation,
> >
> > greetings
> >
> > 2016-06-27 12:15 GMT+02:00 Quico Prol <franp...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi, how about a wikipedia about objects?
> > >
> > > Instead of generic articles of , for example, "Ballpoint pen" or "Bic
> > > cristal" it would be "Ballpoint pen Bic cristal 2014"
> > >
> > > Doing these for millions of objects would allow people to have an open,
> > > free, universal and central place to refer specific objects.
> > >
> > > *Some possible applications:*
> > >
> > >
> > >- Creating neutral and standard lists:
> > >
> > >Nowadays if anyone create, for example, a tutorial for building
> > >something (DIY projects, receipts, ...) they have to link all items
> > to a
> > >comercial or no-neutral web which could change its url in the future
> > or
> > >redirect it to adds or whatever.
> > >
> > >Lists could be created in external webpages linking wikimedia
> objects
> > >webpage or/and could be created as category pages in Wikipedia. For
> > >example, currently, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_of_the_Year
> > >article lists cars which won COTY award but not links to the
> specific
> > car
> > >(AUDI A3 Hatchback 2012 - Present) but generic serie (Audi A3).
> > >
> > >The good thing at this point it's that to start creating object
> > >lists only item name is necessary, no infoboxes or description
> needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >- Universal repository for inventories:
> > >
> > >Lot of business fill their inventories again and again with same
> data
> > >("cardboard box 50x30x15", "step by step nema motor 17", ... ) they
> > should
> > >be able to import this data from a open website with their
> > corresponding
> > >info like GTIN , SKU , Barcode... and more in the future weight,
> > size,
> > >...
> > >
> > > - Encourage Recycling and Reutilitation:
> > >
> > >Imagine if we use wikidata properties (
> > >https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Generic)
> like
> > >"has part" and "part of" , people will find other uses for objects,
> or
> > >discover were to find
> > >
> > >- Social activism and Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR)
> > >
> > >Companies have info and metrics about their costumers (habits,
> > >location, ...) why not costumers have info about companies products,
> > who
> > >manufacture what?, what products have a good carbon footprint
> > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_footprint>?, what products
> have
> > >been retired from some problem?, what are Fair Trade?. This also can
> > moved
> > >companies do better.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Very rough roadmap*:
> > >
> > >
> > >1. At the very begining, using wikidata infrestructure, objects
> would
> > >only have common info like "name
[Wikimedia-l] Wikiobject - Project Proposal
Hi, how about a wikipedia about objects?
Instead of generic articles of , for example, "Ballpoint pen" or "Bic
cristal" it would be "Ballpoint pen Bic cristal 2014"
Doing these for millions of objects would allow people to have an open,
free, universal and central place to refer specific objects.
*Some possible applications:*
- Creating neutral and standard lists:
Nowadays if anyone create, for example, a tutorial for building
something (DIY projects, receipts, ...) they have to link all items to a
comercial or no-neutral web which could change its url in the future or
redirect it to adds or whatever.
Lists could be created in external webpages linking wikimedia objects
webpage or/and could be created as category pages in Wikipedia. For
example, currently, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_of_the_Year
article lists cars which won COTY award but not links to the specific car
(AUDI A3 Hatchback 2012 - Present) but generic serie (Audi A3).
The good thing at this point it's that to start creating object
lists only item name is necessary, no infoboxes or description needed.
- Universal repository for inventories:
Lot of business fill their inventories again and again with same data
("cardboard box 50x30x15", "step by step nema motor 17", ... ) they should
be able to import this data from a open website with their corresponding
info like GTIN , SKU , Barcode... and more in the future weight, size,
...
- Encourage Recycling and Reutilitation:
Imagine if we use wikidata properties (
https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Generic) like
"has part" and "part of" , people will find other uses for objects, or
discover were to find
- Social activism and Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR)
Companies have info and metrics about their costumers (habits, location,
...) why not costumers have info about companies products, who manufacture
what?, what products have a good carbon footprint
?, what products have
been retired from some problem?, what are Fair Trade?. This also can moved
companies do better.
*Very rough roadmap*:
1. At the very begining, using wikidata infrestructure, objects would
only have common info like "name", " image", "related links"
(datasheets?), GTIN.
First use cases could be doing lists or grouping objects by categories.
2. Step by step new fields could be added like "manufacturer" , "tags",
...
3. A separated website could be created. wikiobject.org isn't availiabe
so url could be something like objects.wikpedia.org
4. In a long-term in order to explote all the possibilities of this
project more complex fields and relations would have to be managed, like
for example "fridges with energy class A+++ and width less than 80 cm",
which could be easy if all always were similar but nothing further from
reality
A friend of mine and me tried to build a demo version in an home-made
apache cassandra cluster four years ago, but we don't have enough resources
and knowledge for that.
*Funding*
In my humble opinion, problem with wikipedia funding It's that most part of
its users don't see culture as a need (sorry for that, I am a sporadic
donor). In Wikiobject case I think it could rather be different.
If part of companies business lies on this project, companies will be very
inclined to donate to improve performace, usability, etc.. maybe similar to
what happens in Linux.
Where came this need from? Data needed for some software to run, product
vissibility, costumer requests, etc ... , no advertisement needed, It could
be a need and standart.
I trully believe that world need something like this, and the correct
people to do it, to warranty openness and independence, are you.
thanks for your time and attention,
grettings
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiobject - Project Proposal
Hi , step by step advances in WikiObject project proposal:
- Added new examples for better scope understanding:
- Components of a 3D Printer (Prusa I3 Hephestos)
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?=27000417>
- Arduino/Genuino Uno Rev 3 Datasheet
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q25814150>
- List of arduino official boards
<https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Items%20where%20manufacturer%20is%20Arduino%20LLC%20company%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3F_image%20%3F_length%20%3F_width%20%3F_voltage%20%3F_clock_speed%20%3F_has_part%20%3F_official_website%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP176%20wd%3AQ25815029.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP18%20%3F_image.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP854%20%3F_reference_URL.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP527%20%3F_has_part.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP856%20%3F_official_website.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2043%20%3F_length.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2049%20%3F_width.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2436%20%3F_voltage.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2149%20%3F_clock_speed.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP577%20%3F_publication_date.%20%7D%0A%7D>
(using
Wikidata Query Service)
- Added list of useful wikidata properties
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Objects
- Initial conversations with FreeCAD
<http://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=8=17919=142383#p142383> to
link their repositories <https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD-library> to
wikidata items though "open source repository" property like here
https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q25026145
criticism, doubts, ideas, suggestions, etc.. are very welcome
more info: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiObject
greetings
El lun., 27 jun. 2016 a las 12:15, Quico Prol (<franp...@gmail.com>)
escribió:
> Hi, how about a wikipedia about objects?
>
> Instead of generic articles of , for example, "Ballpoint pen" or "Bic
> cristal" it would be "Ballpoint pen Bic cristal 2014"
>
> Doing these for millions of objects would allow people to have an open,
> free, universal and central place to refer specific objects.
>
> *Some possible applications:*
>
>
>- Creating neutral and standard lists:
>
>Nowadays if anyone create, for example, a tutorial for building
>something (DIY projects, receipts, ...) they have to link all items to a
>comercial or no-neutral web which could change its url in the future or
>redirect it to adds or whatever.
>
>Lists could be created in external webpages linking wikimedia objects
>webpage or/and could be created as category pages in Wikipedia. For
>example, currently, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_of_the_Year
>article lists cars which won COTY award but not links to the specific car
>(AUDI A3 Hatchback 2012 - Present) but generic serie (Audi A3).
>
>The good thing at this point it's that to start creating object
>lists only item name is necessary, no infoboxes or description needed.
>
>
>- Universal repository for inventories:
>
>Lot of business fill their inventories again and again with same data
>("cardboard box 50x30x15", "step by step nema motor 17", ... ) they should
>be able to import this data from a open website with their corresponding
>info like GTIN , SKU , Barcode... and more in the future weight, size,
>...
>
> - Encourage Recycling and Reutilitation:
>
>Imagine if we use wikidata properties (
>https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Generic) like
>"has part" and "part of" , people will find other uses for objects, or
>discover were to find
>
>- Social activism and Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR)
>
>Companies have info and metrics about their costumers (habits,
>location, ...) why not costumers have info about companies products, who
>manufacture what?, what products have a good carbon footprint
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_footprint>?, what products have
>been retired from some problem?, what are Fair Trade?. This also can moved
>companies do better.
>
>
> *Very rough roadmap*:
>
>
>1. At the very begining, using wikidata infrestructure, objects would
>only have common info like "name", " image", "related links"
>(datasheets?), GTIN.
>
>First use cases could be doing lists or grouping objects by categories.
>
>2. Step
