Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Wikimedia-movement apolitical?

2020-04-28 Thread petr . kadlec
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:00 AM Bill Takatoshi 
wrote:

> And again, I doubt even 5% of the long term editor base is opposed to
> campaign finance reform


I doubt even 5% of the long term editor base has any opinion on this
“campaign finance reform” (or, for the most part, know what that is). I
guess it has something to do with the political parties in the United
States? Sorry, I’m not interested in that very much.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Tool from Community Tech: Who Wrote That?

2020-01-25 Thread petr . kadlec
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:05 AM Diane Ranville 
wrote:

> This is great. But it looks like it's only available on EN:WP?
>

As the extension provides just a way to display the data provided by the
WikiWho service [1], which supports just five sites (enwiki, dewiki,
euwiki, trwiki, eswiki), this extension supports only those sites as well.
Pity.

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[1]: https://api.wikiwho.net/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A fundraising banner we'd like to try in a short test

2017-11-16 Thread Petr Kadlec
Hi,

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Samuel Patton <spat...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

>    - Petr Kadlec, this work-in-progress banner is using some copy written
>in English, as well as a couple translation templates; the final version
>will all be hardcoded English. However, your bug sounds strange - could
> you
>try opening the link in an incognito browser and, if you're still
> getting a
>problem, send me a screenshot?
>

In an incognito browser, the banner shows in English. If I log in in an
incognito window and open the banner afterwards, it opens in a mixture of
English and Slovak, the text is in English but _some_ of the UI elements
are in Slovak, e.g. “Just Once”, but “Vyberte spôsob platby‎”; or “The
Wikimedia Foundation is a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization. Mesačné
platby budú pripisované na účet nadácie Wikimedia Foundation dovtedy, kým
nepožiadate o ich zastavenie.” (As I said, I have Czech as the UI language,
and Slovak is a fallback language for Czech, so there is _some_ method in
it, I guess.)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] A fundraising banner we'd like to try in a short test

2017-11-15 Thread Petr Kadlec
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Samuel Patton <spat...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> If you have thoughts on this design, please share them here. There will be
> more opportunities for you to weigh in if this banner variant looks
> promising enough to keep testing.
>

A slightly different aspect: Why does the banner show in Slovak for me
(English Wikipedia with English as UI language, Accept-Language:
en-US,en;q=0.7,cs;q=0.3) and where do the texts/translations come from? I
tried to find them on TranslateWiki but failed. They do not seem to be at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/EDOI/browse/master/gateway_common/i18n/interface/en.json
either.

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-06 Thread Petr Kadlec
Hi,

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Those whose intentions I don't know at all include Hong Kong, Hungary,
> Czech Republic, India, Macedonia, and Macau. At least one of those appears
> to be completely inactive.
>

AFAIAA, WMCZ Board has already decided their vote, I am not sure if they
have submitted the vote already, are planning to do so soon, have forgotten
it, something has malfunctioned, …

CCing Vojtěch to check up on that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] AWB & Ubuntu: Can really someone help?

2015-12-29 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com> wrote:

> AWB is made in C#.
>
> C# runs in .NET.
>
> .NET is like a virtual machine to abstract the layer of the operating
> system.
>
> .NET runs in Windows doesn't run in Linux based OS.
>

Not really. Apart from Mono, we have .NET Core <https://dotnet.github.io/>
now. (However, I’m not saying AWB will run under either of those options or
even that it would be easy to make it work there.)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-11-20 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> When Wikipedia is a black box, not communicating about with the outside
> world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this moment there are
> already those at Wikidata that argue not to bother about Wikipedia quality
> because in their view, Wikipedians do not care about its own quality.
>

Right. When some users blindly dump random data to Wikidata, not
communicating about with the outside world, at some stage the situation
becomes toxic. At this moment there are already those at Wikipedia that
argue not to bother about Wikidata quality because in their view,
Wikidatans do not care about its own quality.

For instance, take a look at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GerardM
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GerardM/Archive_1

Erm
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Does Foundation have 3rd party standing against Harald Bischoff?

2015-07-29 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Martin Kraft wikipe...@martinkraft.com
wrote:

 Am 26.07.2015 um 19:29 schrieb James Salsman:

 If Harald Bischoff has defrauded Commons reusers by requiring stricter
 attribution than the community requires, does the Foundation have standing
 in Germany to require him to return the money to his victims in proportion
 to the extent that their attribution was improper?


 Sorry guys but if I read suggestions like this, I seriously ask myself, if
 you've ever read the legal code of CC-BY-SA[1] or the the
 copyright/Urheberrecht it is based on?!

 Why? Because this is legal base of HaraldBischoffs Abmahnung. So whoever
 wants to sue him for sueing somebody, should at least have some idea of
 what legal offence he should be sued for.

 And from the legal point of view, it makes a big difference wether the
 attribution is on a website that is operated by the same institution (like
 Wikipedia and Commons) or on a third party website. The latter case
 definetly is no proper CC-attribution.


Really? Neither the word instititution nor third party [website] appear
in the text of the CC license, so on what exactly do you base this very
specific distinction just so narrowly fitting our behavior (no image
attribution within articles, only on the image description page reachable
upon clicking on the image), while not fitting anyone else doing exactly
the same? The license requires only that the credit be implemented in any
reasonable manner. [Also note that the _text_ of our projects, while also
licensed under CC-BY-SA, is licensed in way that explicitly states that a
sufficient attribution is [t]hrough hyperlink (where possible) or URL to
the page or pages that you are re-using (since each page has a history page
that lists all authors and editors).]

And even under this strict reading of the license, the original post refers
to a blogger who used a foto, with backlink to commons, and attributing in
mouseover, i.e. attributing _on the same webpage_ (together with linking
to the image source with full credit and license information), even though
not visibly without pointing the mouse on the photo.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-23 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 Under this new law, would images already uploaded to Commons under FOP
 actually have to be deleted? Surely the new law wouldn't apply
 retrospectively, but would just affect future uploads of photos?


Retroactively as in “you used this photograph three years ago, so pay us”?
Obviously not. But “if you want to use this photograph you took three years
ago in a book you are publishing next month, you have to pay us”? That is
not retroactivity, that’s just not having a grandfather clause. (Which
means continued public availability of these photographs on Commons without
permission from the copyright holders author would fall under the new law.)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: Become a Digital object identifier (DOI) registarnt

2015-01-23 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
wrote:

 The oldid. At the moment, I trust our long-term viability more than a
 2014 web-archiving startup, even one with praiseworthy names attached
 ;-)


Possibly an obvious remark: an oldid-based permalink gets you an old
version of the source text of the specific page, but does not give you the
original visible _result_: The page is reparsed and displayed using the
_current_ version of all used templates, images, data from Wikidata etc. We
do not store the complete state anywhere, so perma.cc does provide extra
value here.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

2014-08-19 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Of course, if Infoboxes/Persondata on these Wikipedias were to use some Lua
 magic, biographies with e.g. mismatching birthdates could automatically be
 added to a maintenance category...


We already do that for various infoboxes using Wikidata on cswiki. See
categories under
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:%C3%9Adr%C5%BEba:Wikidata – e.g.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:%C3%9Adr%C5%BEba:OSM_relace_r%C5%AFzn%C3%A1_od_Wikidat
lists articles linking to OpenStreetMap with a different OSM relation ID
than listed in Wikidata.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-06-18 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 From the technical side, supporting one-click (i.e., easy to use) file
 moves between wikis would be enormously helpful here. This would allow
 transferring files to Commons or from Commons without much pain, which
 should reduce a lot of friction. As David notes, we could set up
 additional file repositories for use in Wikimedia wikis, but it requires
 solving the hosting issues mentioned above.


This. Creating a completely new project when all what people want is an
ability to easily reuse an image they saw on another project (i.e. on
enwiki) means creating thousand new problems instead of solving one. (You
could devise a bit more sophisticated solutions instead of file copying,
e.g. direct cross-project image use like “[[en:File:Example.jpg]]” or
whatever, but they create other issues to solve; one-click cross-project
file upload could be easily implemented right now.)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Radiological images

2013-09-17 Thread Petr Kadlec
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 IANAL, but my interpretation would be that X-rays are not copyrightable,
 since they are not creative works, period.


Note that e.g. in the Czech Republic, “[a] photograph or a work produced by
a process similar to photography” has lower threshold on
originality/creativity; it is protected “if it is original in the sense
that it is the author’s own intellectual creation” (while a work of another
types needs to be “a unique outcome of the creative activity of the
author”). And this is language from the European Copyright Duration
Directive (Article 6: “Photographs which are original in the sense that
they are the author's own intellectual creation shall be protected in
accordance with Article 1. No other criteria shall be applied to determine
their eligibility for protection.”), so other EU countries probably have
similar legal constructions.

It might be debatable whether medical X-ray images are, in fact,
“photographs or works produced by a process similar to photography” (while
“traditional” X-ray images probably are, I would argue CT pictures are
not), and whether they are “the author’s own intellectual creation” at all.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-24 Thread Petr Kadlec
On 24 July 2012 10:35, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
 2012/7/24 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) vp2...@gmail.com:
 May be we should take such anomalies to public forums!

 I'm not actually sure that it's an anomaly. As I said, I don't follow
 sports and I only noticed such a thing now for the first time, but I
 don't find it extremely surprising.

Exactly. Actually, there are much greater “anomalies” around Olympics…
See e.g. 
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2012/07/21/london-olympics-lord-coe-s-astonishing-sponsors-outburst-86908-23910798/

It is probably interesting to point out we have
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:NCR stating basically we ignore
such “house rules” (or, in other words: if anyone without an
accreditation dares to upload his photos under a free license, we will
happily keep the images on Commons, whatever was written on the
tickets, with any possible risks on the uploader, of course).

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