Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
I wrote a sort of a programme proposal on the talk page in June. If nothing else comes up, you may take that as a basis to start the discussion from somewhere. Find it under content. Cheers, Balazs User:Vince 2013/10/2 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Hey Chris, it's all on meta. I was hoping for someone to pick up this topic and call for members. Here we go, anyone interested in working on the heart of the conference – the programme? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Programme_team (I thought programme team sounded a bit more suitable then committee. ;)) Cheers, Nicole On 30 September 2013 21:02, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed! Given that a while back people were asking whether this conference would happen *at all* it is very good to see that there are four chapters willing to host. Many thanks to Germany, Sweden, India and Italy. :-) I am not sure whether anyone has called for a programme committee or similar yet - is that part of the process? Regards, Chris Wikimedia UK Chair On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: ... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Just a small formal question: is there any reason why Amical as a thematic organization was not considered in the travel costs? I thought it's a Wikimedia Conference, and not a Chapters Conference anymore. But maybe that's a further question, whether Thematic Organizations and User Groups are invited or not.. Best, Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 30 September 2013 20:35, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: ... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Only to make the process easier; WMF board, FDC and AffCom members are also not considered in the calculation, but their meetings are an important part of the conference. We were just trying to find a practical way to roughly estimate the range of the travel costs. HTH, Nicole Nicole Ebber International Affairs http://wikimedia.de On 2 Oct 2013 20:23, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com wrote: Just a small formal question: is there any reason why Amical as a thematic organization was not considered in the travel costs? I thought it's a Wikimedia Conference, and not a Chapters Conference anymore. But maybe that's a further question, whether Thematic Organizations and User Groups are invited or not.. Best, Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 30 September 2013 20:35, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: ... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Thanks, Bence Nicole, for the quick response! Best Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 2 October 2013 20:34, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Only to make the process easier; WMF board, FDC and AffCom members are also not considered in the calculation, but their meetings are an important part of the conference. We were just trying to find a practical way to roughly estimate the range of the travel costs. HTH, Nicole Nicole Ebber International Affairs http://wikimedia.de On 2 Oct 2013 20:23, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com wrote: Just a small formal question: is there any reason why Amical as a thematic organization was not considered in the travel costs? I thought it's a Wikimedia Conference, and not a Chapters Conference anymore. But maybe that's a further question, whether Thematic Organizations and User Groups are invited or not.. Best, Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 30 September 2013 20:35, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: ... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Quick note: I have moved the Questions and answers to the talk page, to keep the bids page readable for those wanting to compare the bids on their own. A. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Bence Nicole, for the quick response! Best Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 2 October 2013 20:34, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Only to make the process easier; WMF board, FDC and AffCom members are also not considered in the calculation, but their meetings are an important part of the conference. We were just trying to find a practical way to roughly estimate the range of the travel costs. HTH, Nicole Nicole Ebber International Affairs http://wikimedia.de On 2 Oct 2013 20:23, Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com wrote: Just a small formal question: is there any reason why Amical as a thematic organization was not considered in the travel costs? I thought it's a Wikimedia Conference, and not a Chapters Conference anymore. But maybe that's a further question, whether Thematic Organizations and User Groups are invited or not.. Best, Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Twitter: @jaancornelius Mobile:+258-84-4260524 (Vodacom MZ) German number currently offline On 30 September 2013 20:35, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: ... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Indeed! Given that a while back people were asking whether this conference would happen *at all* it is very good to see that there are four chapters willing to host. Many thanks to Germany, Sweden, India and Italy. :-) I am not sure whether anyone has called for a programme committee or similar yet - is that part of the process? Regards, Chris Wikimedia UK Chair On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: ... and there's also Italy! WM-IT wants to put to good use the 2013's experience, so here's our application: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_4:_WMI (also, the venue for this WMConf is very close to the location of this bid for Wikimania[1], the bid as been started by some WM-IT and the chapter as a whole will a vote to officially support the bid during the General Assembly on October 19th, 2013) Four bids, exciting! Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Lake_Como_(Esino_Lario) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Hello again, FYI: WMDE has just posted their bid to host Wikimedia Conference 2014. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Application_1:_WMDE The deadline for the bidding process is approaching: 30 September is the last day to enter your bid on Meta. There are now 7 people on the location committee: Itzik (WMIL), Ilario (WMCH/IT), Arnaugir (Amical), Osmar (WMAR) from the affiliations plus Asaf (WMF), Bence (AffCom), Mike (FDC). Thanks to all of you to step up for this important task! After the comittee has decided about the hosting organisation (by 15 October) we should all continue with defining the goals and desired outcomes and work on the programme together. Please feel invited to provide your thoughts and input on Meta already – or volunteer to be on the programme committee yourselves. :) Cheers, Nicole On 20 September 2013 14:34, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: The name conference doesn't mean that it has to stick to the traditional conference format. Indeed, one of the suggested discussion topics (both in general, and for the actual programme committee) is to consider different formats and approaches (e.g. using the event for capacity building workshops, leadership training for board members, etc.) – input, and volunteers with good ideas for the programme committee would be very welcome at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference Best regards, Bence On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: You;re still not getting my point so let me reword myself: I'm debating wheter specifically this event (in its current form, as it seemingly lacks general interest plus turns into a 'mini Wikimania') is the best way for that what Jon says; no argument against wheter it is necessary or not. Small, dedicated workshops are usually have more success and value than such general conferences. Also, I saw many arguments that these unscheduled, here-and-there advertised thematic meetups (paralel to the main body of the conference) were more useful and fruitful than the main body. A lot of guys holding 'important' positions are usually missing the main body of the event at all due to these. Then why to stick to a conference? Set up workshops: you may put them paralell if you want for cost effectiveness. (for example 3 days, 6 workshops in two streams) Balazs 2013/9/20 Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net Hi, A few people asked me with varying degrees of seriousness about this in Hong Kong, so I'll just put this out there and say that Wikimedia Australia will not be in a position to host this event in 2014. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 16 September 2013 22:11, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014 are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15 October. The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics, as in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation, technical equipment, social events, communication with and support for the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the facilitators. I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted, this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the event. I have written more about the programme part on Meta. Thanks to Asaf and Bence for giving their valuable input to the set-up of this process. Since WMDE has kind of a traditional interest in having a good conference, I am happy to take a leading role in organising this process. Any help is highly appreciated! I am looking forward to an exciting Wikimedia Conference 2014. \o/ Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
I think there is an assumption that it is needed and indeed welcomed. From my two experiences it has been very valuable and,I would argue, in an organisation like ours essential for developing good working relationships and practices. On 20 September 2013 05:53, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.huwrote: I think you miss my point: I see an event that is being pushed despite no sufficient visible interest in it from those whom you are targeting with it... Sure you'll have more applications than vacant slots, it is pretty easy to find people to travel for free virtually from an to anywhere in the world. Also, everybody loves to talk. If you measure success that way, it will be a 100% success. Balázs 2013/9/18 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org Balasz, you miss the point: certainly, conferences _can_ be organized in any major city. That's not what this conversation is trying to establish. We are trying to get the deafeningly-silent majority of chapter/ThOrg board members on this list to _participate_ in determining the location, and later the program, of next year's WMCON. If the level of interest expressed so far is a fair reflection of the actual level of interest, and given WMDE has expressed interest in hosting, we could default to that and forego this whole bid process. The point of the bid was to accommodate a perceived interest in sharing the burden (and joys) of hosting; if that perception is incorrect, we don't need this process. So which is it, dear colleagues? Is everyone else just happy for Someonetm to handle this? Is everyone else just waiting for the invitation to the actual event, and the program put together by others? A. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey Marc, you can find all requirements on Meta. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Logistical_needs_for_the_annual_Wikimedia_Conference_2 Hope this helps, Nicole On 18 September 2013 19:19, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 09/18/2013 06:58 AM, Jon Davies wrote: Can we have it in that place that hosts Groundhog day? I fully intend to prepare a bid for Montreal to host this, once the requirements are made slightly clearer. I already have all the contacts with venues and government levels from my organization of the 2011 Wikimania bid and plan to use the success story of that conference to shore up Montreal's bid to host a Wikimania. :-) -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
On 20/09/2013 05:53, Balázs Viczián wrote: I think you miss my point: I see an event that is being pushed despite no sufficient visible interest in it from those whom you are targeting with it... Sure you'll have more applications than vacant slots, it is pretty easy to find people to travel for free virtually from an to anywhere in the world. Also, everybody loves to talk. If you measure success that way, it will be a 100% success. Balázs Lack of interest in hosting something != Lack of interest / value in attending it -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Hi, A few people asked me with varying degrees of seriousness about this in Hong Kong, so I'll just put this out there and say that Wikimedia Australia will not be in a position to host this event in 2014. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 16 September 2013 22:11, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014 are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15 October. The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics, as in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation, technical equipment, social events, communication with and support for the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the facilitators. I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted, this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the event. I have written more about the programme part on Meta. Thanks to Asaf and Bence for giving their valuable input to the set-up of this process. Since WMDE has kind of a traditional interest in having a good conference, I am happy to take a leading role in organising this process. Any help is highly appreciated! I am looking forward to an exciting Wikimedia Conference 2014. \o/ Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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The name conference doesn't mean that it has to stick to the traditional conference format. Indeed, one of the suggested discussion topics (both in general, and for the actual programme committee) is to consider different formats and approaches (e.g. using the event for capacity building workshops, leadership training for board members, etc.) – input, and volunteers with good ideas for the programme committee would be very welcome at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference Best regards, Bence On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: You;re still not getting my point so let me reword myself: I'm debating wheter specifically this event (in its current form, as it seemingly lacks general interest plus turns into a 'mini Wikimania') is the best way for that what Jon says; no argument against wheter it is necessary or not. Small, dedicated workshops are usually have more success and value than such general conferences. Also, I saw many arguments that these unscheduled, here-and-there advertised thematic meetups (paralel to the main body of the conference) were more useful and fruitful than the main body. A lot of guys holding 'important' positions are usually missing the main body of the event at all due to these. Then why to stick to a conference? Set up workshops: you may put them paralell if you want for cost effectiveness. (for example 3 days, 6 workshops in two streams) Balazs 2013/9/20 Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net Hi, A few people asked me with varying degrees of seriousness about this in Hong Kong, so I'll just put this out there and say that Wikimedia Australia will not be in a position to host this event in 2014. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 16 September 2013 22:11, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014 are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15 October. The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics, as in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation, technical equipment, social events, communication with and support for the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the facilitators. I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted, this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the event. I have written more about the programme part on Meta. Thanks to Asaf and Bence for giving their valuable input to the set-up of this process. Since WMDE has kind of a traditional interest in having a good conference, I am happy to take a leading role in organising this process. Any help is highly appreciated! I am looking forward to an exciting Wikimedia Conference 2014. \o/ Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Imo would be nice to know what to bid for before bidding at all... If it is that struggling to find out what is WMConf is about, I suggest dropping it at all (as per the evolution of Wikimania, it would be a reasonable decision) and create small, thematic workshops instead (see the PED workshop in Budapest in July) Vince 2013/9/17 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Hi Balázs, thanks for asking. I wanted to focus on the location committee first, and then send a call for input and volunteers for the programme committee within the next days. Best, Nicole On 16 September 2013 21:31, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme committee; who are they, what are their duties, etc. Cheers, Balázs 2013/9/16 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014 are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15 October. The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics, as in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation, technical equipment, social events, communication with and support for the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the facilitators. I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted, this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the event. I have written more about the programme part on Meta. Thanks to Asaf and Bence for giving their valuable input to the set-up of this process. Since WMDE has kind of a traditional interest in having a good conference, I am happy to take a leading role in organising this process. Any help is highly appreciated! I am looking forward to an exciting Wikimedia Conference 2014. \o/ Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Vince, That may be true. But maybe you remember that Nicole some months ago tried to initiate a discussion process about the Conference, almost nobody replied or was engaged in the discussion. So now we have to hurry up, if we want a conference or a meeting at all in early 2014. After that or even at the Conference itself we can discuss the future of this type of gathering. I think, personally, an Affiliate conference is absolutely necessary. The design of the conference itself is up to the future programme committee. Of course, as you suggest, more thematic slots are (more) useful instead of the three days talking about the state of the chapters. However, that's an other discussion. Best Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Mobile: +49-1520-7226062 Twitter: @jaancornelius Am 18.09.2013 10:01 schrieb Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu: Imo would be nice to know what to bid for before bidding at all... If it is that struggling to find out what is WMConf is about, I suggest dropping it at all (as per the evolution of Wikimania, it would be a reasonable decision) and create small, thematic workshops instead (see the PED workshop in Budapest in July) Vince 2013/9/17 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Hi Balázs, thanks for asking. I wanted to focus on the location committee first, and then send a call for input and volunteers for the programme committee within the next days. Best, Nicole On 16 September 2013 21:31, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme committee; who are they, what are their duties, etc. Cheers, Balázs 2013/9/16 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014 are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15 October. The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics, as in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation, technical equipment, social events, communication with and support for the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the facilitators. I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted, this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the event. I have written more about the programme part on Meta. Thanks to Asaf and Bence for giving their valuable input to the set-up of this process. Since WMDE has kind of a traditional interest in having a good conference, I am happy to take a leading role in organising this process. Any help is highly appreciated! I am looking forward to an exciting Wikimedia Conference 2014. \o/ Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur
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Hi, This event can be installed to any city: given the requirements I can organize it at any city having a conference centre large enough, from Sopron, Hungary ( http://www.prokultura.hu/hu/konferenciak/rendezvenytermek.html , 5 section rooms, 2 large halls, a theatre, etc.) to Mexico City, Mexico ( http://www.centrobanamex.com.mx/en/installations/ this technically a stadium) and anywhere in between each direction. All of these locations have staff, therefore it is just a matter of how much WMF is willing to spend on it. The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from the top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 months before the event to give everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first minute, not last minute). Most airline and international train tickets are the cheapest if you buy them ~3 months in advance. Not much later, nor earlier, because both are being penalized by higher fees. We can find out where to have the event as late as early January Balazs 2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@gmail.com Hi, necessity and meaningfulness are not going hand-by-hand together. Frankly this event can be installed to any city: given the requirements I can organize it at any city having a conference centre large enough, from Sopron, Hungary ( http://www.prokultura.hu/hu/konferenciak/rendezvenytermek.html , 5 section rooms, 2 large halls, a theatre, etc.) to Mexico City, Mexico ( http://www.centrobanamex.com.mx/en/installations/ this technically a stadium) and anywhere in between each direction. The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from the top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 month before the event to give everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first minute, not last minute). Most airline and international train tickets are the cheapest if you buy them ~3 months in advance. Not much later, nor earlier, because both are being penalized by higher fees. We can find out where to have the event as late as early January. Balazs 2013/9/18 Cornelius Kibelka jckibe...@gmail.com Vince, That may be true. But maybe you remember that Nicole some months ago tried to initiate a discussion process about the Conference, almost nobody replied or was engaged in the discussion. So now we have to hurry up, if we want a conference or a meeting at all in early 2014. After that or even at the Conference itself we can discuss the future of this type of gathering. I think, personally, an Affiliate conference is absolutely necessary. The design of the conference itself is up to the future programme committee. Of course, as you suggest, more thematic slots are (more) useful instead of the three days talking about the state of the chapters. However, that's an other discussion. Best Cornelius Cornelius Kibelka Mobile: +49-1520-7226062 Twitter: @jaancornelius Am 18.09.2013 10:01 schrieb Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu : Imo would be nice to know what to bid for before bidding at all... If it is that struggling to find out what is WMConf is about, I suggest dropping it at all (as per the evolution of Wikimania, it would be a reasonable decision) and create small, thematic workshops instead (see the PED workshop in Budapest in July) Vince 2013/9/17 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Hi Balázs, thanks for asking. I wanted to focus on the location committee first, and then send a call for input and volunteers for the programme committee within the next days. Best, Nicole On 16 September 2013 21:31, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme committee; who are they, what are their duties, etc. Cheers, Balázs 2013/9/16 Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising
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2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu: The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from the top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 months before the event to give everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first minute, not last minute). Most airline and international train tickets are the cheapest if you buy them ~3 months in advance. Not much later, nor earlier, because both are being penalized by higher fees. We can find out where to have the event as late as early January May I point out that if you want to be able to book tickets 3 months before event:date you should start working on event at the very least six month in advance. How can you tell the destination of your booking if you don't know where the event is going to be held? From WM-IT's experience with WMConf 2013 (which we are discussing to replicate) you have to start organizing it in November, no later. Cristian ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Simple solution - until someone else volunteers to host the conference, just have it in the same place every year. You can work out distribution of funding independently from where it is actually held. Since WMDE seems to be in the driver seat, having a backup plan of a conference in Germany seems like a smart idea. That might privilege people with easy travel to Germany, but well organized affiliates can always propose a plan to host it elsewhere. It wouldn't be too bad to have a recurring conference in a fixed location. The staff setting it up won't need to overcome issues related to lack of experience, relationships with vendors and venues can be normalized, attendees can depend on the quality and standards of the event, and participants can expect a higher level of content because other potential distractions are eliminated. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I agree. The work behind the organization is more than organizing a wiki-meeting to drink a beer. People have to consider the costs for travel, the booking of tickets and the accommodation plus visas. Yes, six months is a convenient timeline to start working on. regards On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu: The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from the top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 months before the event to give everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first minute, not last minute). Most airline and international train tickets are the cheapest if you buy them ~3 months in advance. Not much later, nor earlier, because both are being penalized by higher fees. We can find out where to have the event as late as early January May I point out that if you want to be able to book tickets 3 months before event:date you should start working on event at the very least six month in advance. How can you tell the destination of your booking if you don't know where the event is going to be held? From WM-IT's experience with WMConf 2013 (which we are discussing to replicate) you have to start organizing it in November, no later. Cristian Plus, you're forgetting visas. Aubrey _ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Can we have it in that place that hosts Groundhog day? Didn't we have all these discussions last year? Is this a wiki tradition nobody told me about? Jon On 18 September 2013 14:31, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. The work behind the organization is more than organizing a wiki-meeting to drink a beer. People have to consider the costs for travel, the booking of tickets and the accommodation plus visas. Yes, six months is a convenient timeline to start working on. regards On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/9/18 Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu: The thing is that you should start building from the bottom, not from the top. A venue can be secured as late as 3 months before the event to give everyone enough time to plan and get cheap tickets (and I mean first minute, not last minute). Most airline and international train tickets are the cheapest if you buy them ~3 months in advance. Not much later, nor earlier, because both are being penalized by higher fees. We can find out where to have the event as late as early January May I point out that if you want to be able to book tickets 3 months before event:date you should start working on event at the very least six month in advance. How can you tell the destination of your booking if you don't know where the event is going to be held? From WM-IT's experience with WMConf 2013 (which we are discussing to replicate) you have to start organizing it in November, no later. Cristian Plus, you're forgetting visas. Aubrey _ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On 18/09/2013 14:29, Nathan wrote: Simple solution - until someone else volunteers to host the conference, just have it in the same place every year. You can work out distribution of funding independently from where it is actually held. Since WMDE seems to be in the driver seat, having a backup plan of a conference in Germany seems like a smart idea. That might privilege people with easy travel to Germany, but well organized affiliates can always propose a plan to host it elsewhere. It wouldn't be too bad to have a recurring conference in a fixed location. The staff setting it up won't need to overcome issues related to lack of experience, relationships with vendors and venues can be normalized, attendees can depend on the quality and standards of the event, and participants can expect a higher level of content because other potential distractions are eliminated. It *was* held in the same country (namely Germany) every year previously, until Italy hosted it this year. I presume the idea of changing was so we *don't* have it at the same place every year so that affiliates far from Germany don't have to travel as far some years (though Italy isn't necessarily that far away from Germany this year). Also possibly funding issue as WMDE don't necessarily want to bear the cost of the whole conference every year. Italy applied to the WMF Grants Program for fund to host this year conference. Unless the WMF have agreed to guarantee funding for future years conference (I haven't been following so not sure), then whoever is hosting the conference will also need time to apply for funding from Grants. KTC -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
In 2008 I looked into hosting this meeting for 2009 in Stockholm. I quickly learnt that the travel logistics/costs was heavy against such a place, being outside central Europe and not having a real international flighthub. Berlin was a much better place in this respect and I believe also Amsterdam would be well placed and perhaps also Paris and Zurich, but other cities including London I think would mean a higher total travel cost (Milan was also well placed) So why not simplify the choice of city with just asking WMNL and WMDE who wants to arrange it? Anders Katie Chan skrev 2013-09-18 16:59: On 18/09/2013 14:29, Nathan wrote: Simple solution - until someone else volunteers to host the conference, just have it in the same place every year. You can work out distribution of funding independently from where it is actually held. Since WMDE seems to be in the driver seat, having a backup plan of a conference in Germany seems like a smart idea. That might privilege people with easy travel to Germany, but well organized affiliates can always propose a plan to host it elsewhere. It wouldn't be too bad to have a recurring conference in a fixed location. The staff setting it up won't need to overcome issues related to lack of experience, relationships with vendors and venues can be normalized, attendees can depend on the quality and standards of the event, and participants can expect a higher level of content because other potential distractions are eliminated. It *was* held in the same country (namely Germany) every year previously, until Italy hosted it this year. I presume the idea of changing was so we *don't* have it at the same place every year so that affiliates far from Germany don't have to travel as far some years (though Italy isn't necessarily that far away from Germany this year). Also possibly funding issue as WMDE don't necessarily want to bear the cost of the whole conference every year. Italy applied to the WMF Grants Program for fund to host this year conference. Unless the WMF have agreed to guarantee funding for future years conference (I haven't been following so not sure), then whoever is hosting the conference will also need time to apply for funding from Grants. KTC ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Hey Katie, On 18 September 2013 16:59, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: Italy applied to the WMF Grants Program for fund to host this year conference. Unless the WMF have agreed to guarantee funding for future years conference (I haven't been following so not sure), then whoever is hosting the conference will also need time to apply for funding from Grants. See Asaf's mail and comment on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Financing_a_Wikimedia_Conference To enable more chapters to offer their city/country as the hosting entity, the Foundation has made the decision to financially support the hosting expenses for the Wikimedia Conference itself; to include the cost of the main conference venue and miscellaneous meeting rooms, the cost of internet access at that venue, the cost of meals provided at the conference venue during the conference for all participants and any group ground transit needs related specifically to the meetings at the conference. Cheers, Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Hey Marc, you can find all requirements on Meta. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Logistical_needs_for_the_annual_Wikimedia_Conference_2 Hope this helps, Nicole On 18 September 2013 19:19, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 09/18/2013 06:58 AM, Jon Davies wrote: Can we have it in that place that hosts Groundhog day? I fully intend to prepare a bid for Montreal to host this, once the requirements are made slightly clearer. I already have all the contacts with venues and government levels from my organization of the 2011 Wikimania bid and plan to use the success story of that conference to shore up Montreal's bid to host a Wikimania. :-) -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
I singed up. I'll be happy to help with the Location committee. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Balázs Viczián balazs.vicz...@wikimedia.hu wrote: would be nice to learn more about the programme committee; who are they, what are their duties, etc. Would be even nicer to take an active part in shaping the answers to those questions by engaging on the wiki. :) This is an event important to all of us (I hope). Let's stop waiting for Someonetm to do-it-for-us-and-tell-us-what-was-decided, and get involved... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference A. -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Who will host Wikimedia Conference 2014? Bidding process is open!
Dear Wikimedia friends, following up on the emails Asaf and I sent a few weeks ago, I have now drafted the bidding process to decide upon the location for next year’s Wikimedia Conference. This event will not only host the annual Chapters’/Affiliates’ conference, but also the WMF board, FDC and AffCom meetings and is meant to take place in April 2014 (tbc). https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference#Bidding_process_for_hosting_the_next_Wikimedia_Conference == LOCATION COMMITTEE == I would like to see a small location committee (3 representatives of affiliates, 1 AffCom and 1 WMF) to decide about the hosting chapter. Asaf and Bence already agreed upon joining the committee, and it would be nice to see someone from WMIT there, as they have the freshest experience. So if you have severe experience with conference organisation, please consider joining the committee now! == WANNA HOST WMCON 2014? == All chapters who are interested in organising the conference in 2014 are invited to place a short bid on Meta. The bids should be made until 30 September, a decision should be available before 15 October. The winning organisation will be responsible for all the logistics, as in: venue, catering, travel and visa arrangements, accommodation, technical equipment, social events, communication with and support for the participants, coordination with the programme committee and the facilitators. I hope that if we can take the logistics and location for granted, this will help us focus on the content and sustainability of the event. I have written more about the programme part on Meta. Thanks to Asaf and Bence for giving their valuable input to the set-up of this process. Since WMDE has kind of a traditional interest in having a good conference, I am happy to take a leading role in organising this process. Any help is highly appreciated! I am looking forward to an exciting Wikimedia Conference 2014. \o/ Nicole -- Nicole Ebber International Affairs Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49 30 219158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
